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Cant believe theres so much hate in these threads while we're so blessed with a wonderful event, with wonderful games. Last warning, whine and insult the players or commentators? See you.
Fighter
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1531 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 17:19:48
August 01 2011 17:19 GMT
#15761
This was probably my least favorite MLG. No real upsets, Koreans walk away with the top six, WAY too many terrans on the last day...

The most notable things were definitely Boxer v Rain game 1 and Boxer v MMA game 3. Also all the blue flame hellions.

And some of the games I REALLY wanted to see didn't get casted, like Idra v Naniwa.

Oh well, it was still entertaining.
For Aiur???
drcatellino
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada346 Posts
August 01 2011 17:25 GMT
#15762
I have to admit that, like many others, I closed the stream after Huk/Nani were out. I went for a walk to enjoy the summertime and came back for the last game of the finals to realize that it was still another korean TvT going on.

I like that there is Korean invites, of course, but I kinda missed the drama / foreigner clash / epicness of the last MLGs. No hallucinated vrays. No self-destroyed CC.
quote unquote
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
August 01 2011 17:28 GMT
#15763
On August 02 2011 02:19 Fighter wrote:
This was probably my least favorite MLG. No real upsets, Koreans walk away with the top six, WAY too many terrans on the last day...

The most notable things were definitely Boxer v Rain game 1 and Boxer v MMA game 3. Also all the blue flame hellions.

And some of the games I REALLY wanted to see didn't get casted, like Idra v Naniwa.

Oh well, it was still entertaining.



Complete opposite to me, the Korean Terrans are setting the pace and showing us how the game is going to be played 1 year from now.

The days of Idra and Co are coming to an end. They simply don't have it to make it to the top lvl of this game.

Incontrol, Machine, Idra etc are good players but they need to step it up if they want to compete. Its either that or stick to charging lessons for $30 an hour on the streams

QxC, HuK and Naniwa has potential out of all the foreigners to make it as top class pros, and to be honest if you want to make it you gonna have to move to Korea and play in the toughest league to do it.Its not a race thing its a skill thing.
BreakfastTea
Profile Joined May 2011
United States184 Posts
August 01 2011 17:45 GMT
#15764
On August 02 2011 02:11 ballasdontcry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 01:50 KingRajesh wrote:
Did DRG get code A at least?

koreans aren't eligible for the code A spots, so no.

gotta love how quickly the koreans can change the metagame... i'm sure on ladder we'll be seeing a lot more mech play as a standard


I don't think that's entirely correct. I think it's only Korean invites are not eligible for the Code A spots. So, Ganzi should be able to get Code A since he wasn't invited, but instead funded by SlayerS to attend. DRG was invited, so he wouldn't be eligible.
Don't take me seriously, I'm no Pro. Neither are you.
All Bogs
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands104 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 17:55:29
August 01 2011 17:55 GMT
#15765
On August 02 2011 02:25 drcatellino wrote:
No self-destroyed CC.


Actually, MMA did destroy one of his own CCs again. I unfortunately forgot what game it was in, though. He did end up winning said game :-p
GentleDrill
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom672 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 18:00:59
August 01 2011 18:00 GMT
#15766
It was vs DongRaeGu on Shattered Temple (couldn't say which game). It didn't get caught on camera, but we got to see the concave of Marines and the crater where the main CC was. My guess is he misclicked when trying to deal with the 2 Mutas harrassing it that we saw previously.
Alvalanker
Profile Joined July 2011
United States253 Posts
August 01 2011 18:00 GMT
#15767
Koreans are OP.

I was pretty bummed to see the top 6 finishers were all Korean. Gives me little hope :/

Is there ANY hope for a brighter future for NA and/or EU players? I mean Jesus, this was a US tournament and none of the US players put up a fight except IdrA, who was seeded second. INcontrol is not as good as IdrA, he lost a lot of matches.
The fragile art of existence is kept alive by sheer persistence.
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 18:16:47
August 01 2011 18:01 GMT
#15768
i think it was really fun watching and following mlg from home here. im really happy that best players got the top spots. was really enjoying this new tvt playstyle in early and early midgame
really great job mvp he was my bet to win the tour

abit sad alicia and choya didnt get deeper in the tour becuase id like some more tvp's to watch

next time i hope you invite a new zerg player, or 2. seal and some other zerg would be great to see

for the people thats upset so many terrans at the end, well thats what u get when u invite so many and good terrans. they were the best players there not because of terran lol

things i think you should improve tho..
not bo3 all the way t.t
open bracket needs fewer players
invite more than 1 zerg (prefarably a better one) and invite better toss players next time. drg alicia and choya arent bad but theyre not in the level of mvp mma and ganzi lol. imnot sure of boxers level but he looked really good this tournament


On August 02 2011 03:00 Alvalanker wrote:
Koreans are OP.

I was pretty bummed to see the top 6 finishers were all Korean. Gives me little hope :/

Is there ANY hope for a brighter future for NA and/or EU players? I mean Jesus, this was a US tournament and none of the US players put up a fight except IdrA, who was seeded second. INcontrol is not as good as IdrA, he lost a lot of matches.

there are few problems we cant keep up.
motivation issues, they dont practice or care as much (in general)
practice issues, living in korea allows u to find top players always in your skill to practice with you

the best builds gets developed in korea aswell becuase of those reasons. feels like idra just got pretty caught offguard in the early game vs boxer (i think it was) because he didnt have the right scouting possibilites or the right timings on defense to handle what was coming for him.
watching all gsl matches sure help but theres alot of strategies that dont appear in gsl before they get shown in our foreigner events. (nasl 2fac hellion was new to me, and this time the blue flame marine elevator thing was sort of new to me. at least the refined timings of it)

for me i dont reallyget bothered the koreans win these events. it makes me happy in fact. i will only truley cheer for the foreigners that matches the skills of the koreans.
and you cant really blame the foreigners for losing. if your alone on the server trying ur heart out every day u cant do this road on ur own. u need ppl around u that are the same as you and only then u can match up to the koreans. so even if idra practiced all day long wouldnt mean he would win vs the koreans, because the people he practice with are not as good as the koreans

i think more people should just enjoy the game for what it is. just because theres not ton of drama or hallu voidrays or epic foreigner vs korean battles. just because theres alot of tvt shouldnt make you less interested i think.
learn all matchups and you will love them for what they are. learn the players personalities and gameplay through watching them play instead of talk and then u will enjoy events just like this alot more and a much deeper level
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
Alvalanker
Profile Joined July 2011
United States253 Posts
August 01 2011 18:01 GMT
#15769
Day9 or some older American player needs to have a child and raise him to be a SC2 player lol. That is our only hope.
The fragile art of existence is kept alive by sheer persistence.
Alvalanker
Profile Joined July 2011
United States253 Posts
August 01 2011 18:03 GMT
#15770
Was LoSira invited to MLG Anaheim or did he just choose not to come?
The fragile art of existence is kept alive by sheer persistence.
arfyron
Profile Joined July 2011
518 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 18:06:08
August 01 2011 18:04 GMT
#15771
On August 02 2011 02:28 Topdoller wrote:

The days of Idra and Co are coming to an end. They simply don't have it to make it to the top lvl of this game.

Incontrol, Machine, Idra etc are good players but they need to step it up if they want to compete. Its either that or stick to charging lessons for $30 an hour on the streams

QxC, HuK and Naniwa has potential out of all the foreigners to make it as top class pros, and to be honest if you want to make it you gonna have to move to Korea and play in the toughest league to do it.Its not a race thing its a skill thing.


It's ridiculous to lump Idra with machine and incontrol and you know it. Idra was the best foreigner at the last MLG and nani won his MLG when the competition was much worse. Why can Idra not adapt and get better but QxC who isn't even in Code A yet can? Use some actually arguments instead of generalizations.


On August 02 2011 03:03 Alvalanker wrote:
Was LoSira invited to MLG Anaheim or did he just choose not to come?


I would bet that he was invited but turned it down to focus on Code S.
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 18:06:40
August 01 2011 18:05 GMT
#15772
On August 02 2011 01:50 stratmatt wrote:
yep, tbqh i couldnt care less about where a player is from...i just want to see the best players in the world duke it out in some high-stakes matchups. I would love to see a "foreigner" be one of those players but until we get some with enough hardwork and dedication to rise to that level I dont really care. the reason mlg was so huge is because it featured some of the current best players(from korea no doubt) and a very high level of play. if I wanted to watch the IPL, well, id watch the ipl lol.

funny. guess you guys never been to europe or watched europe soccer eh?
It is ALL about nationality and who u are rooting for. You just give a shit if ur team played bad, u just want 'em to win.

And yea to all those idra haters ... this dude was and maybe will be one of the best foreigners in GSL ...
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
August 01 2011 18:13 GMT
#15773
On August 02 2011 03:01 Alvalanker wrote:
Day9 or some older American player needs to have a child and raise him to be a SC2 player lol. That is our only hope.

But the mother has to be korean, there's no other way.
Jinivus
Profile Joined July 2011
747 Posts
August 01 2011 18:20 GMT
#15774
On August 02 2011 03:04 arfyron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 02:28 Topdoller wrote:

The days of Idra and Co are coming to an end. They simply don't have it to make it to the top lvl of this game.

Incontrol, Machine, Idra etc are good players but they need to step it up if they want to compete. Its either that or stick to charging lessons for $30 an hour on the streams

QxC, HuK and Naniwa has potential out of all the foreigners to make it as top class pros, and to be honest if you want to make it you gonna have to move to Korea and play in the toughest league to do it.Its not a race thing its a skill thing.


It's ridiculous to lump Idra with machine and incontrol and you know it. Idra was the best foreigner at the last MLG and nani won his MLG when the competition was much worse. Why can Idra not adapt and get better but QxC who isn't even in Code A yet can? Use some actually arguments instead of generalizations.


Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 03:03 Alvalanker wrote:
Was LoSira invited to MLG Anaheim or did he just choose not to come?


I would bet that he was invited but turned it down to focus on Code S.

Yeah Idra is obviously better than machine and incontrol but he's not doing any better vs koreans, and at this point beating some foreigners is really only gonna get him 10th place or so wirh more and more koreans coming over. These are Idra's last 15 games vs koreans
L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L
Yup, 15 losses in a row to koreans. His skill is becoming irrelevant at this point.
Alvalanker
Profile Joined July 2011
United States253 Posts
August 01 2011 18:20 GMT
#15775
On August 02 2011 03:13 Zane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 03:01 Alvalanker wrote:
Day9 or some older American player needs to have a child and raise him to be a SC2 player lol. That is our only hope.

But the mother has to be korean, there's no other way.

LMAO...

I think Tasteless has a Korean girlfriend, maybe his child will be the chosen one.

The fragile art of existence is kept alive by sheer persistence.
Alvalanker
Profile Joined July 2011
United States253 Posts
August 01 2011 18:22 GMT
#15776
On August 02 2011 03:20 Jinivus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 03:04 arfyron wrote:
On August 02 2011 02:28 Topdoller wrote:

The days of Idra and Co are coming to an end. They simply don't have it to make it to the top lvl of this game.

Incontrol, Machine, Idra etc are good players but they need to step it up if they want to compete. Its either that or stick to charging lessons for $30 an hour on the streams

QxC, HuK and Naniwa has potential out of all the foreigners to make it as top class pros, and to be honest if you want to make it you gonna have to move to Korea and play in the toughest league to do it.Its not a race thing its a skill thing.


It's ridiculous to lump Idra with machine and incontrol and you know it. Idra was the best foreigner at the last MLG and nani won his MLG when the competition was much worse. Why can Idra not adapt and get better but QxC who isn't even in Code A yet can? Use some actually arguments instead of generalizations.


On August 02 2011 03:03 Alvalanker wrote:
Was LoSira invited to MLG Anaheim or did he just choose not to come?


I would bet that he was invited but turned it down to focus on Code S.

Yeah Idra is obviously better than machine and incontrol but he's not doing any better vs koreans, and at this point beating some foreigners is really only gonna get him 10th place or so wirh more and more koreans coming over. These are Idra's last 15 games vs koreans
L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L
Yup, 15 losses in a row to koreans. His skill is becoming irrelevant at this point.

WTF are you talking about, IdrA had MMA BEATEN!! And we all know it! And IdrA has also beaten SlayerS_Boxer before!! Look it up!
The fragile art of existence is kept alive by sheer persistence.
Jinivus
Profile Joined July 2011
747 Posts
August 01 2011 18:23 GMT
#15777
On August 02 2011 03:22 Alvalanker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 03:20 Jinivus wrote:
On August 02 2011 03:04 arfyron wrote:
On August 02 2011 02:28 Topdoller wrote:

The days of Idra and Co are coming to an end. They simply don't have it to make it to the top lvl of this game.

Incontrol, Machine, Idra etc are good players but they need to step it up if they want to compete. Its either that or stick to charging lessons for $30 an hour on the streams

QxC, HuK and Naniwa has potential out of all the foreigners to make it as top class pros, and to be honest if you want to make it you gonna have to move to Korea and play in the toughest league to do it.Its not a race thing its a skill thing.


It's ridiculous to lump Idra with machine and incontrol and you know it. Idra was the best foreigner at the last MLG and nani won his MLG when the competition was much worse. Why can Idra not adapt and get better but QxC who isn't even in Code A yet can? Use some actually arguments instead of generalizations.


On August 02 2011 03:03 Alvalanker wrote:
Was LoSira invited to MLG Anaheim or did he just choose not to come?


I would bet that he was invited but turned it down to focus on Code S.

Yeah Idra is obviously better than machine and incontrol but he's not doing any better vs koreans, and at this point beating some foreigners is really only gonna get him 10th place or so wirh more and more koreans coming over. These are Idra's last 15 games vs koreans
L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L
Yup, 15 losses in a row to koreans. His skill is becoming irrelevant at this point.

WTF are you talking about, IdrA had MMA BEATEN!! And we all know it! And IdrA has also beaten SlayerS_Boxer before!! Look it up!

Sarcasm or troll? Everything I said about his losses were 100 percent true.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
August 01 2011 18:24 GMT
#15778
On August 02 2011 03:22 Alvalanker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 03:20 Jinivus wrote:
On August 02 2011 03:04 arfyron wrote:
On August 02 2011 02:28 Topdoller wrote:

The days of Idra and Co are coming to an end. They simply don't have it to make it to the top lvl of this game.

Incontrol, Machine, Idra etc are good players but they need to step it up if they want to compete. Its either that or stick to charging lessons for $30 an hour on the streams

QxC, HuK and Naniwa has potential out of all the foreigners to make it as top class pros, and to be honest if you want to make it you gonna have to move to Korea and play in the toughest league to do it.Its not a race thing its a skill thing.


It's ridiculous to lump Idra with machine and incontrol and you know it. Idra was the best foreigner at the last MLG and nani won his MLG when the competition was much worse. Why can Idra not adapt and get better but QxC who isn't even in Code A yet can? Use some actually arguments instead of generalizations.


On August 02 2011 03:03 Alvalanker wrote:
Was LoSira invited to MLG Anaheim or did he just choose not to come?


I would bet that he was invited but turned it down to focus on Code S.

Yeah Idra is obviously better than machine and incontrol but he's not doing any better vs koreans, and at this point beating some foreigners is really only gonna get him 10th place or so wirh more and more koreans coming over. These are Idra's last 15 games vs koreans
L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L
Yup, 15 losses in a row to koreans. His skill is becoming irrelevant at this point.

WTF are you talking about, IdrA had MMA BEATEN!! And we all know it! And IdrA has also beaten SlayerS_Boxer before!! Look it up!

Idra nearly took a game off MMA, therefore Idra can hold his own versus Koreans?
Alvalanker
Profile Joined July 2011
United States253 Posts
August 01 2011 18:28 GMT
#15779
On August 02 2011 03:24 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 03:22 Alvalanker wrote:
On August 02 2011 03:20 Jinivus wrote:
On August 02 2011 03:04 arfyron wrote:
On August 02 2011 02:28 Topdoller wrote:

The days of Idra and Co are coming to an end. They simply don't have it to make it to the top lvl of this game.

Incontrol, Machine, Idra etc are good players but they need to step it up if they want to compete. Its either that or stick to charging lessons for $30 an hour on the streams

QxC, HuK and Naniwa has potential out of all the foreigners to make it as top class pros, and to be honest if you want to make it you gonna have to move to Korea and play in the toughest league to do it.Its not a race thing its a skill thing.


It's ridiculous to lump Idra with machine and incontrol and you know it. Idra was the best foreigner at the last MLG and nani won his MLG when the competition was much worse. Why can Idra not adapt and get better but QxC who isn't even in Code A yet can? Use some actually arguments instead of generalizations.


On August 02 2011 03:03 Alvalanker wrote:
Was LoSira invited to MLG Anaheim or did he just choose not to come?


I would bet that he was invited but turned it down to focus on Code S.

Yeah Idra is obviously better than machine and incontrol but he's not doing any better vs koreans, and at this point beating some foreigners is really only gonna get him 10th place or so wirh more and more koreans coming over. These are Idra's last 15 games vs koreans
L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L
Yup, 15 losses in a row to koreans. His skill is becoming irrelevant at this point.

WTF are you talking about, IdrA had MMA BEATEN!! And we all know it! And IdrA has also beaten SlayerS_Boxer before!! Look it up!

Idra nearly took a game off MMA, therefore Idra can hold his own versus Koreans?


I am a bit of a noob to the Pro SC2 scene but I have been playing StarCraft since 2004. But I haven't seen many other NA players beat a guy like MMA (even though IdrA left the game).

I really just want something to look forward to, I will always follow SC but I may have some false hopes for IdrA because I want SO BAD for a NA player to be a top 10 SC2 player in the world.
The fragile art of existence is kept alive by sheer persistence.
Jinivus
Profile Joined July 2011
747 Posts
August 01 2011 18:29 GMT
#15780
On August 02 2011 03:28 Alvalanker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 03:24 ZAiNs wrote:
On August 02 2011 03:22 Alvalanker wrote:
On August 02 2011 03:20 Jinivus wrote:
On August 02 2011 03:04 arfyron wrote:
On August 02 2011 02:28 Topdoller wrote:

The days of Idra and Co are coming to an end. They simply don't have it to make it to the top lvl of this game.

Incontrol, Machine, Idra etc are good players but they need to step it up if they want to compete. Its either that or stick to charging lessons for $30 an hour on the streams

QxC, HuK and Naniwa has potential out of all the foreigners to make it as top class pros, and to be honest if you want to make it you gonna have to move to Korea and play in the toughest league to do it.Its not a race thing its a skill thing.


It's ridiculous to lump Idra with machine and incontrol and you know it. Idra was the best foreigner at the last MLG and nani won his MLG when the competition was much worse. Why can Idra not adapt and get better but QxC who isn't even in Code A yet can? Use some actually arguments instead of generalizations.


On August 02 2011 03:03 Alvalanker wrote:
Was LoSira invited to MLG Anaheim or did he just choose not to come?


I would bet that he was invited but turned it down to focus on Code S.

Yeah Idra is obviously better than machine and incontrol but he's not doing any better vs koreans, and at this point beating some foreigners is really only gonna get him 10th place or so wirh more and more koreans coming over. These are Idra's last 15 games vs koreans
L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L
Yup, 15 losses in a row to koreans. His skill is becoming irrelevant at this point.

WTF are you talking about, IdrA had MMA BEATEN!! And we all know it! And IdrA has also beaten SlayerS_Boxer before!! Look it up!

Idra nearly took a game off MMA, therefore Idra can hold his own versus Koreans?


I am a bit of a noob to the Pro SC2 scene but I have been playing StarCraft since 2004. But I haven't seen many other NA players beat a guy like MMA (even though IdrA left the game).

I really just want something to look forward to, I will always follow SC but I may have some false hopes for IdrA because I want SO BAD for a NA player to be a top 10 SC2 player in the world.

perhaps hope for a player that isn't 0-15 vs koreans in recent games. Huk for example.
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