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sashamunguia
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico423 Posts
August 21 2011 17:14 GMT
#3881
On August 22 2011 02:12 redloser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 02:11 Dariusz wrote:
On August 22 2011 01:59 Lann555 wrote:
Puma far behind already. Don't really understand his build tbh


2/3 upgrades vs 1/1 of MC, now you understand?


MC was 2/2


it was 2/3 vs 1/1 for a while, at the end of the game yes, MC has 2/2...
"only the need for meaning changes how you feel about what you see" "he who is not courageous enough to take risks will accomplish nothing in life" "being a Rebel is as stupid as to be completely Obedient"
rolfe
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
August 21 2011 17:14 GMT
#3882
On August 22 2011 02:13 eYeball wrote:
I don't get it why EGPuMa seems so good why he isn't Code A or Code S. Shouldn't he be that by now? Or is perhaps oGsMC slumping since NASL finals?

i'm not sure what happened in the previous qualifiers or how many he attended but i know he skipped the last one for some reason
life will not be contained. Life breaks free, it expands to new territories and crashes through barriers, painfully, maybe even dangerously but there it is. Life finds a way
lowkontrast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States855 Posts
August 21 2011 17:14 GMT
#3883
On August 22 2011 02:11 Ryuu2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 02:10 DrunkeN. wrote:
On August 22 2011 02:09 hugman wrote:
On August 22 2011 02:08 HaXXspetten wrote:
Am I the only one who don't really understand why MC lost that?

Warp Prism died with full energy HTs


and lack of upgrades.

IT WAS 2/2 AGAINS 3/2 ffs it wasn't the upgrades it was just terrible positioning by mc


That was towards the last engagement. Earlier it was 2-2 with 3-2 on the way against 0-0.
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
August 21 2011 17:14 GMT
#3884
On August 22 2011 02:12 CutthroatCollapse wrote:
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On August 22 2011 02:10 QTIP. wrote:
No problem with Puma that 2nd game, well played


I really dont want to insult you, but you must be retarded. MC played so much better. Puma just had medivacs and upgrades. and stim stim stim. no micro required. its bullshit


later 3rd, worse upgrades, bad control with warp prism/templars

much better play ye
Cuh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States403 Posts
August 21 2011 17:14 GMT
#3885
On August 22 2011 02:13 Immersion_ wrote:
Can anyone confirm/deny PuMas hidden early 4th to the right of MCs main? Couldn't tell if it was a CC or just a random building but casters didnt show it at all.


FACtory
MarineKing | Nestea | MC
Abductedonut
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States324 Posts
August 21 2011 17:14 GMT
#3886
On August 22 2011 02:12 Otori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 02:10 rakoth wrote:
On August 22 2011 01:54 Otori wrote:
Butthurt protosses whining about 1base terran all over this thread. You do realize puma is a good terran and can pull off all ins as well as straight up games right? It's not like he's a random noob who lucked out with a 1base allin. It's pure skill, even those 1base strats

If 1-1-1 was unstoppable it would been used every single game in a tvp, but it's not unstoppable, it's a risk.


So i guess MC is just a random noob, right?


No he's not a random noob and nowhere did I state that, he's an extremely good player aswell but puma outsmarted and outplayed him now two games, whining about balance and cheese is just sad at this level of play.


1-1-1 all-in to another all-in is outsmarting and outplaying him?
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
August 21 2011 17:14 GMT
#3887
On August 22 2011 02:13 shabby wrote:
I wonder how long it will take before protoss does two things.

1. Use more hotkeys and individually split every single high templar. They did it in BW to avoid siege tanks, it's been done, it can be done and should be done.

2. Use another 3 hotkeys for zealots and turn off autocharge, then manually charge key targets for instakills and sick surface area.

how many hotkeys you think we got?
thats like saying storm isnt op just split your marines
TW_Covenant
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark104 Posts
August 21 2011 17:15 GMT
#3888
Protoss for dinner.. yumyum Puma Hwaiting!
New to sc2 old AoE player.
Sindriss
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark263 Posts
August 21 2011 17:15 GMT
#3889
On August 22 2011 02:10 Mentymion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 02:09 Jyvblamo wrote:
MC sacrificed his upgrades to get relatively early HT, but he didn't take advantage of his early HT at all.



and why is that ?

Oh Ghost are 1,5 and have already EMP....


Good idea, emp should be an upgrade, exactly like storm.
IVN
Profile Joined October 2010
534 Posts
August 21 2011 17:15 GMT
#3890
On August 22 2011 02:09 Jimmy Raynor wrote:
For people who can't understand why Puma won the game - upgrades

3/2 vs 2/2
Dariusz
Profile Joined May 2011
Poland657 Posts
August 21 2011 17:15 GMT
#3891
On August 22 2011 02:11 Toadvine wrote:
Ok, I'm done with this crap. PuMa sits in full Storms, can't hit a good EMP, 30 supply behind most of the game, but rolls MC anyway because lol.

MC is way better, but he will most likely lose in spite of this.


Go watch a game that your tiny brain can understand then
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
August 21 2011 17:15 GMT
#3892
I think it's time to put khaydarin amulet back in the game
bertu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Brazil871 Posts
August 21 2011 17:15 GMT
#3893
Both games, MC does 19 things right and 1 thing wrong, and loses. Puma makes a lot of mistakes, win anyways.

Playing Protoss in unforgiving.
SEKO SEKO SEKO
woob
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1322 Posts
August 21 2011 17:15 GMT
#3894
fuck you whiners -.-'
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ez
kheldorin
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore539 Posts
August 21 2011 17:15 GMT
#3895
On August 22 2011 02:13 snejstorm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 02:12 DiuLaSing wrote:
1 good storm = wont win the game, 1 good emp = instant gg...thats just how it is now for pvt

if you rely on storm and move all ur templar in 1 chunk - yeah - instant gg


You're joking..MC got off more feedback and storms then Puma got off emp. How does that mean Puma has better micro?
LoCaD
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1634 Posts
August 21 2011 17:15 GMT
#3896
On August 22 2011 02:11 XupinatoR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 02:09 Thorakh wrote:
I think the warp prism dieing with 3 HT inside was the turning point.


i dont understand why loosing 3 ghosts is just bad and loosing 3 hts can costs a protoss the game, LOL


exactly stuff like this i am not saying anything but terran gets away with errors but if its other races its always that move will lose him the game not having fun anymore.
I give up, I just don't know what to write here.
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
August 21 2011 17:15 GMT
#3897
On August 22 2011 02:13 paradox_ wrote:
what i find funny is, MC is considered a top 3 toss if not the best. Puma doesn't even register when you look at top terrans.

After such playing as well as he did, 1 mistake leads to losses in both games. Puma had multiple failed drops, ate multiple storms and feedbacks, missed emps, failed alliin etc and yet he wins.

Puma was queueing up like 5 scvs, upgrades etc. Granted there are situations where it doesn't matter but really? Puma manages to kill the shuttle and its a win from there

I sorta agree, it just felt like MC played a great game, while Puma played kinda sloppily and made quite a few mistakes, yet MC makes just one mistake and then he loses the game.
It appears I have been chosen.
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
August 21 2011 17:15 GMT
#3898
marauders most certainly aren't +2 per upgrade
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
rpgalon
Profile Joined April 2011
Brazil1069 Posts
August 21 2011 17:15 GMT
#3899
MC killed every fucking dropship of puma, and one warp prism loses him the game, lol
badog
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
August 21 2011 17:15 GMT
#3900
On August 22 2011 02:13 dcsoda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 02:10 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On August 22 2011 02:09 Shalaiyn wrote:
On August 22 2011 02:09 AA.spoon wrote:
On August 22 2011 02:08 HaXXspetten wrote:
Am I the only one who don't really understand why MC lost that?

He picked the wrong race.


You mean the race that was on top for 4-5 months?


Protoss was never even close to "on top". Stop being so ignorant.


What? MC won two GSLs and almost every foreign tournament he entered a few months ago and was the best player in the world. I'd say Protoss was on top then.

Protoss wasn't on top then. MC was on top.
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
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