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tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
August 21 2011 17:16 GMT
#3961
On August 22 2011 02:13 PeggyHill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 02:12 DiuLaSing wrote:
1 good storm = wont win the game, 1 good emp = instant gg...thats just how it is now for pvt


this so much.

so so so much.

Totally agree. 1 storm can't kill marauders or hurt them that much at all. But 1 good EMP destroy all the shield + energies for caster, and marauders' bazooka is just too good against anything
Tamotab
Profile Joined September 2010
France38 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 17:18:32
August 21 2011 17:16 GMT
#3962
So much QQ and Terran bashing in this thread.

Come on Blizzard :
- remove the mules
- nerf the medivacs
- nerf the EMPs
- nerf the marines
- remove the PDD
- ...

Actually just remove the terran race, all their units are OP anyway.

Did you realize that there was ONE Terran (a bad code B Korean) in the top 4 in IEM and he has a chance to win ! What a scandal !
gillon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1578 Posts
August 21 2011 17:16 GMT
#3963
On August 22 2011 02:14 HaXXspetten wrote:
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On August 22 2011 02:13 netsky4 wrote:
On August 22 2011 02:11 Toadvine wrote:
Ok, I'm done with this crap. PuMa sits in full Storms, can't hit a good EMP, 30 supply behind most of the game, but rolls MC anyway because lol.

MC is way better, but he will most likely lose anyway.

Puma won cause he played better
MC played too greedy, just accept it

MC played better, he didn't lose because Terran is OP, he lost due to upgrades and the loss of the warp prism full of templars... still can't help but feel that MC deserved to win that

You're not fucking playing better if you make the wrong decision and disregard ups for too long. That's bad, IE. PLAYING BADLY.

He lost because PuMa played better. Easy.
www.teamproperty.net | "You should hate losing, but you should never fear defeat." - 이윤열
Gamgee
Profile Joined August 2010
United States135 Posts
August 21 2011 17:17 GMT
#3964
On August 22 2011 02:15 snafoo wrote:
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On August 22 2011 02:13 Immersion_ wrote:
Can anyone confirm/deny PuMas hidden early 4th to the right of MCs main? Couldn't tell if it was a CC or just a random building but casters didnt show it at all.


i was wondering this too, looked a bit small to be a CC though, so might of been a factory.

They did show it, it was Puma's scouting factory - he landed it there.
illu23
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany71 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 17:17:59
August 21 2011 17:17 GMT
#3965
This is horseshit. Blizzard needs to nerf Terran in TvP. Right now, Toss has to play like 3x better than Terran to be on even levels.

Look at all the most recent TvPs in GSL and especially this tournament. Terran bio is always just like "lolol, I move all over your army lololol" and "rofl, emp is ez, buddy. Ghost so fast and more range than HT? lolol".


Fix this or one day it will be like 75% Terrans in GSL.

Oh wait...

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Odi et amo. Quare id faciam fortasse requiris. Nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior.
Spicy Pepper
Profile Joined December 2009
United States632 Posts
August 21 2011 17:17 GMT
#3966
On August 22 2011 02:11 BuZZ123 wrote:
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On August 22 2011 02:10 Spicy Pepper wrote:
Please give the warp prism more health.

WTF. You shudnt be able to fly a unit over stimmed marines and have it stay alive, no carrier type unit can fly over 10 stimmed marines and survive.

I don't think It was 10 marines. It was like 6 to 8 taking shots for gateway units. There's no decision making in the terran's spot. Do I go for the prism or do I engage the army? Protoss can't just decide, let's go for the medivacs when in a fight.
Demonaz
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1219 Posts
August 21 2011 17:17 GMT
#3967
On August 22 2011 02:14 oniman999 wrote:
Funny how 3/4 of the top 4 in this tournament are gonna go to toss and yet there's so much crying of Terran being imba. Oh well, this finals is pretty awesome so far and i'm enjoying the heck out of it!


Puma imba, not Terran
DoubleB
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany870 Posts
August 21 2011 17:17 GMT
#3968
On August 22 2011 02:15 JKira wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 02:13 netsky4 wrote:
On August 22 2011 02:11 Toadvine wrote:
Ok, I'm done with this crap. PuMa sits in full Storms, can't hit a good EMP, 30 supply behind most of the game, but rolls MC anyway because lol.

MC is way better, but he will most likely lose anyway.

Puma won cause he played better
MC played too greedy, just accept it


How was it greedy O_O

He just lost his warp prism and was behind on upgrades. Puma took his extra bases way earlier than MC, so how was MC being greedier...

MC took his forth nearer the Terrans base than to his own, this is called "greedy"
powerdawg96
Profile Joined November 2010
United States129 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 17:17:51
August 21 2011 17:17 GMT
#3969
On August 22 2011 02:16 Troublesome wrote:
MC going afk to hunt down David Kim..

lol, or dustin bowder

edit: bowder
Steamroller
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland756 Posts
August 21 2011 17:17 GMT
#3970
Protoss players are biggest whiners ever. Even Zergs did not whine this much back in time when they had a hard time.
Razuik
Profile Joined October 2010
United States409 Posts
August 21 2011 17:17 GMT
#3971
On August 22 2011 02:15 insolentrus wrote:
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On August 22 2011 02:14 Clafou wrote:
On August 22 2011 02:12 koolaid1990 wrote:
Lose CC, lose 2 barracks, lose 3 drops = win?



Micro like a boss, dodge storms like a beast, drop everywhere, destroy the 4th, macro like a god -> Win.


Stop whining guys,

micro like a boss?
what?
A+click yeah hard micro...

Stop being so ignorant about the game, jesus.
Nightkaira
Profile Joined March 2011
Singapore412 Posts
August 21 2011 17:17 GMT
#3972
MC was caught in a bad angle, and Puma forced the engagement. still Terran calling Protoss OP ? LoL ....
Causality~
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway150 Posts
August 21 2011 17:17 GMT
#3973
I love Rotti, hes like : :D :D :D
Jaedong <3
skrotcyk
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden432 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 17:17:33
August 21 2011 17:17 GMT
#3974
So many kids QQing about Code S n Code A. Can't accept MC was outplayed by a non code a-/bsplayer.. really sad
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
August 21 2011 17:17 GMT
#3975
1 thing about that is that MC had A LOT OF supply locked in defending the drops.
6 zealots 2 ht in his 3rd and 4 zealots and 2 ht in his main, if those were in the fight, imagine how much closer it cld have been/
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
August 21 2011 17:17 GMT
#3976
On August 22 2011 02:15 LoCaD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 02:11 XupinatoR wrote:
On August 22 2011 02:09 Thorakh wrote:
I think the warp prism dieing with 3 HT inside was the turning point.


i dont understand why loosing 3 ghosts is just bad and loosing 3 hts can costs a protoss the game, LOL


exactly stuff like this i am not saying anything but terran gets away with errors but if its other races its always that move will lose him the game not having fun anymore.


Yes, Terran is the least fragile race in the game, doesn't mean it's imba
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
August 21 2011 17:17 GMT
#3977
On August 22 2011 02:12 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
I thought protoss learned not to go pure gateway against bio at this point. EMP's and upgrades w/ stim just demolish every gateway unit. Build collosus.


Have you ever seen Korean terrans micro vikings against colossi? It basically shuts them out of the game.
TooN
Profile Joined February 2011
1046 Posts
August 21 2011 17:17 GMT
#3978
On August 22 2011 02:13 shabby wrote:
I wonder how long it will take before protoss does two things.

1. Use more hotkeys and individually split every single high templar. They did it in BW to avoid siege tanks, it's been done, it can be done and should be done.

2. Use another 3 hotkeys for zealots and turn off autocharge, then manually charge key targets for instakills and sick surface area.



you have ideal mechanical wishes I guess.

ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
August 21 2011 17:17 GMT
#3979
On August 22 2011 02:14 Clafou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 02:12 koolaid1990 wrote:
Lose CC, lose 2 barracks, lose 3 drops = win?



Micro like a boss, dodge storms like a beast, drop everywhere, destroy the 4th, macro like a god -> Win.


Stop whining guys,


When that engagement happened MC had his 5th up. I'm pretty sure Puma was getting his 4th back up from when MC destroyed it. Yes, he did drop everywhere. All of those drops did 0 damage and he lost them
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
akalarry
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1978 Posts
August 21 2011 17:17 GMT
#3980
On August 22 2011 02:13 eYeball wrote:
I don't get it why EGPuMa seems so good why he isn't Code A or Code S. Shouldn't he be that by now? Or is perhaps oGsMC slumping since NASL finals?


he's good. he beat dimaga, squirtle, july, alive, clide, revival, mc in the nasl. every series was a do or die scenario.
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