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Mikah
Finland230 Posts
On August 07 2011 20:55 Fyzar wrote: how the f were the games good? It was terrible, the games were good, but the casting and observing was horrible. Coming from someone who was stoked to see it. | ||
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Rabbitmaster
1357 Posts
On August 07 2011 20:54 mholden02 wrote: No. Naniwa has 0 social skills. He's like someone who's been home schooled all their life, and never related with people before. I bet you can make that judgement based on a few interviews! What if hes just camera shy? Is not "socially awkward" when hes talking on vent etc (See tl attack!) | ||
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Netsky
Australia1155 Posts
On August 07 2011 20:53 Lowell wrote: Its not used THAT often though, i think if Terrans would start to abuse that push more frequently, it wouldnt take so long until Tosses would get better holding it. Dont really know though. The 1-1-1 build that has been having mild success in the GSL is not what Tarson did. He did a cloaked banshee into a marine/tank push with (unfortunately) bad timing and execution. | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On August 07 2011 20:53 Devolved wrote: Can you really afford (gas-wise) tanks, banshees, siege upgrade, cloak upgrade, and a raven? I really don't think that's feasible. Something needs to be cut out of that and he cut the raven (and forgot siege mode). No. The raven is not needed and certainly puts more hurt on your timing. If you want to add a raven you either build a raven first which hurts your banshee count or you build it after your first banshee (no cloak btw) to have enough energy when you push. The thing is that against a raven the push overall is weaker and the Protoss can force a fight and a PDD before his natural anyways. As already mentioned if you just deal a bit of damage with your first banshee and than slowly push with siege and mass marines at his natural. You focus down stalkers with banshee/siegetank. Even if he cuts your army in half , the power of the forcefield is nearly nullified since tanks have enough range to stand behind and rain hell on stalkers while marines can focusfire the zealots. The most common mistake in execution is to lose the banshees because they rush ahead or lose your high marine count due to own tank-fire, because lots of players don't seem to target stalker/sentry with the tanks. It was just plainly bad executed as much as I like Tarson. Cloak is in my opinion just a lot weaker and naniwa already did him a favor adding immortals which are utterly shit usually against a well played 2-1-1 allin. Naniwa otherwise did it completely right with adding huge stalkercounts and 5-6 gateways. | ||
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TheHova
United Kingdom2612 Posts
On August 07 2011 20:53 Lowell wrote: Its not used THAT often though, i think if Terrans would start to abuse that push more frequently, it wouldnt take so long until Tosses would get better holding it. Dont really know though. It's certainly used a lot more in Korea. I vaguely remember watching one of the up and down groups which was full of Protosses and Terrans, and all the Protoss lost to that build at least once. It was used about 5-6 times that day alone. Poor Tassadar lost to it 3times and even scouted it minutes before it came haha. There could certainly be a way of holding it but i'm just yet to see someone hold it when it's executed properly. | ||
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Blix
Netherlands873 Posts
On August 07 2011 20:57 Rabbitmaster wrote: I bet you can make that judgement based on a few interviews! What if hes just camera shy? Is not "socially awkward" when hes talking on vent etc (See tl attack!) I hate how honesty is considered a lack of social skills | ||
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marttorn
Norway5211 Posts
On August 07 2011 20:56 Chezus wrote: Seriously? What would you have answered to the question "Do you think ThorZaIN is better than Tarson" if Tarson is standing right next to you? I'm sure nAni thinks ThorZaIN is the better player, and he was being mannered not saying that. Stop hating. wtf is up with this guy saying nani has no social skills based on interviews meant to be seen/read by thousands of people? Do you know Nani IRL and speak to him in Swedish on a regular basis? Complete bullshit. | ||
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tofubeans
United States794 Posts
On August 07 2011 20:57 Rabbitmaster wrote: I bet you can make that judgement based on a few interviews! What if hes just camera shy? Is not "socially awkward" when hes talking on vent etc (See tl attack!) Yeah, his casting at homestory cup was also surprisingly well and not awkward like you would think. | ||
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Thorakh
Netherlands1788 Posts
No of course not, he basically avoided the question in a good way and answered something generic. Pfff... | ||
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TaoTeKing
France481 Posts
yep or 25 i don't remember, i just saw a blur | ||
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shabby
Norway6402 Posts
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NormandyBoy
France200 Posts
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sopas
509 Posts
On August 07 2011 20:54 mholden02 wrote: No. Naniwa has 0 social skills. He's like someone who's been home schooled all their life, and never related with people before. how do u know so much about his social skills? he seems to do just fine on sotg and tl attack, just shutup | ||
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Worldatlarge
United States649 Posts
On August 07 2011 20:56 Fyzar wrote: Indeed, wtf was he supposed to say? I rate TZ higher butTarson is standing next to me so yeah. It's funny that when Idra says shit exactly like this people drool all over him, Naniwa gives a very sensible and empathic answer and people say he doesn't have social skills. | ||
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dtz
5834 Posts
On August 07 2011 20:55 mholden02 wrote: You just say something like, "They have two complete different styles, both very challenging players" is that so tough? Didn't he say that? He said "all terrans the same to me, except they have difference in style but if i do my best i am confident i can win 2-0" That's what he said. Why is that answer wrong and reeks of 0 social skill to you? No difference whatsoever to what you said. | ||
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SoSexy
Italy3725 Posts
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SolidMustard
France1515 Posts
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DrivE
United States2554 Posts
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Dingobloo
Australia1903 Posts
On August 07 2011 20:58 tofubeans wrote: Yeah, his casting at homestory cup was also surprisingly well and not awkward like you would think. The TL attack where he hosted and thorzain was the guest was also pretty funny, he's blunt, but he's definitely aware of it. | ||
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Derez
Netherlands6068 Posts
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