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Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
August 31 2011 18:37 GMT
#221
Division 3 looks very close to me. Jinro, Sjow, Morrow, Socke, Idra and Kiwikaki are all quite evenly matched. Among these players, everyone can beat the others on any given day. I have no idea how strong Hwangsin is. Softball is probably a level below the rest. Anyway, Division 3 is by far the most exciting for me.
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
August 31 2011 18:42 GMT
#222
On September 01 2011 03:19 Bobster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 01:50 Qaatar wrote:
On September 01 2011 00:33 Bobster wrote:
Not many teamkills, a healthy balance between Asia/NA/Europe in every division, healthy racial balance... no group of death like they did in season 1.

Looking pretty good from here.


It's not really balanced if you look at it regionally. Seven Asians (not counting Moonan/Select, but counting Moonglade) amongst 40 players is certainly not a good ratio.

I'd say that it's relatively balanced nationally, but in terms of continents, Europe is quite overrepresented (almost half of the players).

I don't really give a shit either way, but I wouldn't call it a "healthy balance."

No, I'd say that's a pretty healthy balance considering the situation they're in. A solid EU basis, some more NA, a handful of Koreans sprinkled in and three SEA/Asia players to round it all off.

Looks really good to me.


I guess we have a different understanding of what "healthy balance" means. I'm just disappointed that the Chinese players aren't being represented here (quite a few of whom are easily on the level of top Euros) - whether it's due to not applying, not being accepted, or through any other reason.
Ultramus
Profile Joined June 2010
United States319 Posts
August 31 2011 18:58 GMT
#223
Really glad to see Inka in there, dude has beasted his way through open bracket in MLG falling to Tyler both times IIRC. But seriously a sick good NA protoss.
Baking is like science for hungry people
Gojira621
Profile Joined October 2010
United States374 Posts
September 01 2011 00:16 GMT
#224
NASL is so ridiculously awesome to me. It's more and more like a regular sport with your regular season and then your playoffs and champion. Games actually matter quite a damn bit because the higher you place in your division the better your chances of making the main bracket where you're guaranteed at least some money. As soon as I can afford to ill be getting an HD pass and enjoying it every time i watch just like last season.

p.s. production got better throughout the last season so I'm hoping for better and better!
www.twitch.tv/Gojira621
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
September 01 2011 01:36 GMT
#225
Am I the only one who'd rather see 8 groups of 5 than 5 groups of 8?
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
September 01 2011 01:39 GMT
#226
On September 01 2011 10:36 Bobster wrote:
Am I the only one who'd rather see 8 groups of 5 than 5 groups of 8?


A shame there aren't 8 days of the week.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Soulish
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1403 Posts
September 01 2011 01:48 GMT
#227
On September 01 2011 02:28 red4ce wrote:
I thought this was the NASL. Why are there only 13 players from the USA or Canada?

=P

because lots of NA players are terrible.
me all in, he drone drone drone, me win
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
September 01 2011 01:50 GMT
#228
On September 01 2011 10:48 Soulish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 02:28 red4ce wrote:
I thought this was the NASL. Why are there only 13 players from the USA or Canada?

=P

because lots of NA players are terrible.

It's hosted in NA...I can't stand people who make fun of that. If not for the Korean dropouts, there'd be barely any NA players. Does it really matter? Is the US Open mainly players from the US? No, there's top players from everywhere and that's how it should be. This isn't the NAOSL; North American Only Star League, red4ce's comment that is repeatedly posted by multiple people is endlessly pointless and frustrating.

Is Husky confirmed to be casting the whole season?
Corrik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1416 Posts
September 01 2011 02:52 GMT
#229
I think people are confusing the strongest division with the most balanced division.

Group 3 is the most balanced but surely not the strongest. I feel you could pick 3 or 4 players from Group 1 who could easily take Group 3. I don't think any other than Idra could realistically take Group 1.
Soulish
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1403 Posts
September 01 2011 04:16 GMT
#230
On September 01 2011 10:50 Ruscour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 10:48 Soulish wrote:
On September 01 2011 02:28 red4ce wrote:
I thought this was the NASL. Why are there only 13 players from the USA or Canada?

=P

because lots of NA players are terrible.

It's hosted in NA...I can't stand people who make fun of that. If not for the Korean dropouts, there'd be barely any NA players. Does it really matter? Is the US Open mainly players from the US? No, there's top players from everywhere and that's how it should be. This isn't the NAOSL; North American Only Star League, red4ce's comment that is repeatedly posted by multiple people is endlessly pointless and frustrating.

Is Husky confirmed to be casting the whole season?

I'm not making fun of it, merely stating the truth (if you noticed, I live in canada). If NA players were better more of them would be in the ipl.
me all in, he drone drone drone, me win
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
September 01 2011 04:26 GMT
#231
On September 01 2011 10:50 Ruscour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 10:48 Soulish wrote:
On September 01 2011 02:28 red4ce wrote:
I thought this was the NASL. Why are there only 13 players from the USA or Canada?

=P

because lots of NA players are terrible.

It's hosted in NA...I can't stand people who make fun of that. If not for the Korean dropouts, there'd be barely any NA players. Does it really matter? Is the US Open mainly players from the US? No, there's top players from everywhere and that's how it should be. This isn't the NAOSL; North American Only Star League, red4ce's comment that is repeatedly posted by multiple people is endlessly pointless and frustrating.

Is Husky confirmed to be casting the whole season?


Hint: The =P at the end of my post is meant to indicate sarcasm. I have the exact same sentiments as you, which is why I posted it to point out the hypocrisy of people who claim to be interested in the development of NA e-sports when really all they wanted was no Koreans.
critique
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States135 Posts
September 01 2011 07:22 GMT
#232
On September 01 2011 09:16 Gojira621 wrote:
NASL is so ridiculously awesome to me. It's more and more like a regular sport with your regular season and then your playoffs and champion. Games actually matter quite a damn bit because the higher you place in your division the better your chances of making the main bracket where you're guaranteed at least some money. As soon as I can afford to ill be getting an HD pass and enjoying it every time i watch just like last season.

p.s. production got better throughout the last season so I'm hoping for better and better!


Completely agree with this. It's great to see an esports tournament mimic what works for regular sports. GSL is great and all, but its awfully easy to miss a week and be totally left behind. NASL's format creates for a lot of great, meaningful games without making one bo3 make or break everything.
iamlafore
Profile Joined July 2011
Japan40 Posts
September 01 2011 08:31 GMT
#233
On August 30 2011 06:57 Kieofire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2011 06:53 Markwerf wrote:
Ugh all this hype creation constantly it's just annoying.
Do people still really care about NASL? Most of the koreans not competing made this a completely uninteresting tournament. Couple that with the poor production and format (games aren't interesting enough as they hardly matter) and this is just the worst competition there is.
NASL is just crap.


Yes people actually care about the NASL, sorry but everything doesn't revolve around the Koreans, why don't you just move to South Korea instead of QQing on the forums? Also you must not of watched the show matches the production was way better, but haters gonna hate sadly.



SC2 kinda does revolve around Korea. When one country wins just about any tournament they attend you can see the problem with them not attending. I wont watch Bronze leaguers slugging it out for $100 and this is just a less extreme version of that feeling, *shrug*.
Amai.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-01 08:36:02
September 01 2011 08:34 GMT
#234
Looks good to me. Two more weeks.
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
September 01 2011 08:35 GMT
#235
YEEEESSS!! Demuslim got in

seems liek the groups were picked though, you can tell how their players are split accross the 5 groups pretty much in perfect sync without too many of one race in one and a lot of another in another, could be good that at elast we wont have a group of mirror matchups!!!

Division1 probably the hardest to pick a certain top 2 to say, Followed by Division 2.

Division 5 looks the easier of the 5 on paaper cant see Puma having any troubles at all.
Live and Let Die!
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10801 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-01 08:38:20
September 01 2011 08:36 GMT
#236
SC2 does revolve around the big tournaments.
Korea got the GSL/Gom-Stuff.
All others are somewhere else.

If Koreans decied to not fly around it's their fault. The games of foreigners are more than entertaining enough to watch them.
Your missing out, not the NASL.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-01 09:10:50
September 01 2011 09:05 GMT
#237
As for the "why would you watch NASL" question:

First, big names in the foreigner's scene - NASL has most of them.

Second, the competition isn't that bad. With players like HuK, Sen, Puma, and most of the top EU pros, this is by no means a low-skill/minor leagues tournament.

Third, a good spread of regions means that we get to see diverse play styles duking it out, along with potential regional rivalries. We don't have all the regions, but with Taiwan in the fray it's more than what most international tournaments have.

Finally, I do want to see what NASL has fixed since last season, as that was their first, experimental run. They should have a more experienced setup this time around.
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-01 09:16:11
September 01 2011 09:12 GMT
#238
so i count 6 korean flags.
lets bet on top 6 ;-)

On September 01 2011 17:31 iamlafore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2011 06:57 Kieofire wrote:
On August 30 2011 06:53 Markwerf wrote:
Ugh all this hype creation constantly it's just annoying.
Do people still really care about NASL? Most of the koreans not competing made this a completely uninteresting tournament. Couple that with the poor production and format (games aren't interesting enough as they hardly matter) and this is just the worst competition there is.
NASL is just crap.


Yes people actually care about the NASL, sorry but everything doesn't revolve around the Koreans, why don't you just move to South Korea instead of QQing on the forums? Also you must not of watched the show matches the production was way better, but haters gonna hate sadly.



SC2 kinda does revolve around Korea. When one country wins just about any tournament they attend you can see the problem with them not attending. I wont watch Bronze leaguers slugging it out for $100 and this is just a less extreme version of that feeling, *shrug*.

you have to admit that watching the nasl group competition just aint interesting, since you cant win anything by winning your group.
btw, can koreans still join the open tournament?
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
September 01 2011 09:32 GMT
#239
I was looking at Axslav's match history to see the result vs Fenix in the IEM qualifier and I noticed he also played some NASL matches (vs Huk/Rain).

Why are the matches being played 2-3 weeks in advance? (Last season they were played 2 days in advance).
Also why use the public accounts for the players? Anyone can see if the result was 2-1 or 2-0.
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
September 01 2011 09:43 GMT
#240
On September 01 2011 18:32 cyclone25 wrote:
I was looking at Axslav's match history to see the result vs Fenix in the IEM qualifier and I noticed he also played some NASL matches (vs Huk/Rain).

Why are the matches being played 2-3 weeks in advance? (Last season they were played 2 days in advance).
Also why use the public accounts for the players? Anyone can see if the result was 2-1 or 2-0.


can't it just be regular c.g ?
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
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