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double620
Profile Joined July 2011
China804 Posts
August 21 2011 00:52 GMT
#101
On August 21 2011 09:46 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 09:41 Yuriegh wrote:
On August 21 2011 08:24 wei2coolman wrote:
Wow, reading all this disparaging remarks about MC >.>

Please show some respect, especially to the two time GSL champion. He's still easily one of the best still in the scene. Yes, he did recently lose dreamhack and hsc3, but they were all to a volatile matchup of PvP.


and go to up-down matches


Nestea has fallen to the Up/Downs before, and not only has MVP done that, he fell all the way to Code A. So what? -_-;;


The reason he needs to be in up and down is he picked mvp. If nestea does so, he would be in the up and down now no doubt.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
August 21 2011 00:57 GMT
#102
On August 21 2011 09:52 double620 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 09:46 HolyArrow wrote:
On August 21 2011 09:41 Yuriegh wrote:
On August 21 2011 08:24 wei2coolman wrote:
Wow, reading all this disparaging remarks about MC >.>

Please show some respect, especially to the two time GSL champion. He's still easily one of the best still in the scene. Yes, he did recently lose dreamhack and hsc3, but they were all to a volatile matchup of PvP.


and go to up-down matches


Nestea has fallen to the Up/Downs before, and not only has MVP done that, he fell all the way to Code A. So what? -_-;;


The reason he needs to be in up and down is he picked mvp. If nestea does so, he would be in the up and down now no doubt.


Yeah MC messed up picking MVP. It's a hard lesson he had to learn just like SCfou did who is now toiling in code a because of his bravado as well. Go for the easy pick to secure your Code S is what players should do. With a bo1 situation, it's not worth the risk.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
August 21 2011 01:02 GMT
#103
On August 21 2011 09:57 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 09:52 double620 wrote:
On August 21 2011 09:46 HolyArrow wrote:
On August 21 2011 09:41 Yuriegh wrote:
On August 21 2011 08:24 wei2coolman wrote:
Wow, reading all this disparaging remarks about MC >.>

Please show some respect, especially to the two time GSL champion. He's still easily one of the best still in the scene. Yes, he did recently lose dreamhack and hsc3, but they were all to a volatile matchup of PvP.


and go to up-down matches


Nestea has fallen to the Up/Downs before, and not only has MVP done that, he fell all the way to Code A. So what? -_-;;


The reason he needs to be in up and down is he picked mvp. If nestea does so, he would be in the up and down now no doubt.


Yeah MC messed up picking MVP. It's a hard lesson he had to learn just like SCfou did who is now toiling in code a because of his bravado as well. Go for the easy pick to secure your Code S is what players should do. With a bo1 situation, it's not worth the risk.

MC picked MVP because he wanted to maximise his chances of getting top 2 in rank points for GSL so as to get invited to BlizzCon. The way it worked, he maximised the chances of MVP and NesTea playing their toughest opponents - himself and each other - early on, giving him more opportunity to overtake in rank points.

Of course, that's not how it worked out, but the strategy was intelligent.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 01:12:50
August 21 2011 01:07 GMT
#104
Why can't they do things according to the schedule T_T.

Anyway, I think it'll be an easy win for MC. 3-1.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
August 21 2011 01:09 GMT
#105
On August 21 2011 10:02 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 09:57 Canucklehead wrote:
On August 21 2011 09:52 double620 wrote:
On August 21 2011 09:46 HolyArrow wrote:
On August 21 2011 09:41 Yuriegh wrote:
On August 21 2011 08:24 wei2coolman wrote:
Wow, reading all this disparaging remarks about MC >.>

Please show some respect, especially to the two time GSL champion. He's still easily one of the best still in the scene. Yes, he did recently lose dreamhack and hsc3, but they were all to a volatile matchup of PvP.


and go to up-down matches


Nestea has fallen to the Up/Downs before, and not only has MVP done that, he fell all the way to Code A. So what? -_-;;


The reason he needs to be in up and down is he picked mvp. If nestea does so, he would be in the up and down now no doubt.


Yeah MC messed up picking MVP. It's a hard lesson he had to learn just like SCfou did who is now toiling in code a because of his bravado as well. Go for the easy pick to secure your Code S is what players should do. With a bo1 situation, it's not worth the risk.

MC picked MVP because he wanted to maximise his chances of getting top 2 in rank points for GSL so as to get invited to BlizzCon. The way it worked, he maximised the chances of MVP and NesTea playing their toughest opponents - himself and each other - early on, giving him more opportunity to overtake in rank points.

Of course, that's not how it worked out, but the strategy was intelligent.


Heh yeah I know why he did it, but it wasn't worth the risk. He's called suicide toss for a reason! Hopefully MC beats puma though! Go MC go!
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Azuroz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1630 Posts
August 21 2011 01:12 GMT
#106
puma lost to mana in the groups, i think mc will take it quite easily, 3-1 mc.
Team NSHoseo <3
FinBenton
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland870 Posts
August 21 2011 01:15 GMT
#107
I quess its easy win for puma 3-1.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
August 21 2011 01:34 GMT
#108
How can you vote on the MVP thing? I can't find anything to click on!
And I hope MC wins this! Gogo MC!
Jaedong4thOSL
Profile Joined August 2011
United States487 Posts
August 21 2011 01:38 GMT
#109
On August 21 2011 10:02 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 09:57 Canucklehead wrote:
On August 21 2011 09:52 double620 wrote:
On August 21 2011 09:46 HolyArrow wrote:
On August 21 2011 09:41 Yuriegh wrote:
On August 21 2011 08:24 wei2coolman wrote:
Wow, reading all this disparaging remarks about MC >.>

Please show some respect, especially to the two time GSL champion. He's still easily one of the best still in the scene. Yes, he did recently lose dreamhack and hsc3, but they were all to a volatile matchup of PvP.


and go to up-down matches


Nestea has fallen to the Up/Downs before, and not only has MVP done that, he fell all the way to Code A. So what? -_-;;


The reason he needs to be in up and down is he picked mvp. If nestea does so, he would be in the up and down now no doubt.


Yeah MC messed up picking MVP. It's a hard lesson he had to learn just like SCfou did who is now toiling in code a because of his bravado as well. Go for the easy pick to secure your Code S is what players should do. With a bo1 situation, it's not worth the risk.

MC picked MVP because he wanted to maximise his chances of getting top 2 in rank points for GSL so as to get invited to BlizzCon. The way it worked, he maximised the chances of MVP and NesTea playing their toughest opponents - himself and each other - early on, giving him more opportunity to overtake in rank points.

Of course, that's not how it worked out, but the strategy was intelligent.


Who cares about the stupid blizzcon. Of course, he was thinking about GSL, he definitely thought he can beat MVP, he is just too confident.
OsC
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada542 Posts
August 21 2011 01:39 GMT
#110
what time does this start for est?
Jaedong4thOSL
Profile Joined August 2011
United States487 Posts
August 21 2011 01:41 GMT
#111
On August 21 2011 10:39 OsC wrote:
what time does this start for est?


Should be 8:40AM est for third place match, 10:30 for final.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
August 21 2011 01:43 GMT
#112
Puma is in MCs head after the NASL finals, he got this easy.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
August 21 2011 01:44 GMT
#113
On August 21 2011 10:02 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 09:57 Canucklehead wrote:
On August 21 2011 09:52 double620 wrote:
On August 21 2011 09:46 HolyArrow wrote:
On August 21 2011 09:41 Yuriegh wrote:
On August 21 2011 08:24 wei2coolman wrote:
Wow, reading all this disparaging remarks about MC >.>

Please show some respect, especially to the two time GSL champion. He's still easily one of the best still in the scene. Yes, he did recently lose dreamhack and hsc3, but they were all to a volatile matchup of PvP.


and go to up-down matches


Nestea has fallen to the Up/Downs before, and not only has MVP done that, he fell all the way to Code A. So what? -_-;;


The reason he needs to be in up and down is he picked mvp. If nestea does so, he would be in the up and down now no doubt.


Yeah MC messed up picking MVP. It's a hard lesson he had to learn just like SCfou did who is now toiling in code a because of his bravado as well. Go for the easy pick to secure your Code S is what players should do. With a bo1 situation, it's not worth the risk.

MC picked MVP because he wanted to maximise his chances of getting top 2 in rank points for GSL so as to get invited to BlizzCon. The way it worked, he maximised the chances of MVP and NesTea playing their toughest opponents - himself and each other - early on, giving him more opportunity to overtake in rank points.

Of course, that's not how it worked out, but the strategy was intelligent.


LOLs. SC had no bravado, he picked MVP specifically to make sure he didn't have to face him until the finals again. He just figured that he could beat everyone else picked in the group.
Gameplay > Personality
Jinivus
Profile Joined July 2011
747 Posts
August 21 2011 01:44 GMT
#114
On August 21 2011 10:43 Senx wrote:
Puma is in MCs head after the NASL finals, he got this easy.

Nah, MC 2-0ed puma in the KOTH and puma lost to mana and whitera as well. I actually think MC will win pretty easily.
Jinivus
Profile Joined July 2011
747 Posts
August 21 2011 01:46 GMT
#115
On August 21 2011 10:34 JustPassingBy wrote:
How can you vote on the MVP thing? I can't find anything to click on!
And I hope MC wins this! Gogo MC!

http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season6/cologne/mvp Vote for MC :DD
paradox_
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada270 Posts
August 21 2011 01:47 GMT
#116
On August 21 2011 10:02 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 09:57 Canucklehead wrote:
On August 21 2011 09:52 double620 wrote:
On August 21 2011 09:46 HolyArrow wrote:
On August 21 2011 09:41 Yuriegh wrote:
On August 21 2011 08:24 wei2coolman wrote:
Wow, reading all this disparaging remarks about MC >.>

Please show some respect, especially to the two time GSL champion. He's still easily one of the best still in the scene. Yes, he did recently lose dreamhack and hsc3, but they were all to a volatile matchup of PvP.


and go to up-down matches


Nestea has fallen to the Up/Downs before, and not only has MVP done that, he fell all the way to Code A. So what? -_-;;


The reason he needs to be in up and down is he picked mvp. If nestea does so, he would be in the up and down now no doubt.


Yeah MC messed up picking MVP. It's a hard lesson he had to learn just like SCfou did who is now toiling in code a because of his bravado as well. Go for the easy pick to secure your Code S is what players should do. With a bo1 situation, it's not worth the risk.

MC picked MVP because he wanted to maximise his chances of getting top 2 in rank points for GSL so as to get invited to BlizzCon. The way it worked, he maximised the chances of MVP and NesTea playing their toughest opponents - himself and each other - early on, giving him more opportunity to overtake in rank points.

Of course, that's not how it worked out, but the strategy was intelligent.


Agreed, it was high risk for a high reward. Unfortunately, plans don't always work out

I'm sure MC travelling also takes a toll on his practice schedule. Huk, MC all showing small signs of inconsistency which is usually a sign of lack of practice.
BryanSC
Profile Joined October 2010
United States455 Posts
August 21 2011 01:51 GMT
#117
I hope this starts on time and we don't have to suffer through 45 min - 1 hour of LoL.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
August 21 2011 01:54 GMT
#118
On August 21 2011 10:51 BryanSC wrote:
I hope this starts on time and we don't have to suffer through 45 min - 1 hour of LoL.

Watch Dota 2 while you wait, so you can see what it's like for 6 nerds to win a million dollars!
wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
August 21 2011 01:55 GMT
#119
On August 21 2011 10:44 Jinivus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 10:43 Senx wrote:
Puma is in MCs head after the NASL finals, he got this easy.

Nah, MC 2-0ed puma in the KOTH and puma lost to mana and whitera as well. I actually think MC will win pretty easily.


Well... people have been making the excuse for Puma that he's been sick and personally I don't know enough to comment, but if he does beat MC then I'd say the excuse is true.
Gameplay > Personality
double620
Profile Joined July 2011
China804 Posts
August 21 2011 02:03 GMT
#120
On August 21 2011 10:09 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 10:02 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On August 21 2011 09:57 Canucklehead wrote:
On August 21 2011 09:52 double620 wrote:
On August 21 2011 09:46 HolyArrow wrote:
On August 21 2011 09:41 Yuriegh wrote:
On August 21 2011 08:24 wei2coolman wrote:
Wow, reading all this disparaging remarks about MC >.>

Please show some respect, especially to the two time GSL champion. He's still easily one of the best still in the scene. Yes, he did recently lose dreamhack and hsc3, but they were all to a volatile matchup of PvP.


and go to up-down matches


Nestea has fallen to the Up/Downs before, and not only has MVP done that, he fell all the way to Code A. So what? -_-;;


The reason he needs to be in up and down is he picked mvp. If nestea does so, he would be in the up and down now no doubt.


Yeah MC messed up picking MVP. It's a hard lesson he had to learn just like SCfou did who is now toiling in code a because of his bravado as well. Go for the easy pick to secure your Code S is what players should do. With a bo1 situation, it's not worth the risk.

MC picked MVP because he wanted to maximise his chances of getting top 2 in rank points for GSL so as to get invited to BlizzCon. The way it worked, he maximised the chances of MVP and NesTea playing their toughest opponents - himself and each other - early on, giving him more opportunity to overtake in rank points.

Of course, that's not how it worked out, but the strategy was intelligent.


Heh yeah I know why he did it, but it wasn't worth the risk. He's called suicide toss for a reason! Hopefully MC beats puma though! Go MC go!



It is just like not worth the risk to kill the pylon but he is so confident on his skills and decisions and he just goes for it. And in fact, that is what makes his games look great.
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