EPT[IEM] Gamescom - Day 5 - Page 283
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Please keep the following things out of this topic: -Caster/Stream/player bashing; -Imbalance/race whine; -LoL vs the world arguments; -'Omfg cant believe people aren't watching SPL finals' comments; -any other assorted offtopic negativism and arguments. Enjoy this free multiday/multigame event that has been provided to you. Share your enthusiasm for the games! Feel free to shoot me a PM or query me on IRC for any questions or comments. Have fun! ~Nyovne [special edit: Any more derailing over the fact that someone made a Germany vs Poland WW2 joke after page 21 will be met with a week ban.] | ||
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Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
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nekoconeco
Australia359 Posts
On August 22 2011 05:45 TheMute wrote: Are the VODs for the finals out? Yeah a bit hard to find though. http://www.twitch.tv/esltv_event_hd/b/293148831 skip to 1:27:40 | ||
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CuSToM
United States1478 Posts
On August 22 2011 12:20 nekoconeco wrote: Yeah a bit hard to find though. http://www.twitch.tv/esltv_event_hd/b/293148831 skip to 1:27:40 you are so kind | ||
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On August 22 2011 07:10 eloist wrote: A 150 Protoss death ball is far from impotent vs. a 200 supply zerg army. If you want to say that you have to bring up that Zerg supply (in roaches, particularly) is not equatable to Protoss supply. In that case you should be comparing army value, in which case 150P supply could quite easily be larger than 200Z of near pure roach. 150P vs 200Z with brood/infestor ain't looking good for P at all (nor should it). Oh well, gonna go watch game 2 some more since MC's midgame looked pretty slick. Up until that catastrophe at the end :| | ||
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DONTPANIC
United States340 Posts
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crms
United States11933 Posts
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snafoo
New Zealand1615 Posts
On August 22 2011 13:28 crms wrote: the very best part of this thread are the MC fans complaining about the power of PuMas 1-1-1 all ins. I guess they forget MC was god of bullshit 4/6 gate all ins during his time at the top. Funny. no one cares that puma did it, people care that it is so strong and is used almost every game on certain maps and its so shitty to watch. | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
On August 22 2011 13:30 snafoo wrote: no one cares that puma did it, people care that it is so strong and is used almost every game on certain maps and its so shitty to watch. i dont think youve been paying enough attention. this garbage has spilled over into mc/puma fanclubs and multiple other threads with people shit talking about puma's play and how hes a terrible noob who can't make code A. | ||
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elwoodng
Singapore438 Posts
An all-in that pulled half his SCVs and failed yet still managed to kill his opponent is pretty ridiculous. MC did mis-micro his warp-prism in game 2, but why did he need to use such a risky tactic in the first place? EMP is like an instant storm and AOE feedback at the same time with longer range. MC landed multiple storms but his army was neutered by 1 EMP. I think the best chance for Protoss at the moment is HongUn style 2-base all-ins. | ||
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lolsixtynine
United States600 Posts
On August 22 2011 13:33 crms wrote: i dont think youve been paying enough attention. this garbage has spilled over into mc/puma fanclubs and multiple other threads with people shit talking about puma's play and how hes a terrible noob who can't make code A. How can people possibly think that when he's won NASL and this? He's one of the best terrans, obviously, but he didn't roll MC like the 3-0 suggests. | ||
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-xpeh-
Ukraine86 Posts
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Belisarius
Australia6231 Posts
On August 22 2011 14:17 -xpeh- wrote: Where to get vods? Seriously? There's a link at the top of this very page. | ||
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tdt
United States3179 Posts
On August 22 2011 02:39 JoeAWESOME wrote: His TvP is top notch atleast. Though he did that 1-1-1 all in, in 2 games but you can't blame him for doing something that he knows work Why are you calling it an all in? Didnt you see game on xel naga? Lost whole army and 20 SCVs and still won. | ||
JesusOurSaviour
United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
On August 22 2011 13:30 snafoo wrote: Now that you say this, I have noticed that the Top Korean Terrans (MVP, Bomber) Actually don't execute the 1-1-1 all in that often, if ever. Bomber is pretty set on bio timing pushes / straight up macro. MVP occasionally does the "2 base hard contains with rine-bunkers, tanks, banshees, raven". MVP v MC in the Code S group stage is a good VOD for people to check out MVP's two base timing. I am guessing/surmising that MVP and bomber both know how effective the 1-1-1 is and are just too honourable to abuse it. no one cares that puma did it, people care that it is so strong and is used almost every game on certain maps and its so shitty to watch. Then again, MMA who is top level, used it against Huk and failed miserably  , credit to Huk | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
On August 22 2011 14:38 JesusOurSaviour wrote: Now that you say this, I have noticed that the Top Korean Terrans (MVP, Bomber) Actually don't execute the 1-1-1 all in that often, if ever. Bomber is pretty set on bio timing pushes / straight up macro. MVP occasionally does the "2 base hard contains with rine-bunkers, tanks, banshees, raven". MVP v MC in the Code S group stage is a good VOD for people to check out MVP's two base timing. I am guessing/surmising that MVP and bomber both know how effective the 1-1-1 is and are just too honourable to abuse it. Then again, MMA who is top level, used it against Huk and failed miserably , credit to HukMVP actually tweeted that people who use 1/1/1 should be disqualified. Hahaha. Oh MVP, you baller. I think Bomber might have used the 1/1/1 against MC once, but it was on that map that Bomber always all-ins on because he hates it so much. | ||
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babylon
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FairForever
Canada2392 Posts
On August 22 2011 14:48 babylon wrote: MVP actually tweeted that people who use 1/1/1 should be disqualified. Hahaha. Oh MVP, you baller. I think Bomber might have used the 1/1/1 against MC once, but it was on that map that Bomber always all-ins on because he hates it so much. Bomber's all-in also failed - I think part of it is because MVP/Bomber know they're pretty good they don't feel the need to use such a risky tactic (sure 1/1/1 is definitely over 50% vs Protoss, but if Bomber/MVP feel more comfortable with macro style why do an all-in?) - I don't think it has anything to do with honour. PuMa can also win without the 1/1/1 (he defeated MC in a BO7 NASL final) but I think he does practice the 1/1/1 more than Bomber/MVP and uses it in his arsenal. Personally I wish MVP/Bomber used the 1/1/1 once in awhile, although not as much as other Terrans. I think it'd make them more fearsome. | ||
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snafoo
New Zealand1615 Posts
On August 22 2011 15:01 FairForever wrote: Bomber's all-in also failed - I think part of it is because MVP/Bomber know they're pretty good they don't feel the need to use such a risky tactic (sure 1/1/1 is definitely over 50% vs Protoss, but if Bomber/MVP feel more comfortable with macro style why do an all-in?) - I don't think it has anything to do with honour. PuMa can also win without the 1/1/1 (he defeated MC in a BO7 NASL final) but I think he does practice the 1/1/1 more than Bomber/MVP and uses it in his arsenal. Personally I wish MVP/Bomber used the 1/1/1 once in awhile, although not as much as other Terrans. I think it'd make them more fearsome. Bomber's 1/1/1 against MC last season killed MC pretty hard, it didn't fail. "RT: @sc2immvp: There needs to be a rule where you get disqualified if you use 1/1/1" is the translation of MVP's tweet from a little while ago. | ||
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Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
On August 22 2011 14:48 babylon wrote: MVP actually tweeted that people who use 1/1/1 should be disqualified. Hahaha. Oh MVP, you baller. I think Bomber might have used the 1/1/1 against MC once, but it was on that map that Bomber always all-ins on because he hates it so much. LOL i remember one of the first few matches I watched of MVP was him doing it twice to Tester in Code S. It wasnt as refined back then but he brought ravens, scvs, marines, banshees (dont remember if he brought tanks too.) | ||
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Luongo
Canada15 Posts
On August 22 2011 13:28 crms wrote: Then again, MMA who is top level, used it against Huk and failed miserably , credit to HukMMA also forgot to research siege mode...... | ||
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