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xXFireandIceXx
Canada4296 Posts
On July 28 2011 21:56 Tuczniak wrote: Hopefully it won't be like Rets 15minutes at NASL. And Ret is surely not a bad player. it won't be cuz at MLG, it's not single elimination. there's a loser's bracket | ||
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dar5283
United States65 Posts
On July 29 2011 01:45 Trowa127 wrote: Do you honestly think pro players are going to watch someone like Destiny stream? You have to remember he hasn't won *anything* ever. People don't see him as a threat, so they get caught off guard. We'll see what happenes at MLG as I said. As a side note - 'UHH OHHH BOOBLORDSS!' You act like people who don't watch his stream, don't know how he plays... | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On July 29 2011 00:53 kedinik wrote: That's true but not really relevant doodsmack, since terran has good tools for wiping out protoss and zerg detectors and cloak + scan + range advantage gives a micro edge to ghosts. It's not an auto-win button ofc but it's a bit easier to wipe observers/overseers and spot for emp's with scan than it is to fight against that. So you're admitting that without cloak, sniping overseers, and having plenty of scans available, ghosts are ineffective against infestors? | ||
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Megiddosc
United States966 Posts
1 Ghost being a-moved will not be able to completely annihilate an infestor threat. | ||
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dar5283
United States65 Posts
On July 29 2011 02:24 Doodsmack wrote: So you're admitting that without cloak, sniping overseers, and having plenty of scans available, ghosts are ineffective against infestors? I'm not sure how you came to that assumption. Ghost with energy are effective against Infestors, and the entire Protoss army. Ghost out range the other spellcasters, and even outrange vision. I hope you aren't arguing that ghosts are useless... | ||
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kedinik
United States352 Posts
On July 29 2011 02:24 Doodsmack wrote: So you're admitting that without cloak, sniping overseers, and having plenty of scans available, ghosts are ineffective against infestors? Well sure fair enough. But please do consider that ghosts have a great supporting toolset if you use them correctly. | ||
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Halcyondaze
United States509 Posts
Once this style is Figured out Destiny will sadly become just a streamer and a personality once again. | ||
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Sleight
2471 Posts
Sure Ghosts can reduce the Infestors impact, and people going Mech prevents Ling Infestor, but even so... Destiny is playing better than ever. Let's expect the best. | ||
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kedinik
United States352 Posts
2 rax expand with only a few scv's pulled, 4 hellion pressure into expo into delayed cloaked banshees, 2 rax no pressure expand... | ||
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hmunkey
United Kingdom1973 Posts
On July 29 2011 03:20 Sleight wrote: I disagree with the "Destiny's success will be surprised dependent." Sure, it HELPS when people aren't used to Ling-Infestor, but look at the Showmatch with Rain. Rain metagamed the shit out of him after the first 2 games and Destiny with toe to toe with a Top Terran who played the most abusive game he could and WON. Sure Ghosts can reduce the Infestors impact, and people going Mech prevents Ling Infestor, but even so... Destiny is playing better than ever. Let's expect the best. He did just lose 1st round in IPL and then 1st round in IPL loser bracket, and both losses were against pretty low-level players. He's doing well, but not really better than ever. At least I hope that's not his better than ever performance. | ||
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dar5283
United States65 Posts
On July 29 2011 03:38 hmunkey wrote: He did just lose 1st round in IPL and then 1st round in IPL loser bracket, and both losses were against pretty low-level players. He's doing well, but not really better than ever. At least I hope that's not his better than ever performance. You do realize how long ago those games were played, right? | ||
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Mioraka
Canada1353 Posts
On July 29 2011 01:45 Trowa127 wrote: Do you honestly think pro players are going to watch someone like Destiny stream? You have to remember he hasn't won *anything* ever. People don't see him as a threat, so they get caught off guard. We'll see what happenes at MLG as I said. As a side note - 'UHH OHHH BOOBLORDSS!' LOL watch the IPL before you talk, please. | ||
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Trowa127
United Kingdom1230 Posts
On July 29 2011 02:00 dar5283 wrote: You act like people who don't watch his stream, don't know how he plays... Ok let me put this into perspective. Your going into the open bracket of MLG - you look at the bracket, you see players like Alicia, Ganzi, Jinro, Tyler, Rain, DDE, Vibe, Major, DeMulism.. Pretty long list right? Do you think people are going to analyze his play over players who are much more 'obviously' dangerous? And I did watch the IPL - I posted about his results in the IPL on the first and second pages. Can you not read? He lost in Winners and Losers bracket round 1. Mioraka, kinda supports my point when I say he hasn't won anything when he gets knocked out in the first round of the tournament you told me to watch eh? I'm not even taking away from Destiny - hes a good player, he has good strategy's but people are making him out to be the new Nestea and it just isn't the case. | ||
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Mioraka
Canada1353 Posts
On July 29 2011 03:14 Halcyondaze wrote: I think it's pretty obvious that Destiny's new style is the key to his recent success. And with new styles comes a "Surprise factor". People WILL figure this out, and I think it was very stupid of him to showcase this new style before MLG. He could of really done well at MLG, but I think everybody and their mother knows about this mass infestor style of his and will be well prepared for it. Once this style is Figured out Destiny will sadly become just a streamer and a personality once again. He has been doing this style for the past 2 months. Andddd, if his first priority is to make money to feed his family, and streaming for 2 weeks means he makes more than getting first in MLG. Why would he sacrifice streaming time and guaranteed income for a chance to get 5 thousand dollars in MLG? | ||
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dar5283
United States65 Posts
On July 29 2011 03:55 Trowa127 wrote: Ok let me put this into perspective. Your going into the open bracket of MLG - you look at the bracket, you see players like Alicia, Ganzi, Jinro, Tyler, Rain, DDE, Vibe, Major, DeMulism.. Pretty long list right? Do you think people are going to analyze his play over players who are much more 'obviously' dangerous? And I did watch the IPL - I posted about his results in the IPL on the first and second pages. Can you not read? He lost in Winners and Losers bracket round 1. I'm not even taking away from Destiny - hes a good player, he has good strategy's but people are making him out to be the new Nestea and it just isn't the case. EVERYONE KNOWS DESTINY'S PLAYSTYLE. You don't need to spend time analyzing anything. He bets mass infestors... anyone, and everyone in the open bracket should, and do know this. I hope everything after the first paragraph wasn't directed towards me, if it was, I'm not sure why. | ||
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Trowa127
United Kingdom1230 Posts
On July 29 2011 04:00 dar5283 wrote: EVERYONE KNOWS DESTINY'S PLAYSTYLE. You don't need to spend time analyzing anything. He bets mass infestors... anyone, and everyone in the open bracket should, and do know this. I hope everything after the first paragraph wasn't directed towards me, if it was, I'm not sure why. It wasn't, the poster above me commented on me 'not watching the IPL' when I'd clearly commented on his play in the IPL on the first page. Mioraka seems to not have eyes. | ||
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Mioraka
Canada1353 Posts
On July 29 2011 03:55 Trowa127 wrote: Ok let me put this into perspective. Your going into the open bracket of MLG - you look at the bracket, you see players like Alicia, Ganzi, Jinro, Tyler, Rain, DDE, Vibe, Major, DeMulism.. Pretty long list right? Do you think people are going to analyze his play over players who are much more 'obviously' dangerous? And I did watch the IPL - I posted about his results in the IPL on the first and second pages. Can you not read? He lost in Winners and Losers bracket round 1. Mioraka, kinda supports my point when I say he hasn't won anything when he gets knocked out in the first round of the tournament you told me to watch eh? I'm not even taking away from Destiny - hes a good player, he has good strategy's but people are making him out to be the new Nestea and it just isn't the case. Why are you mixing up posts? Do you honestly think pro players are going to watch someone like Destiny stream? Please, reading the LR thread =/= you watched IPL. Anyone watched the Socke vs Destiny would obviously know Socke watched a shit ton of destiny's games. If Socke didn't analyze his games...........do you think he would go straight for HT on two base to counter Infestor? Do you think he would build a cannon on the high ground behind XNC's third, just to stop sneaky infestor play? As far as I know Socke doesn't do that against any other zerg. The score was 2-1, the games were extremely close. Yeah he lost in LR, but axlarv cannon rushed like a true Incontrol teammate... No one is saying Destiny is nestea level, no one is even saying he's the best NA zerg, but can he compete with top level pros? I think he already did several times. | ||
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Influ
Germany780 Posts
The fanbois are annoyed that destiny doesn't get the respect that he deserves and hype him even more wich makes the haters hate even more. | ||
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Trowa127
United Kingdom1230 Posts
And I'm not mixing up posts, I'm avoiding a double post by replying to two people in the same post. And to clarify ONCE AGAIN as you can't seem to understand this - I DONT THINK DESTINY IS BAD. I THINK HE IS GOOD. I just think there are large holes in his play that can and will be exploited, and that explain his lack of success in tournaments! If he clears out at MLG, I'll eat my own words and pm you an apology. | ||
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lowkontrast
United States855 Posts
On July 29 2011 03:46 dar5283 wrote: You do realize how long ago those games were played, right? That's my biggest gripe with IPL, it makes up and coming players who played those games a long time ago look very inconsistent.  | ||
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