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namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
August 10 2011 07:57 GMT
#5901
People people, stop making excuses. Koreans are simply better, white dudes need to practice way more. Simple as that.
IM hwaitiing ~ IMMvp #1 | Bang Min Ah <3<3
akari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States65 Posts
August 10 2011 07:57 GMT
#5902
On August 10 2011 16:55 Serpico wrote:
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On August 10 2011 16:54 akari wrote:
On August 10 2011 16:46 Serpico wrote:
On August 10 2011 16:44 akari wrote:
People who think idra would do well are delusional at best.

Yeah, not like he's got a winning record against the only foreigner left in code S or anything. You could make the same argument against huk.

Is this seriously a counter argument? You make two huge logical fallacies. One, you assume I believe Huk will do well. Two, well, lets put it this way, using equal logic, I can say idra has a losing record vs Lotze, who no one even knows because he's basically out of the tournament scene for good. See what I did there?

We're talking about foreigners in the GSL? Thanks for coming out of left field. The point was we're talking about the relative quality of them and not other players.

Logic is not your cup of tea, is it?
When I say Korean, I mean plays on the Korean server. I don't care what you think it is, that's what I mean when I say it.
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
August 10 2011 07:57 GMT
#5903
On August 10 2011 16:56 Trizz wrote:
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On August 10 2011 16:55 Zzoram wrote:
At this point the it's looking like we will never ever see a foreign GSL champion. The more time that passes, the larger the Korean lead on the rest of the world grows.


I don't think anyone ever expected a foreigner GSL champion.
Koreans are just way better.


In late 2010 it looked possible because of Jinro.

All hope is lost now.
RykuX
Profile Joined March 2011
1200 Posts
August 10 2011 07:57 GMT
#5904
On August 10 2011 16:56 sleepingdog wrote:
Wow...coming to work, eating breakfast, expecting to read at least about one single victory....day = ruined, I'm depressed now


Dont give up you still have Huk to root for! =D
ShootingStars
Profile Joined August 2010
1475 Posts
August 10 2011 07:58 GMT
#5905
On August 10 2011 16:57 namste wrote:
People people, stop making excuses. Koreans are simply better, white dudes need to practice way more. Simple as that.

No they don't they need quality practice not MORE practice >_>
BadBinky
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Finland649 Posts
August 10 2011 07:58 GMT
#5906
Oh no my toto!
It's more important to be tough than to have any fun.
PlosionCornu
Profile Joined August 2010
Italy814 Posts
August 10 2011 07:58 GMT
#5907
On August 10 2011 16:41 s3183529 wrote:
Lol. All Toss died? Code S does not seem promising either...Hope Huk or Alicia can create miracles!


Seriously now, what's up with protoss. They are literarly dropping like flies. Even in bw goddammit.
sickoota
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada918 Posts
August 10 2011 07:59 GMT
#5908
On August 10 2011 16:50 Serpico wrote:
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On August 10 2011 16:48 JayJay_90 wrote:
On August 10 2011 16:46 Serpico wrote:
On August 10 2011 16:44 akari wrote:
People who think idra would do well are delusional at best.

Yeah, not like he's got a winning record against the only foreigner left in code S or anything. You could make the same argument against huk.

doesn't change the fact that right now he's probably worse than nani, thorzain and sase.

...ya even though he finished above naniwa/huk/thorzain at columbus and was 1-2 spots behind them this past MLG. Sure bro. and Sase? He's a good EU player but at this point that's it.

Idra has losing records vs all four of the players who played today... SaSe demolished him at DH, Nani beat him at MLG...
I could spend a while with that smile
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
August 10 2011 07:59 GMT
#5909
On August 10 2011 16:55 SEANSYE wrote:
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On August 10 2011 16:52 Serpico wrote:
On August 10 2011 16:50 SEANSYE wrote:
On August 10 2011 16:48 Serpico wrote:
On August 10 2011 16:46 SEANSYE wrote:
On August 10 2011 16:46 Yew wrote:
On August 10 2011 16:44 zeru wrote:
On August 10 2011 16:44 Yew wrote:
On August 10 2011 16:42 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On August 10 2011 16:38 NExt wrote:
[quote]

Idra is the only foreigner with results in the GSL. Jinro has come closest with a Ro4 showing in the GSL, but idra had consistency

crazy foo

Are you seriously retarded?

IdrAs GSL results:
Top 32
Top 16
Top 8
Leaves Korea

My GSL results:
Top 4
Top 4
Top 16
Top 32
Code A
Code A
Code B

I dunno how the hell you can say IdrAs results in GSL are anywhere close to mine, especially when I beat him in GSL 4-1 --;

IdrAs is most definitely better than me now but his GSL results are not, no fucking way.

He qualified for the first seasons though

So did artosis and bitbybit.

Idra had been in every GSL since the first though.


omg seriously who cares what IdrA did. And the first 3 GSL were just absolute terrible.

Ok, wilt chamberlain and oscar robertson were terrible because they played in shitty eras compared to now. Your argument is meaningless because you can't compare time periods. It's like bitching about easy or hard brackets, you play who you play and deal with it.


Yea, but he's making IdrA sound like some fucking Bonjwa for just participating in the GSL. Jinro had straight up better and consistent results( beating Idra head 2 head in GSL) and owning some of the best players at that time, e.g MC. What did IdrA do? Oh yea he participated in the first GSL. Good one.

He didnt have to be seeded into code A and qualified his first time and played well. You can't really ask for much more. For people making the argument he had better results than jinro in the GSL? No, never.


Oh btw, When I was talking about the first 3 GSL being horrible, by no means am I ever ganna take away Fruits or Nesteas GSL Wins. I'm talking about how shit most of the competition were and thats what IdrA went up against lol. And he didn't even accomplish anything during that time.

How can you say he didnt accomplish anything? Are you people really so critical that you think if you dont win GSLs anything you do is meaningless? You wouldnt have a scene if people said fuck it because they couldnt win it all. Again, you can't compare time periods because they're inherently different. You can't compare athletes from 40 years ago to ones now and say "LOL those shitty players in the 19xxs are garbage their accomplishments mean nothing." You might as well kick everyone out of every hall of fame every 10 years to make way for the new era of players. We might as well say what jinro did and what huk is doing dont mean shit unless they win a GSL. It's ignorant to think that.
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
August 10 2011 07:59 GMT
#5910
After what we've seen recently, I really want to see Dimaga, Mana and Stephano, possibly Sen, come to Korea along side Thorzain and Naniwa. I feel like that would be an absolutely killer team. No foreign Terran can really compare right now, which is a shame.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-10 08:00:25
August 10 2011 08:00 GMT
#5911
On August 10 2011 16:58 ShootingStars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 16:57 namste wrote:
People people, stop making excuses. Koreans are simply better, white dudes need to practice way more. Simple as that.

No they don't they need quality practice not MORE practice >_>


They need both. Most foreigners treat SC2 tournaments as easy money, not a job. The days of easy money (at least for foreigners) are over.
RykuX
Profile Joined March 2011
1200 Posts
August 10 2011 08:00 GMT
#5912
On August 10 2011 16:58 ShootingStars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 16:57 namste wrote:
People people, stop making excuses. Koreans are simply better, white dudes need to practice way more. Simple as that.

No they don't they need quality practice not MORE practice >_>


Indeed quality over quantity ! that's the whole purpose of coming here must become the best of the best ! I look forward to watching our foreigners play in GSTL they will become even more foreign boss's then they are now :D
chatuka
Profile Joined July 2011
1351 Posts
August 10 2011 08:00 GMT
#5913
On August 10 2011 16:58 PlosionCornu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 16:41 s3183529 wrote:
Lol. All Toss died? Code S does not seem promising either...Hope Huk or Alicia can create miracles!


Seriously now, what's up with protoss. They are literarly dropping like flies. Even in bw goddammit.


i don't know man. Blizzard will revamp Protoss in next patch in SC2. the software engineers are watching every GSL and MLG carefully.
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
August 10 2011 08:00 GMT
#5914
On August 10 2011 16:59 sickoota wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 16:50 Serpico wrote:
On August 10 2011 16:48 JayJay_90 wrote:
On August 10 2011 16:46 Serpico wrote:
On August 10 2011 16:44 akari wrote:
People who think idra would do well are delusional at best.

Yeah, not like he's got a winning record against the only foreigner left in code S or anything. You could make the same argument against huk.

doesn't change the fact that right now he's probably worse than nani, thorzain and sase.

...ya even though he finished above naniwa/huk/thorzain at columbus and was 1-2 spots behind them this past MLG. Sure bro. and Sase? He's a good EU player but at this point that's it.

Idra has losing records vs all four of the players who played today... SaSe demolished him at DH, Nani beat him at MLG...


Nani's strongest ZvP strat is cheese, ones that don't work on giant GSL maps.

I am not insulting, it's just plain fact based on his PvZ wins.


Getting crossfire and terminus fucked him pretty hard.
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-10 08:01:15
August 10 2011 08:00 GMT
#5915
On August 10 2011 16:59 sickoota wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 16:50 Serpico wrote:
On August 10 2011 16:48 JayJay_90 wrote:
On August 10 2011 16:46 Serpico wrote:
On August 10 2011 16:44 akari wrote:
People who think idra would do well are delusional at best.

Yeah, not like he's got a winning record against the only foreigner left in code S or anything. You could make the same argument against huk.

doesn't change the fact that right now he's probably worse than nani, thorzain and sase.

...ya even though he finished above naniwa/huk/thorzain at columbus and was 1-2 spots behind them this past MLG. Sure bro. and Sase? He's a good EU player but at this point that's it.

Idra has losing records vs all four of the players who played today... SaSe demolished him at DH, Nani beat him at MLG...

and has beaten huk more often than not and beat jinro the last time they played. Point? Maybe, just maybe you can't just use the transitive property as if it's the word of god?
namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
August 10 2011 08:00 GMT
#5916
On August 10 2011 16:59 Dexington wrote:
After what we've seen recently, I really want to see Dimaga, Mana and Stephano, possibly Sen, come to Korea along side Thorzain and Naniwa. I feel like that would be an absolutely killer team. No foreign Terran can really compare right now, which is a shame.


Tarson took out sC quite nicely yesterday, albeit it was an online cup but nonetheless.
IM hwaitiing ~ IMMvp #1 | Bang Min Ah <3<3
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
August 10 2011 08:01 GMT
#5917
On August 10 2011 16:51 Lobotomist wrote:
Well, I'll admit, ZvP looks Z favored right now. What happened to going collosi on two bases? Is that old school standard as bad as everyone must think it is (as no one does it anymore)


1. Zergs discovered baneling drops.

2. Maps like Terminus and Crossfire don't favor it. Terminus is basically three fast bases for the Zerg and a lot of open space in the middle, meaning the Zerg can quickly macro up a huge army and overwhelm your two-base colossi if they find that you're turtling. Crossfire... It's muta/mobility heaven, and if you attack, they counter, forcing you into a base trade situation that they'll likely win because they can take a third and you can't.



kidd
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States2848 Posts
August 10 2011 08:01 GMT
#5918
all foreigners lost T_T my heart is broken. Hopefully they do better next time and in GSTL.

Regarding whole Idra going back to Korea thing, who cares? He's not going back. He is more solid and consistent than the foreigners there right now though with the exception of Huk who has improved so much from the Korean professional routine.
Hi
FeastOfThePoops
Profile Joined May 2011
149 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-10 08:01:58
August 10 2011 08:01 GMT
#5919
Darclite
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1021 Posts
August 10 2011 08:01 GMT
#5920
On August 10 2011 17:00 chatuka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 16:58 PlosionCornu wrote:
On August 10 2011 16:41 s3183529 wrote:
Lol. All Toss died? Code S does not seem promising either...Hope Huk or Alicia can create miracles!


Seriously now, what's up with protoss. They are literarly dropping like flies. Even in bw goddammit.


i don't know man. Blizzard will revamp Protoss in next patch in SC2. the software engineers are watching every GSL and MLG carefully.


And then they'll shock everyone by...Nerfing them again! (I wouldn't be shocked lol)
They're fools. You should eat them.
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