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Xelnas
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada65 Posts
September 07 2011 18:24 GMT
#541
my prediction for the final player is based on the fact that there is 4 EU's and 4 NA's, it is also based on that the previous tornements had 3 p 3 z 2 t or 2 p 3 z 3 t so this one will most likly have 3 p 2 z 3 t making the final player a protoss and a NA protoss at that. also taking into account recent numbers, popularty and the trends of the tornement
It will be either
kiwikaki
chuncher
minigun
or TT1 those are the best picks i can think of.
Random versus x, best strat in bronze
cheggelund
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway131 Posts
September 07 2011 18:32 GMT
#542
I would bet on Kiwikaki as well.

Wouldn't mind White-Ra or DeMuslim either of course
Elasticity
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
3420 Posts
September 07 2011 18:35 GMT
#543
I request White-Ra. The Legend. He is a must-have.
Djen
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania1 Post
September 07 2011 18:35 GMT
#544
Still hoping for NightEnD.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
September 07 2011 18:54 GMT
#545
Now, the quintessential question is this:

Is bearded Riker/Strelok better than non-bearded Riker/Strelok? Experience tells me yes, though I could be mistaken.

Anyways, great lineup so far. Strelok will definitely add a lot to this tournament, especially considering how strong a player he is.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
SillyPrincess
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada115 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 21:03:39
September 07 2011 19:39 GMT
#546
Excited! I can't wait to see the brackets and games. :D
I also love how the games are cast live, not replays.
For the swarm. ♥
Titorelli
Profile Joined March 2011
2492 Posts
September 07 2011 19:52 GMT
#547
Oh yeah Ukraine fighting!
"Everybody poops.... after Tasteless kills them" Artosis
Atrimex
Profile Joined July 2011
193 Posts
September 07 2011 21:06 GMT
#548
I would call that a traditional lineup, a lot of past glory surrounds most of this players. Maybe some fresh air for the last invite would be nice, also White-Ra would fit perfectly in this setting.
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
September 07 2011 21:10 GMT
#549
Strelok vs Dimaga... Shit just got real.
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
September 07 2011 21:17 GMT
#550
Interesting lineup. A lot of fan favourites (TLO, Tyler, Destiny), whom I'm expecting to fall first round if they don't face each other.
Influ
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany780 Posts
September 07 2011 21:35 GMT
#551
I don't like the fan favourites invites, they get allready enough exposure. It's kinda strange to draw the " ESPORTS is awesome and it is a real sports" card and on the other hand entertainment is somewhere close to the importance as performance?
Broodwurst
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1586 Posts
September 07 2011 22:03 GMT
#552
On September 08 2011 06:35 Influ wrote:
I don't like the fan favourites invites, they get allready enough exposure. It's kinda strange to draw the " ESPORTS is awesome and it is a real sports" card and on the other hand entertainment is somewhere close to the importance as performance?


Entertainment is the reason people watch sports in the first place?
Fanboys = (ウ╹◡╹)ウ /// I like smiley faces
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
September 07 2011 22:09 GMT
#553
On September 08 2011 06:35 Influ wrote:
I don't like the fan favourites invites, they get allready enough exposure. It's kinda strange to draw the " ESPORTS is awesome and it is a real sports" card and on the other hand entertainment is somewhere close to the importance as performance?


It's simple:
If players play perfectly but boring, noone watches. If they are creative and fun, people will watch. It's harder to play creative and fun, so players will make mistakes and not play perfectly.
Watching people bring in more money that those that don't watch, so it's better to make it fun - for the tournaments sake just as much as for the players'.

Not much difference to real sports, only few people root for the "best" team/player, most root for a team they like for whatever reason (same city/country, hot chearleader or whatever else).
Creativity and fun games make people like the players (why do you think are so many people watching Destiny?) and brings in the most important part of any tournament: Viewers.


Also: All of these players are really, really good and in a best-of-100 they would probably beat all of you 51:0, so stop complaining.
Schenkee
Profile Joined October 2010
Scotland322 Posts
September 07 2011 22:15 GMT
#554
hmm 4 europeans 3 americans, so next player should be from the americas, I wonder. Also wish people would just stfu and stop whining, if you don't like the players piss of and don't watch.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
September 07 2011 22:54 GMT
#555
On September 08 2011 06:35 Influ wrote:
I don't like the fan favourites invites, they get allready enough exposure. It's kinda strange to draw the " ESPORTS is awesome and it is a real sports" card and on the other hand entertainment is somewhere close to the importance as performance?


In my tournament, entertainment is far more important than performance.

That's the way it will stay. There are plenty other tournaments that can be srsbzns.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
September 07 2011 22:58 GMT
#556
On September 08 2011 07:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 06:35 Influ wrote:
I don't like the fan favourites invites, they get allready enough exposure. It's kinda strange to draw the " ESPORTS is awesome and it is a real sports" card and on the other hand entertainment is somewhere close to the importance as performance?


In my tournament, entertainment is far more important than performance.

That's the way it will stay. There are plenty other tournaments that can be srsbzns.


It's unbelievable, but in the last couple months you managed to make me a huge fan of yours and your endeavors.
Keep it up!
wat
Influ
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany780 Posts
September 07 2011 23:17 GMT
#557
On September 08 2011 07:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 06:35 Influ wrote:
I don't like the fan favourites invites, they get allready enough exposure. It's kinda strange to draw the " ESPORTS is awesome and it is a real sports" card and on the other hand entertainment is somewhere close to the importance as performance?


In my tournament, entertainment is far more important than performance.

That's the way it will stay. There are plenty other tournaments that can be srsbzns.


Well, I was hugely entertained in SCI2 because (not only) there were really skilled players and players that I have been really curious about like dde or bling. I was wondering about the gameplay and not about what an amazing story it would be if one one player would beat another. It seems like a lot of people like this stuff and possible drama on the forums is apparently really important.
I don't, people are different and that's ok, but I think it should be expressed that not everybody loves it even if I'm in the minority.
forgottendreams
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1771 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 23:32:09
September 07 2011 23:27 GMT
#558
On September 08 2011 08:17 Influ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 07:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On September 08 2011 06:35 Influ wrote:
I don't like the fan favourites invites, they get allready enough exposure. It's kinda strange to draw the " ESPORTS is awesome and it is a real sports" card and on the other hand entertainment is somewhere close to the importance as performance?


In my tournament, entertainment is far more important than performance.

That's the way it will stay. There are plenty other tournaments that can be srsbzns.


Well, I was hugely entertained in SCI2 because (not only) there were really skilled players and players that I have been really curious about like dde or bling. I was wondering about the gameplay and not about what an amazing story it would be if one one player would beat another. It seems like a lot of people like this stuff and possible drama on the forums is apparently really important.
I don't, people are different and that's ok, but I think it should be expressed that not everybody loves it even if I'm in the minority.


Populists serve a role to bring in more casual fans or outsiders into their fray to help them learn about something all while being entertained. The more hardcore tournies serve a role to help refine higher build orders and subtle nuances only the more experienced player or observer will notice. For the most hardcore people in any competitive scene, performance does = entertainment, but it will look boring to the casual fan.

These types of tournies tend to draw higher amounts of viewers and money but it is what it is, there is a net positive to the scene IMO because newer or more casual people will be drawn in.
WolfgangKies
Profile Joined June 2011
25 Posts
September 08 2011 00:20 GMT
#559
I actually don't see any problems whatsoever regarding the so called "fan-favourite" invitees and I honestly can't understand why anyone would because

a) they sure enough all are very good and skilled players and will undoubtedly deliver high quality SC II entertainment (for the casual viewer as well as the "hardcore" fan)

b) their fan favourite status will hopefully attract a ton of viewers which will contribute directly to big ass prize pools for future SCIs and therefore

c) will enable TB to organize an all Korean SCI (I'm pretty sure something like that is already in the making...) which will then satisfy all the people who demand more skill.

So, to sum up: stop whining and complaining about the skill level of the invitees (which imo is pretty damn high), just have fun watching the tournament (with disabled adblockers) and by doing that you will directly contribute to a future invitational which will fullfill all your desires for korean skill

p.s.: thanks TB and Crew for another awesome tournament
All that it takes for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing
Larryx
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland148 Posts
September 08 2011 08:39 GMT
#560
i hope last one is stephano/nerchio/mana
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