EPT[IEM] Gamescom - Day 5 - Page 284
| Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments |
Please keep the following things out of this topic: -Caster/Stream/player bashing; -Imbalance/race whine; -LoL vs the world arguments; -'Omfg cant believe people aren't watching SPL finals' comments; -any other assorted offtopic negativism and arguments. Enjoy this free multiday/multigame event that has been provided to you. Share your enthusiasm for the games! Feel free to shoot me a PM or query me on IRC for any questions or comments. Have fun! ~Nyovne [special edit: Any more derailing over the fact that someone made a Germany vs Poland WW2 joke after page 21 will be met with a week ban.] | ||
|
Rarak
Australia631 Posts
| ||
|
Tofugrinder
Austria899 Posts
| ||
|
marttorn
Norway5211 Posts
I'm a huge MC fanboy, so it's too bad for me (i'd really like to see MC win a major tourney again v_v) but Puma really deserves it. | ||
|
DisaFear
Australia4074 Posts
 | ||
|
Lann555
Netherlands5173 Posts
 | ||
|
Rarak
Australia631 Posts
On August 22 2011 16:23 Tofugrinder wrote: I'm too very disappointed.. at all the "fans" hating on Puma who was clearly the better player. it's time to accept that MC is not as good as he had been. any balance whines just because 1 series are just plain stupid Not that good? did you see his games vs SelecT.. insane micro and decision making there. | ||
|
sleepingdog
Austria6145 Posts
On August 22 2011 16:23 Tofugrinder wrote: at all the "fans" hating on Puma who was clearly the better player. it's time to accept that MC is not as good as he had been. that's touching the core problem Puma is most definitely not the strongest terran in korea (not saying he is mediocre, but cmon now...) and he "appears" to be the way superior player when facing one of the if not the best protoss in the world. Who could challenge that title? Puzzle? Great potential, but not yet. Alicia? Definitely not, he QQs more than anyone. HongUn? Nope, survives with cheesy stuff. Genius? Maybe was in the early days, but no more. Hero? Very skilled but no results yet. Bottom line is, when we protoss players look for guidance, we look at MC. We don't have anyone else (yet). Therefore: if you (somewhat rightfully) claim that MC isn't as good as he once was and can't even take one game of one of the better but not very top terrans, then the question arises: if even MC slumps, then how much hope is there left for strong protoss play? | ||
|
jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On August 22 2011 16:57 Rarak wrote: Not that good? did you see his games vs SelecT.. insane micro and decision making there. He didn't say not that good. He said that MC is not as good as he had been. Which is true. Dude looked untouchable after beating July in his last GSL Championship. Since then his GSL results haven't been spectacular. Doesn't mean he is bad, just isn't as dominate as he was a few months ago. | ||
|
enecateReAP
United Kingdom378 Posts
Please keep the following things out of this topic: -Caster/Stream/player bashing; -Imbalance/race whine; -LoL vs the world arguments; -'Omfg cant believe people aren't watching SPL finals' comments; -any other assorted offtopic negativism and arguments. Just thought that this should be reminded. Seriously, mc just played poorly too if you're being loigical. He lost a warp prism with 3 templar in at one point, the kingpin to the game. In game 2, he didnt switch techs once. In game 1, he had an obs, why didn;t he check if Puma was attacking again or if he was expanding? Just because a protoss looses doesn't mean there is imbalance...x.X; | ||
|
wintergt
Belgium1335 Posts
EDIT: and first game of Puma vs MC, I think MC could have held it if he responded to the second push like the first, ie by being defensive and not blindly charging in. I think in his mind he had already won (in most of our minds probably) so he got a bit reckless. | ||
|
Clafou
Belgium921 Posts
On August 22 2011 16:10 Rarak wrote: I'm so disappointed for MC... I hope he switches to Terran now and wins the GSL. Oh god please... Stop whining about the 1/1/1  | ||
|
Wrathi
Finland16 Posts
First match: Second match: Third match: I would've uploaded match 2 and 3 earlier but it was already late in Finland so I decided to hit the sack instead. I hope you'll understand | ||
|
itstheTB
61 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Hmm, Game 1 he did 4 immortals, Game 3 he did a couple of phoenix VS the banshees. I like the immortal approach but then, the problem is the marines | ||
|
KainiT
Austria392 Posts
| ||
|
charcute
Canada419 Posts
| ||
|
JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On August 22 2011 17:45 Wrathi wrote: Puma vs MC Grand Finals on Youtube if anyone's interested. First match:.. Second match:.. Third match:.. I would've uploaded match 2 and 3 earlier but it was already late in Finland so I decided to hit the sack instead. I hope you'll understand Thanks for uploading. In the first game, MC should've really scouted that his opponent was not opting for a 2nd base and hence shouldn't have pumped so many probes afterwards, rather than preparing for another attack. :-/ | ||
|
BjC
England181 Posts
He won by doing a 4gate warp prism drop and then a warp prism DT drop expand. Special Tactics better than 1/1/1 build!!! | ||
|
Piou
Belgium415 Posts
Game 1 Game 2 Game 3 | ||
|
firehand101
Australia3152 Posts
| ||
|
msjakofsky
1169 Posts
On August 22 2011 14:38 JesusOurSaviour wrote: Now that you say this, I have noticed that the Top Korean Terrans (MVP, Bomber) Actually don't execute the 1-1-1 all in that often, if ever. Bomber is pretty set on bio timing pushes / straight up macro. MVP occasionally does the "2 base hard contains with rine-bunkers, tanks, banshees, raven". MVP v MC in the Code S group stage is a good VOD for people to check out MVP's two base timing. I am guessing/surmising that MVP and bomber both know how effective the 1-1-1 is and are just too honourable to abuse it. Then again, MMA who is top level, used it against Huk and failed miserably , credit to Hukactually MVP used that build but once and he expanded behind it. I don't remember seeing him ever doing an all-in but Bomber definitely uses that, i've seen him doing it at least 2 times. maybe one reason is that these guys are so good and confident in their code S status that they don't feel the need to do such builds that are considered cheap by many, where as lesser players in the up/downs etc do it all the time. Also not many protoss players are around at the later stages of the gsls so the pvt match up is not so common simply by statistics | ||
| ||
