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babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 17:06:52
September 07 2011 17:05 GMT
#3301
Picks for tomorrow are Taeja and MKP. I initially thought that JYP might make it, but I dunno ...

Incidentally, thought I should mention that viOlet and Nalza have left MVP (according to Milkis).

EDIT: It seems I was mistaken re: sC. He's still listed as being in Code A. (Yay!) I hope his recovery's going well.
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 17:08:43
September 07 2011 17:06 GMT
#3302
On September 08 2011 02:01 CScythe wrote:
I have no sympathy for MC. Like most P his strats have stagnated. No need to cry though, 1.4 is just around the corner.

Yeah that 1 immortal range will help P innovate so much. I can see the light now...maybe we'll have 6 protoss in code S next season!!! Anyway it's just a matter of time before there will be 2 or 3 protoss in code s. Sad really. You're right MC's strats have stagnated, he should use the switch to terran strategy.
Sandro
Profile Joined April 2011
897 Posts
September 07 2011 17:08 GMT
#3303
On September 08 2011 02:04 nvs. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 02:03 Sandro wrote:
On September 08 2011 01:59 Giriath wrote:
Who do you think will advance in tomorrow's Up & Down matches?

I'm thinking MKP and Taeja.

Hell yeah I can't wait for 20 Terrans in Code S.


I remember when I used to be so excited about GSL... T.T

Same here, I can't even bring myself to watch VoDs or stay up for GSL anymore. I wonder what the Koreans think of this Terran dominance.
Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
September 07 2011 17:09 GMT
#3304
On September 08 2011 02:05 babylon wrote:
Picks for tomorrow are Taeja and MKP. I initially thought that JYP might make it, but I dunno


JYP? But he's Protoss.
Education should be our seniors guiding us to be "who" we want to be, not "what" we want to be.
proot
Profile Joined June 2004
United States126 Posts
September 07 2011 17:09 GMT
#3305
On September 08 2011 01:43 tuho12345 wrote:
MC would have become the best player in the world forever if he switched to other races and not Protoss lol. Too bad he opened SG in every single PvZ and I don't understand it. 1 good EMP = gg, 10 good storms after that didn't change a thing.

Won't buy next season ticket though.

People like you crack me up. You can't see that MC has not been playing well recently. You can't see that MC did not play well today. The worst part of your mentality is, you're so convinced protoss is a shitty race that you can't factor in the skills of other players when they win.

And sorry, MC wouldn't have won a championship as terran. He won his championship off of 4 gate and timing attacks that were very unknown at the time. Once players figured him out, he started losing quite a bit. Sure, he'd be good, but the best? The guy barely cut it as a progamer in BW. Don't get me wrong, he's talented, but obviously way less talented than players like mvp, losira, and puzzle.
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QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 17:10:35
September 07 2011 17:10 GMT
#3306
On September 08 2011 02:06 Olinim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 02:01 CScythe wrote:
I have no sympathy for MC. Like most P his strats have stagnated. No need to cry though, 1.4 is just around the corner.

Yeah that 1 immortal range will help P innovate so much. I can see the light now...maybe we'll have 6 protoss in code S next season!!! Anyway it's just a matter of time before there will be 2 or 3 protoss in code s. Sad really.

Don't be so pessimistic. Perhaps the immortal range won't be as much of a buff as it will be a door to some interesting new strategies. Obviously, this is pure speculation, but I think Blizzard wants to encourage Protoss to incorporate more Immortal and Warp Prism play and hopefully introduce more strategies. (Ex: infestor pre-patch usage, post-patch usage) They probably think they know something that Protoss players don't.
"Trash Micro but Win. Its Marin." - Min Chul
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
September 07 2011 17:12 GMT
#3307
On September 08 2011 02:08 Sandro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 02:04 nvs. wrote:
On September 08 2011 02:03 Sandro wrote:
On September 08 2011 01:59 Giriath wrote:
Who do you think will advance in tomorrow's Up & Down matches?

I'm thinking MKP and Taeja.

Hell yeah I can't wait for 20 Terrans in Code S.


I remember when I used to be so excited about GSL... T.T

Same here, I can't even bring myself to watch VoDs or stay up for GSL anymore. I wonder what the Koreans think of this Terran dominance.


Indeed, I remember when I used to stay up to watch key games or watch VODs ASAP when I woke up. I can't even bring myself to go to GOM.TV anymore except to watch those awesome Yellow shows.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
September 07 2011 17:12 GMT
#3308
On September 08 2011 02:09 Giriath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 02:05 babylon wrote:
Picks for tomorrow are Taeja and MKP. I initially thought that JYP might make it, but I dunno


JYP? But he's Protoss.

MKP's inability to play BO1s in the GSL might be an unexpected boon to Code S.
Bonhead
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia9 Posts
September 07 2011 17:13 GMT
#3309
wah wah lets play pew pew
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
September 07 2011 17:14 GMT
#3310
On September 08 2011 02:09 proot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 01:43 tuho12345 wrote:
MC would have become the best player in the world forever if he switched to other races and not Protoss lol. Too bad he opened SG in every single PvZ and I don't understand it. 1 good EMP = gg, 10 good storms after that didn't change a thing.

Won't buy next season ticket though.

People like you crack me up. You can't see that MC has not been playing well recently. You can't see that MC did not play well today. The worst part of your mentality is, you're so convinced protoss is a shitty race that you can't factor in the skills of other players when they win.

And sorry, MC wouldn't have won a championship as terran. He won his championship off of 4 gate and timing attacks that were very unknown at the time. Once players figured him out, he started losing quite a bit. Sure, he'd be good, but the best? The guy barely cut it as a progamer in BW. Don't get me wrong, he's talented, but obviously way less talented than players like mvp, losira, and puzzle.

Less talented than puzzle and losira who have only won code a? get the hell out. Seriously what has puzzle done? MC is the only person who innovated protoss at all. The only protoss to win GSL. MC IS protoss.
QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
September 07 2011 17:20 GMT
#3311
On September 08 2011 02:09 proot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 01:43 tuho12345 wrote:
MC would have become the best player in the world forever if he switched to other races and not Protoss lol. Too bad he opened SG in every single PvZ and I don't understand it. 1 good EMP = gg, 10 good storms after that didn't change a thing.

Won't buy next season ticket though.

People like you crack me up. You can't see that MC has not been playing well recently. You can't see that MC did not play well today. The worst part of your mentality is, you're so convinced protoss is a shitty race that you can't factor in the skills of other players when they win.

And sorry, MC wouldn't have won a championship as terran. He won his championship off of 4 gate and timing attacks that were very unknown at the time. Once players figured him out, he started losing quite a bit. Sure, he'd be good, but the best? The guy barely cut it as a progamer in BW. Don't get me wrong, he's talented, but obviously way less talented than players like mvp, losira, and puzzle.


Lol. Obviously way less talented? You also mention MC being unable to break through in Broodwar. You understand that Nestea was a designated 2v2 player in BW? You understand that Puzzle was the #1 pick in the draft and was considered a huge disappointment? Did Losira make waves in BW? Did Bomber?

The vast majority of players in SC2 are players that could not or did not have the opportunity to shine in BW. You are foolish to make such a statement. Absolutely pathetic.
"Trash Micro but Win. Its Marin." - Min Chul
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
September 07 2011 17:20 GMT
#3312
MC's build against Losira was very strange to be honest.
asdfTT123
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States989 Posts
September 07 2011 17:24 GMT
#3313
HAHAHAHAH MC IN CODE A SOON TO BE CODE B I HOPE

User was temp banned for this post.
n.Die_Jaedong <3
RDaneelOlivaw
Profile Joined April 2011
Vatican City State733 Posts
September 07 2011 17:25 GMT
#3314
On September 07 2011 23:04 Kar98 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 23:01 sleepingdog wrote:
On September 07 2011 22:57 DaRKMaTT3r wrote:
On September 07 2011 22:53 oogieogie wrote:
On September 07 2011 22:51 Sated wrote:
On September 07 2011 22:50 Demonace34 wrote:
On September 07 2011 22:48 Ferehx wrote:
On September 07 2011 22:46 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Check doesn't make Code S because his ZvZ is just not as good as Losiras



or just because ZvT is not a balanced matchup.


WOAH WOAH, does Nyovne have to slap someone down after that many good games?

ZvT is ~50% win-rate for this GSL season.

inbe4 protoss


Crying aside i think the big loser of all this massive terran domination everywhere is actually GOM. They do such a great job with GSL but they have the toughest luck ever. All their finals is usually one sided and each season they are more likely to be showing TvT matches than any other and i have to think that shake a bit their viewership. =(


Very true. The poor TL-mods who probably secretly wish for an all-out balanced game the most, so they can stop mass-banning people aside....I agree that the officials at GOM will definitely also get annoyed by the overrepresentation of one race, that makes for a worse viewer-experience. I mean, even many terran players around here would agree that watching only TvT can get really exhausting.
I'm P and watching too many PvPs in a row drives me crazy.

This game could be chess but TL LR threads would still winge about imbalance because the white pieces are too shiny

Technically speaking white is OP lol :p
murtas
Profile Joined December 2010
Portugal249 Posts
September 07 2011 17:25 GMT
#3315
I don't know all the fuss about MC in code A... MVP fell down to code A, MKP is still in code A... both the cream of the top in Korea... and it isn't about balance either, its about slump, thats all.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 17:31:09
September 07 2011 17:29 GMT
#3316
On September 08 2011 02:24 asdfTT123 wrote:
HAHAHAHAH MC IN CODE A SOON TO BE CODE B I HOPE


And you've been a member since 2009. I really hope you get a warning for this.
Regardless of what you think, MC is good enough to be in Code S.
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
September 07 2011 17:31 GMT
#3317
On September 08 2011 02:24 asdfTT123 wrote:
HAHAHAHAH MC IN CODE A SOON TO BE CODE B I HOPE


wtf.... how have you had 900 posts without being banned.
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
September 07 2011 17:31 GMT
#3318
On September 08 2011 02:29 darkness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 02:24 asdfTT123 wrote:
HAHAHAHAH MC IN CODE A SOON TO BE CODE B I HOPE


And you've been a member since 2009. I really hope you get a warning for this.
Regardless of what you think, MC is good enough to be in Code S.

He just mad because he's a Select fan and we all know how MC vs Select always turns out.
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2112 Posts
September 07 2011 17:32 GMT
#3319
On September 08 2011 02:20 sitromit wrote:
MC's build against Losira was very strange to be honest.

Yeh, I couldn't really figure that one out. It seemed more like some plat level game I play in terms of game progress. Some poking around with Stargate, one player gets totally outmacroed and later stomped down in the first bigger engagement.
Strausticles
Profile Joined April 2011
United States113 Posts
September 07 2011 17:33 GMT
#3320
Sad to see the Protoss President going down to Code A, but I'm not so foolish to not see it isn't reflected in his gameplay. Whether it was cheesy play or not MC used to dictate the games, the question was what can the opponent possibly do to beat MC not what builds will each play be doing. I hope this fall/slump can boost his motivation and he can get some of his swagger back and get back up to Code S.
"Don't forget one of the best counters in Starcraft, is to just go kill your opponent!" - Day[9]
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