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Hey guys - These games are meant to be fun and for your entertainment. Caster and Player bashing will not be tolerated. Manner please!

Also, this is a Live Report thread - not the place to discuss your displeasure with the event or any of the people involved with it.
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
July 10 2011 15:32 GMT
#221
On July 11 2011 00:30 Clbull wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 00:25 Bobster wrote:
On July 11 2011 00:22 ptbl wrote:
On July 11 2011 00:18 Bobster wrote:
On July 11 2011 00:16 Clbull wrote:
I think the Koreans are absolutely dominating this tournament.

11/50
9/16
6/8
3/4
2/2
1/1


What impresses me the most is that 9 out of 11 koreans managed to advance out of 50 people.

To be fair, it was actually 7 out of 50 - 2 came in separately through the Open.

Really? I thought only 1 spot was available in the Main Bracket from the open.

As in those who ranked 1st - 10th in the regular season went straight through, the 11th - 20th place finishers going through playoffs and the top 5 going through to the main bracket, and the 16th spot going to the Open bracket winner.

Alive replaced Strelok who was not able to attend the finals due to visa issues.
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
July 10 2011 15:32 GMT
#222
On July 11 2011 00:31 kheldorin wrote:
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On July 11 2011 00:22 Dayrlan wrote:
On July 11 2011 00:20 Bobster wrote:
On July 11 2011 00:18 oskarla wrote:
For you complaining about the music, you've obviously never watched GSL. You come for the starcraft, you stay for the kpop
I can't fucking stand kpop.

I like some of the SC2 parody songs more (which isn't hard, really), but I don't particularly care for a live performance of them.


The musical act is a live performance of SC2 parody songs?

Oh my. :X


The production is so embarassing. I wish they put more emphasis on the games. A B05 for the first rounds for example. Flying all the way just to lose 1 B03 when there's actually time to play more games is just horrible. And at the very least have this extra fluff at a time where no one really cares. Instead, they put the actual games at a time not conducive to Euro.


yup i really hope they change the playoff format in the next season, should be double elimin for sure.
Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
July 10 2011 15:32 GMT
#223
On July 11 2011 00:30 Olinim wrote:
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On July 11 2011 00:29 beeehappy wrote:
I know this is the first NASL but is there any word on if there will be another one? If so for the same prize money? I'd imagine Huk would really want to be in the next one. I'm amazed how MC can dominate the tournaments he's in. He must practice a lot and hard!

They said its CONFIRMED for 3 seasons.

Apparently Seasons 1 and 2 will have a $100,000 prize pool whereas Season 3 will have a $200,000 prize pool.

As for what beeehappy said about MC, that's the result of both being talented and knowledgeable with the Protoss race and many hours per day of meaningful practice. It is clear that oGs train their players very well.
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
July 10 2011 15:32 GMT
#224
On July 11 2011 00:26 shannn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 00:22 ptbl wrote:
On July 11 2011 00:18 Bobster wrote:
On July 11 2011 00:16 Clbull wrote:
I think the Koreans are absolutely dominating this tournament.

11/50
9/16
6/8
3/4
2/2
1/1


What impresses me the most is that 9 out of 11 koreans managed to advance out of 50 people.

Isn't it 7 out of 11 from the regular league?
2 from the Open tournament (puma and alive).
But still very impressive nonetheless and quite sad that PuMa only had to play an open tournament and skip over the 3 months league and get to the finals >.>
I hope MC wins because at least he managed to play for 3 months with the playoffs and this tournament :p
To be fair, he had to go 8-0 in the Open Tournament (against players such as Dimaga, linko, Nightend, Clide and Alive ) to get into the Ro16.

Fuck, he played more games than White-Ra to make it to the finals! :D
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
July 10 2011 15:32 GMT
#225
On July 11 2011 00:30 Kahann wrote:
(T)PuMa will take it. Look at his (T)Protoss victims, (P)Sage, (P)Squirtle, (P)Younghwa, (P)Puzzle and (P)HongUn. He has a 80 percent winrate against protoss which is soo GOOD!!! I Think he ll defeart MC!!

His winrate is inflated by not playing in the gsl, and a small amount of games and still barely above MC's
Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
July 10 2011 15:33 GMT
#226
On July 11 2011 00:32 Bobster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 00:30 Clbull wrote:
On July 11 2011 00:25 Bobster wrote:
On July 11 2011 00:22 ptbl wrote:
On July 11 2011 00:18 Bobster wrote:
On July 11 2011 00:16 Clbull wrote:
I think the Koreans are absolutely dominating this tournament.

11/50
9/16
6/8
3/4
2/2
1/1


What impresses me the most is that 9 out of 11 koreans managed to advance out of 50 people.

To be fair, it was actually 7 out of 50 - 2 came in separately through the Open.

Really? I thought only 1 spot was available in the Main Bracket from the open.

As in those who ranked 1st - 10th in the regular season went straight through, the 11th - 20th place finishers going through playoffs and the top 5 going through to the main bracket, and the 16th spot going to the Open bracket winner.

Alive replaced Strelok who was not able to attend the finals due to visa issues.


I stand corrected.
Rasky
Profile Joined July 2010
United States406 Posts
July 10 2011 15:33 GMT
#227
USA USA USA
ohampatu
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1448 Posts
July 10 2011 15:35 GMT
#228
On July 11 2011 00:32 Olinim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 00:30 Kahann wrote:
(T)PuMa will take it. Look at his (T)Protoss victims, (P)Sage, (P)Squirtle, (P)Younghwa, (P)Puzzle and (P)HongUn. He has a 80 percent winrate against protoss which is soo GOOD!!! I Think he ll defeart MC!!

His winrate is inflated by not playing in the gsl, and a small amount of games and still barely above MC's



None of those players play P at a level that MC does either. Puzzle and Sage could be up and coming, but his games VS Squirtle were imo showed that mc should take this easy. Huk in the quotes thread even stated the same, his vsP against Squirtle would have gotten wrecked if that was MC handling it.
I am become death, for I am the destroyer of worlds.....You will be missed KT Violet!!!
darkest44
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1009 Posts
July 10 2011 15:36 GMT
#229
I feel scared for whoever is preforming in the musical act as they are at the mercy NASL's pro sound guy.
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 15:38:39
July 10 2011 15:36 GMT
#230
On July 11 2011 00:33 Rasky wrote:
USA USA USA
Yeah, here's hoping you guys have a better showing next season.

Sheth did great, Idra was a bit unlucky with the draw... but let's not talk about the rest of the players.


NA started out with the largest amount of players from the three major regions and managed to become the smallest in the span of a single season. Not one player from NA managed to qualify for one of the 12 new spots in the Opens. (Major,inka and Bubbles got close but couldn't pull through).
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
July 10 2011 15:36 GMT
#231
Koreans fly in

Money flies out

Most certainly explains starcraft
Dayrlan
Profile Joined November 2010
United States248 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 15:38:00
July 10 2011 15:36 GMT
#232
On July 11 2011 00:30 Kahann wrote:
(T)PuMa will take it. Look at his (T)Protoss victims, (P)Sage, (P)Squirtle, (P)Younghwa, (P)Puzzle and (P)HongUn. He has a 80 percent winrate against protoss which is soo GOOD!!! I Think he ll defeart MC!!


(P)MC has an 80 percent winrate against those players too. His recent PvT winrate is influenced by losses to (T)Polt/(T)Bomber/(T)MMA, which are way better IMO than the Protosses you listed.

Edit: I fail at linking to the SC2 version of TLPD. :< How do you link SC2 specifically?
Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
July 10 2011 15:37 GMT
#233
On July 11 2011 00:32 Olinim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 00:30 Kahann wrote:
(T)PuMa will take it. Look at his (T)Protoss victims, (P)Sage, (P)Squirtle, (P)Younghwa, (P)Puzzle and (P)HongUn. He has a 80 percent winrate against protoss which is soo GOOD!!! I Think he ll defeart MC!!

His winrate is inflated by not playing in the gsl, and a small amount of games and still barely above MC's

Yes, but he is facing MC. While MC's PvP and PvZ are statistically better according to both Korean and International TLPDs, MC can take down Puma.
Wrathsc2
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2025 Posts
July 10 2011 15:37 GMT
#234
On July 11 2011 00:36 Dayrlan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 00:30 Kahann wrote:
(T)PuMa will take it. Look at his (T)Protoss victims, (P)Sage, (P)Squirtle, (P)Younghwa, (P)Puzzle and (P)HongUn. He has a 80 percent winrate against protoss which is soo GOOD!!! I Think he ll defeart MC!!


(P)MC has an 80 percent winrate against those players too. His recent PvT winrate is influenced by losses to (T)Polt/(T)Bomber/(T)MMA, which are way better IMO than the Protosses you listed.


bomber beat mc before at dreamhack
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Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
July 10 2011 15:38 GMT
#235
On July 11 2011 00:37 radiantshadow92 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 00:36 Dayrlan wrote:
On July 11 2011 00:30 Kahann wrote:
(T)PuMa will take it. Look at his (T)Protoss victims, (P)Sage, (P)Squirtle, (P)Younghwa, (P)Puzzle and (P)HongUn. He has a 80 percent winrate against protoss which is soo GOOD!!! I Think he ll defeart MC!!


(P)MC has an 80 percent winrate against those players too. His recent PvT winrate is influenced by losses to (T)Polt/(T)Bomber/(T)MMA, which are way better IMO than the Protosses you listed.


bomber beat mc before at dreamhack

So did bomber possess puma and is he playing in the finals? ;p
Dayrlan
Profile Joined November 2010
United States248 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 15:39:55
July 10 2011 15:38 GMT
#236
On July 11 2011 00:37 radiantshadow92 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 00:36 Dayrlan wrote:
On July 11 2011 00:30 Kahann wrote:
(T)PuMa will take it. Look at his (T)Protoss victims, (P)Sage, (P)Squirtle, (P)Younghwa, (P)Puzzle and (P)HongUn. He has a 80 percent winrate against protoss which is soo GOOD!!! I Think he ll defeart MC!!


(P)MC has an 80 percent winrate against those players too. His recent PvT winrate is influenced by losses to (T)Polt/(T)Bomber/(T)MMA, which are way better IMO than the Protosses you listed.


bomber beat mc before at dreamhack


One would hope so. Otherwise MC's win rate would be 100%, not 80%.

Also... Wait, what? That's just what I said. MC lost to Polt/Bomber/MMA?
vijeze
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands719 Posts
July 10 2011 15:40 GMT
#237
Puma 4-2! calling it.
-stOpSKY-
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada498 Posts
July 10 2011 15:40 GMT
#238
I think MC is def going to win, but those gaimz vs sen..... DAYMN!!
ohampatu
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1448 Posts
July 10 2011 15:42 GMT
#239
What Dayrian said. PuMa is in the up and coming, but not in the dominant terran groups. MC losses are to crazy good Terrans and those losses weren't Bo7 matches, and MC is on a couple different levels than every one of those Protoss. If this was Bo3 PuMa would have better chance, but a Bo7 in the end is gonna be what lets MC shine.

MC is a contender for Top 3 in the world. His micro has always been insane. He will play pvp and have the same unit comp as the opponent, and at the end of the fight be up like 5+ units. And lately he is playing bw-esque macro oriented.

Would be cool upset, but Obama-Toss is about to be 50k closer to the 1 million prize pool he wants before military service. He has also stated his goal is for 7 major large victories. If he is counting large prize pools outside of GSL (this would be bigger payout then gsl i believe), he is getting closer!!
I am become death, for I am the destroyer of worlds.....You will be missed KT Violet!!!
cassurai
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore307 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 15:42:49
July 10 2011 15:42 GMT
#240
what are the maps? how can you guys even begin to make predictions without considering the maps?

this is especially so since i have a feeling 1 base scv all ins are going to be used at least once, if not more.
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