On July 17 2011 03:06 PartyBiscuit wrote: Is anyone following Nerchio vs deezer?
Karak was going to cast the game, but Nerchio didn't want it cast due to perhaps some potential stream cheating issues...and it's pretty hard to blame him for that.
On July 17 2011 01:48 CosmicSpiral wrote: This should be Nerchio's Open to lose.
Meaning he is the favorite to win ... ? Hmm I strongly disagree given the sign ups. Not sure what you mean.
He should be the favorite to win, a little ahead of Strelok and HwangSin. The Korean representation isn't quite as strong as last time.
I disagree with your post. I feel that players like Check, SlayersGolden, ZeNEXHack, and BBongBBongPrime are all fully capable of beating nerchio in any stage of the competition.
But I wouldn't put any of them, even Hack, above Nerchio at this point in time. He's a top-tier European up with Thorzain and Naniwa at the moment.
Let's not overdo the fanboyism and ridiculous expectations, shall we?
Hmmm? It's not like any of those Korean players are top-tier, and Nerchio is very good.
Please don't throw around ad hominems. I'm not a "fan" of Nerchio even if I respect his play. I save my fanboy squeals for Jaedong.
It's not an ad hominem. Everyone always does this just because a player happens to have mild success in the foreign scene. It happens all the time. Moon is, or at least was, terrible by Korean pro standards. At the same time he still destroys foreigners like it was nothing. These Korean players are absolutely nothing to scoff at, not even by Korean standards.
On July 17 2011 01:48 CosmicSpiral wrote: This should be Nerchio's Open to lose.
Meaning he is the favorite to win ... ? Hmm I strongly disagree given the sign ups. Not sure what you mean.
He should be the favorite to win, a little ahead of Strelok and HwangSin. The Korean representation isn't quite as strong as last time.
I disagree with your post. I feel that players like Check, SlayersGolden, ZeNEXHack, and BBongBBongPrime are all fully capable of beating nerchio in any stage of the competition.
But I wouldn't put any of them, even Hack, above Nerchio at this point in time. He's a top-tier European up with Thorzain and Naniwa at the moment.
Let's not overdo the fanboyism and ridiculous expectations, shall we?
Hmmm? It's not like any of those Korean players are top-tier, and Nerchio is very good.
Please don't throw around ad hominems. I'm not a "fan" of Nerchio even if I respect his play. I save my fanboy squeals for Jaedong.
It's not an ad hominem. Everyone always does this just because a player happens to have mild success in the foreign scene. It happens all the time. Moon is, or at least was, terrible by Korean pro standards. At the same time he still destroys foreigners like it was nothing. These Korean players are absolutely nothing to scoff at, not even by Korean standards.
This is not a lan and therefore you have to take lag into consideration and Nerchio have had a lot more than "mild success" lately.
On July 17 2011 01:48 CosmicSpiral wrote: This should be Nerchio's Open to lose.
Meaning he is the favorite to win ... ? Hmm I strongly disagree given the sign ups. Not sure what you mean.
He should be the favorite to win, a little ahead of Strelok and HwangSin. The Korean representation isn't quite as strong as last time.
I disagree with your post. I feel that players like Check, SlayersGolden, ZeNEXHack, and BBongBBongPrime are all fully capable of beating nerchio in any stage of the competition.
But I wouldn't put any of them, even Hack, above Nerchio at this point in time. He's a top-tier European up with Thorzain and Naniwa at the moment.
He can't be a top tier player with a vP as dodgy as his.
aside: is there no bracket/stream info etc?
eta: wow catz just refused to leave a game making the guy destroy his last building haha. Never seen a pro do that.
On July 17 2011 01:48 CosmicSpiral wrote: This should be Nerchio's Open to lose.
Meaning he is the favorite to win ... ? Hmm I strongly disagree given the sign ups. Not sure what you mean.
He should be the favorite to win, a little ahead of Strelok and HwangSin. The Korean representation isn't quite as strong as last time.
I disagree with your post. I feel that players like Check, SlayersGolden, ZeNEXHack, and BBongBBongPrime are all fully capable of beating nerchio in any stage of the competition.
But I wouldn't put any of them, even Hack, above Nerchio at this point in time. He's a top-tier European up with Thorzain and Naniwa at the moment.
Let's not overdo the fanboyism and ridiculous expectations, shall we?
Hmmm? It's not like any of those Korean players are top-tier, and Nerchio is very good.
Keep it in perspective. Even the best foreigners have not beaten these B class players from Korea in the last few weeks of the TLOpen with any consistency. They keep taking the majority of the top spots.
Nerchio may be good, but the Koreans are better. The results show it.
I doubt all the "best foreigners" have been actually competing in the TLOpen. The only really notable ones here are Major, Nerchio, and Ret.
On July 17 2011 01:48 CosmicSpiral wrote: This should be Nerchio's Open to lose.
Meaning he is the favorite to win ... ? Hmm I strongly disagree given the sign ups. Not sure what you mean.
He should be the favorite to win, a little ahead of Strelok and HwangSin. The Korean representation isn't quite as strong as last time.
I disagree with your post. I feel that players like Check, SlayersGolden, ZeNEXHack, and BBongBBongPrime are all fully capable of beating nerchio in any stage of the competition.
But I wouldn't put any of them, even Hack, above Nerchio at this point in time. He's a top-tier European up with Thorzain and Naniwa at the moment.
Let's not overdo the fanboyism and ridiculous expectations, shall we?
Hmmm? It's not like any of those Korean players are top-tier, and Nerchio is very good.
Please don't throw around ad hominems. I'm not a "fan" of Nerchio even if I respect his play. I save my fanboy squeals for Jaedong.
It's not an ad hominem. Everyone always does this just because a player happens to have mild success in the foreign scene. It happens all the time. Moon is, or at least was, terrible by Korean pro standards. At the same time he still destroys foreigners like it was nothing. These Korean players are absolutely nothing to scoff at, not even by Korean standards.
This is not a lan and therefore you have to take lag into consideration and Nerchio have had a lot more than "mild success" lately.
I would classify even winning a LAN once, if it was only foreigners attending, as mild success. Consistency against Koreans is the only accurate measurement of anything Starcraft.
On July 17 2011 01:48 CosmicSpiral wrote: This should be Nerchio's Open to lose.
Meaning he is the favorite to win ... ? Hmm I strongly disagree given the sign ups. Not sure what you mean.
He should be the favorite to win, a little ahead of Strelok and HwangSin. The Korean representation isn't quite as strong as last time.
I disagree with your post. I feel that players like Check, SlayersGolden, ZeNEXHack, and BBongBBongPrime are all fully capable of beating nerchio in any stage of the competition.
But I wouldn't put any of them, even Hack, above Nerchio at this point in time. He's a top-tier European up with Thorzain and Naniwa at the moment.
Let's not overdo the fanboyism and ridiculous expectations, shall we?
Hmmm? It's not like any of those Korean players are top-tier, and Nerchio is very good.
Please don't throw around ad hominems. I'm not a "fan" of Nerchio even if I respect his play. I save my fanboy squeals for Jaedong.
It's not an ad hominem. Everyone always does this just because a player happens to have mild success in the foreign scene. It happens all the time. Moon is, or at least was, terrible by Korean pro standards. At the same time he still destroys foreigners like it was nothing. These Korean players are absolutely nothing to scoff at, not even by Korean standards.
This is not a lan and therefore you have to take lag into consideration and Nerchio have had a lot more than "mild success" lately.
Lag hasn't stopped the Koreans in the last few weeks...
On July 17 2011 03:14 CosmicSpiral wrote: As dodgy as...Losira's ZvT?
Well he's improved it lately it seems, but yes. Losira has/had a huge hole in his game which prevented him being top tier. Though still extremely good since his zvz/zvp are ridiculous.
I doubt all the "best foreigners" have been actually competing in the TLOpen. The only really notable ones here are Major, Nerchio, and Ret.
On July 17 2011 01:48 CosmicSpiral wrote: This should be Nerchio's Open to lose.
Meaning he is the favorite to win ... ? Hmm I strongly disagree given the sign ups. Not sure what you mean.
He should be the favorite to win, a little ahead of Strelok and HwangSin. The Korean representation isn't quite as strong as last time.
I disagree with your post. I feel that players like Check, SlayersGolden, ZeNEXHack, and BBongBBongPrime are all fully capable of beating nerchio in any stage of the competition.
But I wouldn't put any of them, even Hack, above Nerchio at this point in time. He's a top-tier European up with Thorzain and Naniwa at the moment.
Let's not overdo the fanboyism and ridiculous expectations, shall we?
Hmmm? It's not like any of those Korean players are top-tier, and Nerchio is very good.
Please don't throw around ad hominems. I'm not a "fan" of Nerchio even if I respect his play. I save my fanboy squeals for Jaedong.
It's not an ad hominem. Everyone always does this just because a player happens to have mild success in the foreign scene. It happens all the time. Moon is, or at least was, terrible by Korean pro standards. At the same time he still destroys foreigners like it was nothing. These Korean players are absolutely nothing to scoff at, not even by Korean standards.
It is an ad hominem because you're assuming that I'm one of those people. Considering my track record on players, connecting me with "fanboyism" is a pathetic joke.
On July 17 2011 01:48 CosmicSpiral wrote: This should be Nerchio's Open to lose.
Meaning he is the favorite to win ... ? Hmm I strongly disagree given the sign ups. Not sure what you mean.
He should be the favorite to win, a little ahead of Strelok and HwangSin. The Korean representation isn't quite as strong as last time.
I disagree with your post. I feel that players like Check, SlayersGolden, ZeNEXHack, and BBongBBongPrime are all fully capable of beating nerchio in any stage of the competition.
But I wouldn't put any of them, even Hack, above Nerchio at this point in time. He's a top-tier European up with Thorzain and Naniwa at the moment.
He can't be a top tier player with a vP as dodgy as his.
aside: is there no bracket/stream info etc?
eta: wow catz just refused to leave a game making the guy destroy his last building haha. Never seen a pro do that.
On July 17 2011 01:48 CosmicSpiral wrote: This should be Nerchio's Open to lose.
Meaning he is the favorite to win ... ? Hmm I strongly disagree given the sign ups. Not sure what you mean.
He should be the favorite to win, a little ahead of Strelok and HwangSin. The Korean representation isn't quite as strong as last time.
I disagree with your post. I feel that players like Check, SlayersGolden, ZeNEXHack, and BBongBBongPrime are all fully capable of beating nerchio in any stage of the competition.
But I wouldn't put any of them, even Hack, above Nerchio at this point in time. He's a top-tier European up with Thorzain and Naniwa at the moment.
Let's not overdo the fanboyism and ridiculous expectations, shall we?
Hmmm? It's not like any of those Korean players are top-tier, and Nerchio is very good.
Keep it in perspective. Even the best foreigners have not beaten these B class players from Korea in the last few weeks of the TLOpen with any consistency. They keep taking the majority of the top spots.
Nerchio may be good, but the Koreans are better. The results show it.
I doubt all the "best foreigners" have been actually competing in the TLOpen. The only really notable ones here are Major, Nerchio, and Ret.
What?!? And how about MaNa, MoMaN, Strelok, GoOdy, Machine, LaLush, DeMusliM?
On July 17 2011 01:48 CosmicSpiral wrote: This should be Nerchio's Open to lose.
Meaning he is the favorite to win ... ? Hmm I strongly disagree given the sign ups. Not sure what you mean.
He should be the favorite to win, a little ahead of Strelok and HwangSin. The Korean representation isn't quite as strong as last time.
I disagree with your post. I feel that players like Check, SlayersGolden, ZeNEXHack, and BBongBBongPrime are all fully capable of beating nerchio in any stage of the competition.
But I wouldn't put any of them, even Hack, above Nerchio at this point in time. He's a top-tier European up with Thorzain and Naniwa at the moment.
Let's not overdo the fanboyism and ridiculous expectations, shall we?
Hmmm? It's not like any of those Korean players are top-tier, and Nerchio is very good.
Please don't throw around ad hominems. I'm not a "fan" of Nerchio even if I respect his play. I save my fanboy squeals for Jaedong.
It's not an ad hominem. Everyone always does this just because a player happens to have mild success in the foreign scene. It happens all the time. Moon is, or at least was, terrible by Korean pro standards. At the same time he still destroys foreigners like it was nothing. These Korean players are absolutely nothing to scoff at, not even by Korean standards.
It is an ad hominem because you're assuming that I'm one of those people. Considering my track record on players, connecting me with "fanboyism" is a pathetic joke.
If you're that super sensitive about a word then you can tell yourself that the fanboyism part doesn't apply to you and just keep the "ridiculous expectations" part.
EPT
