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On July 11 2011 01:59 KobraKay wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 01:50 Otori wrote:On July 11 2011 01:48 KobraKay wrote:On July 11 2011 01:45 Otori wrote:
I'd like gretorp and iNControl to cast this, like them much better than tastosis tbh, I don't know what's with all the hate towards gretorp, he's genuinely awesome
Also hoping PuMa will take this, would be nice to see a terran beasting it up in an international tournament for once. GO PUMA! You mean like MLG ou TSL? =/ or IEM (morrow) or etc? I mean like the last 5 big international tournaments has been mostly dominated by protoss Thats true but thats not what you said before. Terrans usually win things. MLG Columbus is sure one of the last 5 big tournaments to be played (and TSL aswell, depending on what you consider big it should still be in the last 5 big tournaments). Yes protoss have been dominating a lot (T.T I hate P) but your first post made it sound like terran has troubles even placing a single result and thats what I responded to. I was just trying to point out that every tournament usually has at least one terran hero so having Puma in a final is not "for once" =/ just that...
Yeah, for me it's "for once" which was what I ment, I have not been a part of the sc2 community for very long and i'm sure terrans have dominated a lot of tournaments in the past, just the major ones i've recently seen has been completely dominated by protoss players, even the top 3 or top 4 in the homecome sc2 cup was pure toss, but yeah I failed to explain what I ment properly
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On July 11 2011 02:06 ProxyKnoxy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 02:03 theBOOCH wrote:
I think it's amusing that all of the Europeans etc are complaining about the times. All Euro and Korean tourneys start at somewhere between 2 am and 4 am for us in the Americas. But them tournaments actually have a lot of starcraft content in them? This is 4 hours content and 8 hours crap. We wouldn't (sorry to speak for everyone here) complain if the schedule wasn't terrible
THIS
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On July 11 2011 02:11 s3183529 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 02:06 ProxyKnoxy wrote:On July 11 2011 02:03 theBOOCH wrote:
I think it's amusing that all of the Europeans etc are complaining about the times. All Euro and Korean tourneys start at somewhere between 2 am and 4 am for us in the Americas. But them tournaments actually have a lot of starcraft content in them? This is 4 hours content and 8 hours crap. We wouldn't (sorry to speak for everyone here) complain if the schedule wasn't terrible THIS
If you think NASL has no content and is 8 hours of crap then why are you watching it?
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On July 11 2011 02:03 theBOOCH wrote:
I think it's amusing that all of the Europeans etc are complaining about the times. All Euro and Korean tourneys start at somewhere between 2 am and 4 am for us in the Americas.
But there's no reason it couldn't start earlier. They just want to have this extra fluff which I don't care about. The highest priority should always be about bringing games to the most people. But they seem to focus on using the popularity of SC2 to advertise some unrelated stuff. So most people would get to watch the ceremonies and the performance but not the actual games??? That's messed up especially when the VODS for a few days is 25.
I'm in the US right now and I really had no issue watching Dreamhack or the Homestory cup. GSL did mess up my sleep schedule but this scheduling really irritates me even if I'm CDT cause there's no good reasons for these delays.
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On July 11 2011 02:12 Creep wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 02:11 s3183529 wrote:On July 11 2011 02:06 ProxyKnoxy wrote:On July 11 2011 02:03 theBOOCH wrote:
I think it's amusing that all of the Europeans etc are complaining about the times. All Euro and Korean tourneys start at somewhere between 2 am and 4 am for us in the Americas. But them tournaments actually have a lot of starcraft content in them? This is 4 hours content and 8 hours crap. We wouldn't (sorry to speak for everyone here) complain if the schedule wasn't terrible THIS If you think NASL has no content and is 8 hours of crap then why are you watching it?
The other 2-3 hours of good games that come in between the 8hours of crap
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On July 11 2011 02:09 Otori wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 01:59 KobraKay wrote:On July 11 2011 01:50 Otori wrote:On July 11 2011 01:48 KobraKay wrote:On July 11 2011 01:45 Otori wrote:
I'd like gretorp and iNControl to cast this, like them much better than tastosis tbh, I don't know what's with all the hate towards gretorp, he's genuinely awesome
Also hoping PuMa will take this, would be nice to see a terran beasting it up in an international tournament for once. GO PUMA! You mean like MLG ou TSL? =/ or IEM (morrow) or etc? I mean like the last 5 big international tournaments has been mostly dominated by protoss Thats true but thats not what you said before. Terrans usually win things. MLG Columbus is sure one of the last 5 big tournaments to be played (and TSL aswell, depending on what you consider big it should still be in the last 5 big tournaments). Yes protoss have been dominating a lot (T.T I hate P) but your first post made it sound like terran has troubles even placing a single result and thats what I responded to. I was just trying to point out that every tournament usually has at least one terran hero so having Puma in a final is not "for once" =/ just that... Yeah, for me it's "for once" which was what I ment, I have not been a part of the sc2 community for very long and i'm sure terrans have dominated a lot of tournaments in the past, just the major ones i've recently seen has been completely dominated by protoss players, even the top 3 or top 4 in the homecome sc2 cup was pure toss, but yeah I failed to explain what I ment properly
Apart From Homestory and DH, protoss haven't been that strong apart from MC. GSL championships are pretty even spread out, and im pretty sure gsl was like 16 terrans/8 toss/7zerg or soemthing similar.
Terrans should use ghosts more and stop complainingg. Zerg are in good spot imo.
Edit: If we wanted to get serious, i could say that Terran and Zerg have huge amounts of talent coming out, while protoss are looking around for our up and comers like 'wtf'
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If the time is problematic, you can always watch the vods.
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On July 11 2011 02:12 Creep wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 02:11 s3183529 wrote:On July 11 2011 02:06 ProxyKnoxy wrote:On July 11 2011 02:03 theBOOCH wrote:
I think it's amusing that all of the Europeans etc are complaining about the times. All Euro and Korean tourneys start at somewhere between 2 am and 4 am for us in the Americas. But them tournaments actually have a lot of starcraft content in them? This is 4 hours content and 8 hours crap. We wouldn't (sorry to speak for everyone here) complain if the schedule wasn't terrible THIS If you think NASL has no content and is 8 hours of crap then why are you watching it?
Because we want too see the players do what they do best, PLAY SC2.
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OP was updated
12:00 PDT: Opening Ceremony/Musical Act and Entertainment
13:00 PDT to 15:00 PDT: Third Place Match (bo5)
15:00 PDT to 16:00 PDT: 1 hour break
16:00 PDT to 18:00 PDT: Finals (bo7)
18:00 PDT to 19:00 PDT: Award Ceremony
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On July 11 2011 02:13 ohampatu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 02:09 Otori wrote:On July 11 2011 01:59 KobraKay wrote:On July 11 2011 01:50 Otori wrote:On July 11 2011 01:48 KobraKay wrote:On July 11 2011 01:45 Otori wrote:
I'd like gretorp and iNControl to cast this, like them much better than tastosis tbh, I don't know what's with all the hate towards gretorp, he's genuinely awesome
Also hoping PuMa will take this, would be nice to see a terran beasting it up in an international tournament for once. GO PUMA! You mean like MLG ou TSL? =/ or IEM (morrow) or etc? I mean like the last 5 big international tournaments has been mostly dominated by protoss Thats true but thats not what you said before. Terrans usually win things. MLG Columbus is sure one of the last 5 big tournaments to be played (and TSL aswell, depending on what you consider big it should still be in the last 5 big tournaments). Yes protoss have been dominating a lot (T.T I hate P) but your first post made it sound like terran has troubles even placing a single result and thats what I responded to. I was just trying to point out that every tournament usually has at least one terran hero so having Puma in a final is not "for once" =/ just that... Yeah, for me it's "for once" which was what I ment, I have not been a part of the sc2 community for very long and i'm sure terrans have dominated a lot of tournaments in the past, just the major ones i've recently seen has been completely dominated by protoss players, even the top 3 or top 4 in the homecome sc2 cup was pure toss, but yeah I failed to explain what I ment properly Apart From Homestory and DH, protoss haven't been that strong apart from MC. GSL championships are pretty even spread out, and im pretty sure gsl was like 16 terrans/8 toss/7zerg or soemthing similar. Terrans should use ghosts more and stop complainingg. Zerg are in good spot imo. Edit: If we wanted to get serious, i could say that Terran and Zerg have huge amounts of talent coming out, while protoss are looking around for our up and comers like 'wtf'
Lol, that's a lot of "apart".. "apart from this and that and apart from that and that player", but yeah..=p
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On July 11 2011 02:13 NotSorry wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 02:12 Creep wrote:On July 11 2011 02:11 s3183529 wrote:On July 11 2011 02:06 ProxyKnoxy wrote:On July 11 2011 02:03 theBOOCH wrote:
I think it's amusing that all of the Europeans etc are complaining about the times. All Euro and Korean tourneys start at somewhere between 2 am and 4 am for us in the Americas. But them tournaments actually have a lot of starcraft content in them? This is 4 hours content and 8 hours crap. We wouldn't (sorry to speak for everyone here) complain if the schedule wasn't terrible THIS If you think NASL has no content and is 8 hours of crap then why are you watching it? The other 2-3 hours of good games that come in between the 8hours of crap
There maybe 1.5 hours of games... if that....
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Time to be honest: MC and Nada were the only top Code S player in the tournament only MC made it through the "battle.net-stage"...
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On July 11 2011 02:16 On_Slaught wrote:
OP was updated
12:00 PDT: Opening Ceremony/Musical Act and Entertainment
13:00 PDT to 15:00 PDT: Third Place Match (bo5)
15:00 PDT to 16:00 PDT: 1 hour break
16:00 PDT to 18:00 PDT: Finals (bo7)
18:00 PDT to 19:00 PDT: Award Ceremony
If they stick to the schedule I'll eat shit and die.
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I'm kinda sad it's a PvT final, again.
Too many tournament who end up in PvT because MC is so impossible to break in PvZ.
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Just play some ladder between the games or something (but yes the scheduling hasn't been very good at this event).
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On July 10 2011 23:45 MajorityofOne wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 21:30 Lucidity wrote:
Why is there an hour scheduled for a Musical Act and Entertainment? What the hell. No one is watching NASL for music. We're here to watch SC2.
This whole weekend has had the stench of some leftovers from GSL. Player intro vids ... which have gone stale and now last 30 mins each. Musical acts before the finals ... which now last an hour and won't include cute Kpop ass. There's no need to imitate the Koreans, especially if you're going to do it wrong.
An hour long opening ceremony... This isn't the olympics. An hour break in the middle of the schedule for ... absolutely no reason? Why?! This just seems like deliberate time wasting to ensure that only NA viewers can tune in. The final (if on time, which isn't guaranteed) only starts at 2AM here. If all the planned events lasted reasonable amounts of time the final could easily start at 11PM for EU. The only explanation I can think of is that they're trying to get more VOD sales from Euros, but they have to know that, that isn't going to happen. It's overpriced.
I am dumbfounded. 11 for EU translates into 2 in the afternoon for the west coast and 5 for the east coast. In what universe do people actually think they'd do that?
Perhaps you are new to eSports, but the majority of LAN competitions in the past have had their finals at this time or earlier. I don't think it's unreasonable at all and it would most likely double their viewership -_-
Hosting the finals at 8pm EST isn't necessary. It's a Sunday. No NA people are at work.
I realize that the schedule has now been shortened by one hour, which is great, but there's still a random 1 hour break in the middle. What the -_-
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On July 10 2011 20:25 Velrath wrote:
2 a.m. on a sunday night for the finals is real rough for us europeans. I wish they would start a couple hours earlier. That way we could watch, and if any koreans wanted to watch they could get up an hour or two early and see the finals before they go to work.
Try 4 AM every night of the week for any GSL.
MC 4-3 (wish it were Bo9)
Sen 3-2 (I hope to at least have 1 non-Korean top 3)
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On July 11 2011 02:12 Creep wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 02:11 s3183529 wrote:On July 11 2011 02:06 ProxyKnoxy wrote:On July 11 2011 02:03 theBOOCH wrote:
I think it's amusing that all of the Europeans etc are complaining about the times. All Euro and Korean tourneys start at somewhere between 2 am and 4 am for us in the Americas. But them tournaments actually have a lot of starcraft content in them? This is 4 hours content and 8 hours crap. We wouldn't (sorry to speak for everyone here) complain if the schedule wasn't terrible THIS If you think NASL has no content and is 8 hours of crap then why are you watching it?
No one said no content. It has content just not a lot (in relation to the broadcast lenght). Thats what they were saying.
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Sen vs July is a win-win situation
either Sen wins and he is fucking awesome, love this guy so much ^^
or July win and he is a fucking BW legend
3-2, don't care who wins :D zerg fighting
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On July 11 2011 02:21 Probe1 wrote:
If they stick to the schedule I'll eat shit and die.
Why, they play 2 matches in 7 hours, one of those is a zvz. Pretty tight schedule.
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