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Stay positive, be happy and enjoy the event. Caster bashing and player bashing? Too much whining? Uh-oh!
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
August 04 2011 12:47 GMT
#581
SWITZERLAND OWNS YOU ALL! biGs fighting!
jk, stop the nation war. I'm rooting for biGs, he played some nice games lately. And he's the only SC2 progamer in Switzerland^^
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
August 04 2011 12:47 GMT
#582
3x x-positions on huge maps for Merz. Not a good position for a TvZ lol :<
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
Pirat6662001
Profile Joined January 2011
Russian Federation949 Posts
August 04 2011 12:47 GMT
#583
On August 04 2011 21:45 constantqt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 21:42 Azarkon wrote:
On August 04 2011 21:39 phisku wrote:
On August 04 2011 21:36 Pirat6662001 wrote:
On August 04 2011 21:34 BobMcJohnson wrote:
On August 04 2011 21:30 legaton wrote:
Nice game from Sarens, France is a solid pick for third SC2 nation behind Korea and Sweden.

Mhh no, Ukraine and Germany are definitely in front of us frenchies

+ US with Idra, Sheth, qxc, Kiwi is definitely 4-5th before france.

kiwi... -.- not sure if stupid or trolling.


If he replaced the US with NA, he'd be right

The US has some great players, and was probably the third best performing country, but lately it's in a bit of a slump. Even so, Idra, Tyler, Qxc, Sheth, etc. can all hold their own, even against top Europeans.


only idra can

Sheth has been doing amazing lately
So.. this Earth, nice planet you might say- WRONG!!
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 12:48:48
August 04 2011 12:48 GMT
#584
On August 04 2011 21:44 Xoronius wrote:
I would not underestimate France, they have Sarens, who often win the french events and does not appear international very often, Stephano, who is a beast, ToD, who recently beat Alicia, Adelscott,MoMan,Aures. I didn´t recognize, that the french scene did grow so much but they are actually really good and I would put them ahead of us (Germany).

The german scene still looks a bit stronger to me: Hasuobs, Socke, Goody, Darkforce, Xlord, TLO, Delphi...

But ultimately its impossible to tell which is stronger, its more like a matter of opinion.
JayJay_90
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1632 Posts
August 04 2011 12:48 GMT
#585
On August 04 2011 21:42 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 21:39 phisku wrote:
On August 04 2011 21:36 Pirat6662001 wrote:
On August 04 2011 21:34 BobMcJohnson wrote:
On August 04 2011 21:30 legaton wrote:
Nice game from Sarens, France is a solid pick for third SC2 nation behind Korea and Sweden.

Mhh no, Ukraine and Germany are definitely in front of us frenchies

+ US with Idra, Sheth, qxc, Kiwi is definitely 4-5th before france.

kiwi... -.- not sure if stupid or trolling.


If he replaced the US with NA, he'd be right

The US has some great players, and was probably the third best performing country, but lately it's in a bit of a slump. Even so, Idra, Tyler, Qxc, Sheth, etc. can all hold their own, even against top Europeans.

Idra and Sheth yes. Tyler? No, no no! No way! Qxc maybe since he's training in Korea, but I'm not 100% convinced. Last time i saw him play against good EU players, he got destroyed.
I have no idea why you think USA was the third best performing country.
ramelle83
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland11 Posts
August 04 2011 12:48 GMT
#586
On August 04 2011 21:43 AIOL! wrote:
I'm french and i must agree we a fuckin nation of retards always saying fr > this one, cause in fact we bad at everything and this guy forgot to mention poland wich is a verry strong nation in sc2, better than germany by far imo. (but its right with adel, stephano, tod and sarens we are pretty good


when you compare whole countries you obviously have to pick more than 3 players to compare them;) so yes, germany is still the better sc2-country but nerchio and tarson are ahead tho.
Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
August 04 2011 12:48 GMT
#587
On August 04 2011 21:42 Toxi78 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 21:39 Kevan wrote:
On August 04 2011 21:36 Pirat6662001 wrote:
On August 04 2011 21:34 BobMcJohnson wrote:
On August 04 2011 21:30 legaton wrote:
Nice game from Sarens, France is a solid pick for third SC2 nation behind Korea and Sweden.

Mhh no, Ukraine and Germany are definitely in front of us frenchies

+ US with Idra, Sheth, qxc, Kiwi is definitely 4-5th before france.


Kiwi is from Canada?They also have Huk, Slush, TT1 and DDE so they're also better than France.


TT1 slush and dde are nowhere near the level of sarens adel tod stephano.
i mean REALLY, nowhere around this level.



TT1 isn't really good anymore but Slush and DDE are slightly better than those imo. And Huk would all-kill them. Even Drewbie would be able to beat them.
SC2, rip in pepperinos
legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
August 04 2011 12:48 GMT
#588
I will accept to downgrade our position to fifth

Mewww game between Merz and Morrow. Even if i'm terran, i hate the two hellions harass into cloaked banshee.
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
August 04 2011 12:49 GMT
#589
On August 04 2011 21:47 EmilA wrote:
3x x-positions on huge maps for Merz. Not a good position for a TvZ lol :<


he's doing really well for such unfortunate positions. I think he's going to take the series. Bummer that he's allready out if i'm not mistaken
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
August 04 2011 12:49 GMT
#590
On August 04 2011 21:46 ramelle83 wrote:
why the people still discuss about the nations?
of course germany is better
germany won the euro nation war and with players like socke,hasu,darkforce,goody,xlord they are ahead indeed.what have tod,sarens or adel achieved?not a lot.darkforce and hasu have been at the nasl finals and he won against sjow and nani(2-0).hasu won the esl tournament where thorzain couldnt reach anything and goody is in almost EVERY online cup in the final.
its not a new thing that the top 3 are ukraine,sweden and germany and then poland and france.
you can discuss what you want.the top 3 in europe are fixed.

Coming from a Toss player...Thorzain is better than Hasu. He is without a doubt the best non-korean Terran right now.

Just because he didn't make it through doesn't mean he is worse, people have bad luck. Naniwa lost to Slush last MLG but that doesn't mean Slush is better.
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
August 04 2011 12:51 GMT
#591
On August 04 2011 21:47 Pirat6662001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 21:45 constantqt wrote:
On August 04 2011 21:42 Azarkon wrote:
On August 04 2011 21:39 phisku wrote:
On August 04 2011 21:36 Pirat6662001 wrote:
On August 04 2011 21:34 BobMcJohnson wrote:
On August 04 2011 21:30 legaton wrote:
Nice game from Sarens, France is a solid pick for third SC2 nation behind Korea and Sweden.

Mhh no, Ukraine and Germany are definitely in front of us frenchies

+ US with Idra, Sheth, qxc, Kiwi is definitely 4-5th before france.

kiwi... -.- not sure if stupid or trolling.


If he replaced the US with NA, he'd be right

The US has some great players, and was probably the third best performing country, but lately it's in a bit of a slump. Even so, Idra, Tyler, Qxc, Sheth, etc. can all hold their own, even against top Europeans.


only idra can

Sheth has been doing amazing lately


At MLG he wasn´t so amazing. I don´t think, Sheth is at the Level of Top-Euros or Top-Americans.
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
August 04 2011 12:52 GMT
#592
On August 04 2011 21:43 EmilA wrote:
Merz is just one step ahead in the early game, but unlucky with double cross positions


To get back to the games:

tell a toss-player why cross is worse than close air for easy muta-harassment?
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
August 04 2011 12:52 GMT
#593
On August 04 2011 21:49 DoXa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 21:47 EmilA wrote:
3x x-positions on huge maps for Merz. Not a good position for a TvZ lol :<


he's doing really well for such unfortunate positions. I think he's going to take the series. Bummer that he's allready out if i'm not mistaken


Think you're right about him being out. But 2x starport is a total frustration move.
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
August 04 2011 12:52 GMT
#594
Great! One random comment and everybody is going crazy about the nation ranking! -.-
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
Mioraka
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada1353 Posts
August 04 2011 12:52 GMT
#595
.....Ok, nothing against Apollo, but he really doesn't know what he's talking about.....
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
August 04 2011 12:53 GMT
#596
On August 04 2011 21:48 Kevan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 21:42 Toxi78 wrote:
On August 04 2011 21:39 Kevan wrote:
On August 04 2011 21:36 Pirat6662001 wrote:
On August 04 2011 21:34 BobMcJohnson wrote:
On August 04 2011 21:30 legaton wrote:
Nice game from Sarens, France is a solid pick for third SC2 nation behind Korea and Sweden.

Mhh no, Ukraine and Germany are definitely in front of us frenchies

+ US with Idra, Sheth, qxc, Kiwi is definitely 4-5th before france.


Kiwi is from Canada?They also have Huk, Slush, TT1 and DDE so they're also better than France.


TT1 slush and dde are nowhere near the level of sarens adel tod stephano.
i mean REALLY, nowhere around this level.



TT1 isn't really good anymore but Slush and DDE are slightly better than those imo. And Huk would all-kill them. Even Drewbie would be able to beat them.

I don't care about the country shit, but saying that HuK would allkill Sarens, Adel, ToD AND Stephano is just ridiculously biased, he would not.
Also, Slush & DDE are on their level, not above, not under it, just their level. And Drewbie is far from their level, don't be ridiculous..
It appears I have been chosen.
Xivsa
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1009 Posts
August 04 2011 12:53 GMT
#597
On August 04 2011 21:51 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 21:47 Pirat6662001 wrote:
On August 04 2011 21:45 constantqt wrote:
On August 04 2011 21:42 Azarkon wrote:
On August 04 2011 21:39 phisku wrote:
On August 04 2011 21:36 Pirat6662001 wrote:
On August 04 2011 21:34 BobMcJohnson wrote:
On August 04 2011 21:30 legaton wrote:
Nice game from Sarens, France is a solid pick for third SC2 nation behind Korea and Sweden.

Mhh no, Ukraine and Germany are definitely in front of us frenchies

+ US with Idra, Sheth, qxc, Kiwi is definitely 4-5th before france.

kiwi... -.- not sure if stupid or trolling.


If he replaced the US with NA, he'd be right

The US has some great players, and was probably the third best performing country, but lately it's in a bit of a slump. Even so, Idra, Tyler, Qxc, Sheth, etc. can all hold their own, even against top Europeans.


only idra can

Sheth has been doing amazing lately


At MLG he wasn´t so amazing. I don´t think, Sheth is at the Level of Top-Euros or Top-Americans.


Sheth had at least a couple victories in Korea when he was still with FXO. For sure, he's considered one of the top Americans atm, part of the reason why TL was eager to recruit him. Given the dearth of results from Americans overall, Sheth is up there, his most MLG notwithstanding.
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. - Bilbo
ramelle83
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland11 Posts
August 04 2011 12:53 GMT
#598
On August 04 2011 21:49 Dommk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 21:46 ramelle83 wrote:
why the people still discuss about the nations?
of course germany is better
germany won the euro nation war and with players like socke,hasu,darkforce,goody,xlord they are ahead indeed.what have tod,sarens or adel achieved?not a lot.darkforce and hasu have been at the nasl finals and he won against sjow and nani(2-0).hasu won the esl tournament where thorzain couldnt reach anything and goody is in almost EVERY online cup in the final.
its not a new thing that the top 3 are ukraine,sweden and germany and then poland and france.
you can discuss what you want.the top 3 in europe are fixed.

Coming from a Toss player...Thorzain is better than Hasu. He is without a doubt the best non-korean Terran right now.

Just because he didn't make it through doesn't mean he is worse, people have bad luck. Naniwa lost to Slush last MLG but that doesn't mean Slush is better.


oh jesus cant you read? the topic is about comparing germany and france....
but offtopic: your thorzain hasnt achieved a lot since tsl
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 12:55:45
August 04 2011 12:53 GMT
#599
On August 04 2011 21:52 sleepingdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 21:43 EmilA wrote:
Merz is just one step ahead in the early game, but unlucky with double cross positions


To get back to the games:

tell a toss-player why cross is worse than close air for easy muta-harassment?

My guess is that it becomes easier for Zerg to defend against timing attacks and get into the late game where Brood Infestor rolls Terran :X?


oh jesus cant you read? the topic is about comparing germany and france....
but offtopic: your thorzain hasnt achieved a lot since tsl

The way you wrote it, it came off as Thorzain is some random scrub :/ He isn't. Naniwa hasn't done much other than MLG in the last few months either, (Thorzain said he didn't like going, found it uncomfortable), both of them are preparing for Korea
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
August 04 2011 12:55 GMT
#600
On August 04 2011 21:52 sleepingdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 21:43 EmilA wrote:
Merz is just one step ahead in the early game, but unlucky with double cross positions


To get back to the games:

tell a toss-player why cross is worse than close air for easy muta-harassment?

Pushing with tanks on Tal'darim Altar cross map for example is a nightmare: The zerg can occupy one of the 4 watchtowers, see it coming and attack at the perfect time with the perfect flank. Leapfrogging tanks takes forever too.

With close positions you only have 1 watchtower in your way, and the distance is much shorter.
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