EPTAlso, the pools will clean themselves out eventually now that Koreans are being invited every event. It's a work in progress and it's not like you can just kick people out of pool play.
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Cant believe theres so much hate in these threads while we're so blessed with a wonderful event, with wonderful games. Last warning, whine and insult the players or commentators? See you. | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
Also, the pools will clean themselves out eventually now that Koreans are being invited every event. It's a work in progress and it's not like you can just kick people out of pool play. | ||
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Trowa127
United Kingdom1230 Posts
On August 01 2011 23:30 mordek wrote: Are there any posts on the Korean reactions to Boxer's performace? Also, the pools will clean themselves out eventually now that Koreans are being invited every event. It's a work in progress and it's not like you can just kick people out of pool play. Yeah I understand that, I just wish it would happen a bit quicker  So painful watching some of the players in Pools.. | ||
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HyperionDreamer
Canada1528 Posts
On August 01 2011 23:33 Trowa127 wrote: Yeah I understand that, I just wish it would happen a bit quicker So painful watching some of the players in Pools..It'll happen over time, don't worry. I'm incredibly happy that BoxeR showed some good play finally, I've been a huge fan of his for many years, since his legendary BW days. I'm also incredibly happy that the Koreans put out another fantastic showing, the level of US tournaments has gotten so much higher since they started inviting them. | ||
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darlhet
Italy548 Posts
On August 01 2011 22:43 4ZakeN87 wrote: did you actually watch the games? they were really good TvT the build only doesnt make a game good or bad, its how u execute it that does, plus MMA went for a different style pretty much always, providing a lot of excitment .Yeah I understand you cannot forbid Koreans to play it is just the reality of foreigners vs koreans is a rather sad story. Watching 4 terran koreans battling out aint just that much fun in my world, simply cause I dont really bother which of them that wins. I mean I was almost certain that either MVP or MMA would take the tournament from a relatively early stage, but do I care which of them win, not really... To be honest I thought the last 4 players in MLG was close to the least intresting combination of players achievable. If rain had played instead of boxer that would actually have been the least intresting finals possible imo. I mean anything would have been better, Naniwa, Idra, some completly unknown, or even Alica/DRG would all have been much more intresting. And the builds where all the same also. How many games was there something close to: wall in with depo+baracks, hellion aggresion, expand behind it and from their into some variation of tank/marine/viking+likely a raven and then into a late stage with some ghost+maybe thors? If it needs to be 4 people from 1 nation with 1 race cant they at least go different builds... Well to be fair I didnt watch the last 2-3 games cause a car bomb exploded just outside my house (not kidding) before the matches started and that was a lot more intresting. If there had been a foreigner or two among the last 4 I might just have skipped the car bomb for a couple of hours :p koreans can offer the best starcraft currently if you find them boring just because there are no foreigners in it means you dont like starcraft | ||
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Tuplex
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NkWolff
Canada5 Posts
 . But in all seriousness congratulations to all the players, casters and everyone else who helped put this event together for the great effort they put in! Just wondering if anyone else had problems watching the regular free stream on Day 3, for some reason mine kept freezing every 15-20 seconds and basically meant I had to stop watching the final round of games D: | ||
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4ZakeN87
Sweden1071 Posts
did you actually watch the games? they were really good TvT the build only doesnt make a game good or bad, its how u execute it that does, plus MMA went for a different style pretty much always, providing a lot of excitment . koreans can offer the best starcraft currently if you find them boring just because there are no foreigners in it means you dont like starcraft Yeah obviously the excution of the build is the determining factor when everyone uses the same build. It just gets more boring then it could be, I mean we could have had PvP being "who can do the best 4 gate" forever but after a while some said "wait, aint this pretty boring?" and then they changed it. And about starcraft as general, or any sport really. Can be a soccer game, say Inter vs Milan, what do I know about this two teams, absolutly nothing. Do I recognise that they are great at what they are doing, yes of course. But does that make the match intresting if I dont have some sort of relation to the plp playing, not really. I mean obviously it is more intresting to watch Boxer vs Rain then watching 2 lesser skilled players but still if you compare it to say the dreamhack final being a 10, that was maybe a 4. | ||
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JinDesu
United States3990 Posts
On August 01 2011 23:25 Trowa127 wrote: The thing that could solve this issue is to remove all the scrubs from Pool play. Inc, Machine, Drewbie etc, imagine if instead it was Major, QXC etc in Pool play? One of the reasons it always looks so bad is becuase the Koreans stomp Z class foreigners who earned their spot in Pools when no one knew what the hell was happening with SC2. Its a much more developed game these days and that shows. They're stomping the A class foreigners too.. Naniwa IdrA Sheth Ret Kiwi I agree that the lower end of the pools (drewbie, machine, incontrol) should be weeded out for more top foreigners as you said, but I wouldn't expect that to make that much less one-sided. | ||
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Teriyaki-Boy
United States26 Posts
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Dikkbutt
Sweden193 Posts
On August 01 2011 22:43 4ZakeN87 wrote: Yeah I understand you cannot forbid Koreans to play it is just the reality of foreigners vs koreans is a rather sad story. Watching 4 terran koreans battling out aint just that much fun in my world, simply cause I dont really bother which of them that wins. I mean I was almost certain that either MVP or MMA would take the tournament from a relatively early stage, but do I care which of them win, not really... To be honest I thought the last 4 players in MLG was close to the least intresting combination of players achievable. If rain had played instead of boxer that would actually have been the least intresting finals possible imo. I mean anything would have been better, Naniwa, Idra, some completly unknown, or even Alica/DRG would all have been much more intresting. And the builds where all the same also. How many games was there something close to: wall in with depo+baracks, hellion aggresion, expand behind it and from their into some variation of tank/marine/viking+likely a raven and then into a late stage with some ghost+maybe thors? If it needs to be 4 people from 1 nation with 1 race cant they at least go different builds... Well to be fair I didnt watch the last 2-3 games cause a car bomb exploded just outside my house (not kidding) before the matches started and that was a lot more intresting. If there had been a foreigner or two among the last 4 I might just have skipped the car bomb for a couple of hours :p +1 cause I agree, and what city did the car bomb explode? | ||
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ReaperX
Hong Kong1758 Posts
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Retgery
Canada1229 Posts
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JinDesu
United States3990 Posts
On August 02 2011 00:11 Dikkbutt wrote: + Show Spoiler + On August 01 2011 22:43 4ZakeN87 wrote: Yeah I understand you cannot forbid Koreans to play it is just the reality of foreigners vs koreans is a rather sad story. Watching 4 terran koreans battling out aint just that much fun in my world, simply cause I dont really bother which of them that wins. I mean I was almost certain that either MVP or MMA would take the tournament from a relatively early stage, but do I care which of them win, not really... To be honest I thought the last 4 players in MLG was close to the least intresting combination of players achievable. If rain had played instead of boxer that would actually have been the least intresting finals possible imo. I mean anything would have been better, Naniwa, Idra, some completly unknown, or even Alica/DRG would all have been much more intresting. And the builds where all the same also. How many games was there something close to: wall in with depo+baracks, hellion aggresion, expand behind it and from their into some variation of tank/marine/viking+likely a raven and then into a late stage with some ghost+maybe thors? If it needs to be 4 people from 1 nation with 1 race cant they at least go different builds... Well to be fair I didnt watch the last 2-3 games cause a car bomb exploded just outside my house (not kidding) before the matches started and that was a lot more intresting. If there had been a foreigner or two among the last 4 I might just have skipped the car bomb for a couple of hours :p +1 cause I agree, and what city did the car bomb explode? I think he means the alcoholic drink "car bomb" Edit* oh wow, an actual car bomb..? | ||
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4ZakeN87
Sweden1071 Posts
On August 02 2011 00:11 Dikkbutt wrote: + Show Spoiler + On August 01 2011 22:43 4ZakeN87 wrote: Yeah I understand you cannot forbid Koreans to play it is just the reality of foreigners vs koreans is a rather sad story. Watching 4 terran koreans battling out aint just that much fun in my world, simply cause I dont really bother which of them that wins. I mean I was almost certain that either MVP or MMA would take the tournament from a relatively early stage, but do I care which of them win, not really... To be honest I thought the last 4 players in MLG was close to the least intresting combination of players achievable. If rain had played instead of boxer that would actually have been the least intresting finals possible imo. I mean anything would have been better, Naniwa, Idra, some completly unknown, or even Alica/DRG would all have been much more intresting. And the builds where all the same also. How many games was there something close to: wall in with depo+baracks, hellion aggresion, expand behind it and from their into some variation of tank/marine/viking+likely a raven and then into a late stage with some ghost+maybe thors? If it needs to be 4 people from 1 nation with 1 race cant they at least go different builds... Well to be fair I didnt watch the last 2-3 games cause a car bomb exploded just outside my house (not kidding) before the matches started and that was a lot more intresting. If there had been a foreigner or two among the last 4 I might just have skipped the car bomb for a couple of hours :p +1 cause I agree, and what city did the car bomb explode? Uppsala, in the largest student area (Flogsta). Actually the second car to explode on that parking lot on a month. Uppsala is apperntly the great crime town, who would have figured | ||
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Skydancer
Italy249 Posts
Without korean who is gonna watch MLG? Incontrol vs Drewbie final? 13 people watching. MMA vs MVP final? lot people watching I hope that the pool selection of the playe will change soon, it's so sad see such a poor skill in some players of the pool.... | ||
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Tuplex
80 Posts
On August 02 2011 00:07 Teriyaki-Boy wrote: i think alot of people complaining about korean dominating MLG really show how closed-minded and sad they are...or maybe they just want to see some scrub with low level plays making it to the grandfinal rather wanting to see top notch pro going at it. On that note this prove why foreigner need to step up their game rather than complaining Col.Catz"the korean are taking our money". Anyway am glad they invite korean to MLG it made the competition more credible to watch. I mean winning a sport and claiming your the best in the world without inviting the best players really mean jack shit.So enough with QQ and stop trying to ban korean from MLG. ESPORT FOREVER. There is something of a balancing act here. On one hand I believe it is good for the top Korean players to play in NA and EU tournaments and kick some butt. It will drive the NA and EU players to improve and hopefully reach the same level, which will improve the game and the quality of spectating the games for everyone. On the other hand, if they CAN'T step up, then it will not be so good for MLG and the other NA/EU tournament series, because the fans are not going to be as excited watching the Koreans duke it out as they would be if there was a home-town hero in the finals. | ||
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Vertical
Indonesia4317 Posts
watch this after BM-ing slasher for what he thought slasher just sayin gives his opinion and djWHEAT is like screamin and saying random "f*ck and sh*t and shut up" here and there he even act like a retard at 1:20 only to see that slasher is right in the end OMG i just lost so much respect toward djWHEAT | ||
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BreakfastTea
United States184 Posts
On August 01 2011 23:50 NkWolff wrote: And after this tournament I bet IdrA will still be crying over how OP Protoss are compared to Zerg . But in all seriousness congratulations to all the players, casters and everyone else who helped put this event together for the great effort they put in! Just wondering if anyone else had problems watching the regular free stream on Day 3, for some reason mine kept freezing every 15-20 seconds and basically meant I had to stop watching the final round of games D: lolz I didn't have problems with the free streams. Although, if I had both open and muted one, the muted channel would have to be refreshed after a couple of minutes if I wanted to hear sound. | ||
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Micket
United Kingdom2163 Posts
On August 02 2011 00:29 Vertical wrote: LOOOLLL AT djWHEAT !!! watch this after BM-ing slasher for what he thought slasher politely gives his opinion and djWHEAT is like screamin and saying random "f*ck and sh*t" here and there he even act like a retard at 1:20 OMG i just lost so much respect toward djWHEAT http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQhfrhnue5g&feature What's also funny is that Wheat commented on Spanishiwa's age. Do you know who else is 17? Fucking Marineking. Do you know who is 15? Leenock and SC. Tbh, Slasher was right about nearly everything (except he thought Boxer was gonna fail), and scoots and wheat heavily disagreed. They thought that foreigners were going to compete and Idra and Huk would be in top 3. They also cited qxc vs MVP as a reason MVP wasn't gonna do well (or maybe that was Bitter in an MLG cast can't remember) | ||
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Fourn
Greece227 Posts
That being said I really enjoyed this event and believe that this is once again a wake up call to foreigners to practice harder. | ||
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