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Hammer442
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia749 Posts
July 10 2011 04:07 GMT
#13541
Guaranteed 25 grand for MC or Puma, quite a nice trip to the states!
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
July 10 2011 04:07 GMT
#13542
On July 10 2011 13:04 InvalidID wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 13:00 eYeball wrote:
On July 10 2011 12:58 KimJongChill wrote:
Sen is clearly the best foreigner, and would probably be in the top 5 zergs in Korea as well. I really only see Nestea better than him, and maybe Losira and DRG. Wow, I'm a Sen fan now @_@""


I can see that. But Losira, DRG and Nestea are all better than sen.


Clearly the best foreigner? Maybe the best foreign Zerg, but Huk has clearly established himself as the top foreigner at the moment.


I wouldn't go that far. Rember when Jinro was dominating...look what happened. This was also during when there was imbalanced maps. Lets stop making generalizations off a few tournaments. Sen could have been Code-S but he decided to stay in taiwan to help promote e-sports there.
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
ct2299
Profile Joined February 2011
380 Posts
July 10 2011 04:07 GMT
#13543
On July 10 2011 12:56 proxY_ wrote:
Sen was too late making a spinecrawler wall, he went up to 105 drones and he should've had 10 spines + a spore or two on both sides map. If he does that hes in an incredible position but he didn't. Very frustrating I felt like Sen really played at or above MC's level but he loses because of basically singular mistakes.


Lol then he isn't at or above MC's level if he can make a mistake like that. You have poor logic. Planning for everything is a "skill" that all top players should have.
Utinni
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1196 Posts
July 10 2011 04:07 GMT
#13544
Why do people say Huk is Korean. He is a foreigner who trains with Koreans... What is not to understand. If you are in the same environment you will adapt. He trains as hard as they do... that is why he can compete.
“... you don’t have to be Sun freakin Tzu to know that real fighting isn’t about killing or even hurting the other guy, it’s about scaring him enough to call it a day.” - Max Brooks: World War Z
jyLee
Profile Joined August 2009
United States350 Posts
July 10 2011 04:07 GMT
#13545
On July 10 2011 13:01 Sabu113 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 12:58 shikheh wrote:
Translator missed that MC said Sen played very well.



Who was the friend he was talking about from sc1?

He was talking about how puma was a friend for over 8 years ever since they played broodwar together and that he taught him how to tvp.
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
July 10 2011 04:07 GMT
#13546
On July 10 2011 13:06 GenesisX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 13:05 SuperFanBoy wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:02 Enforcerone wrote:
I gave MC alot of hate before for "cheese" timing attack only-wins but he's obviously convinced me now that he's world class allaround player as he claims. MC is on my fanlist.



dude your retarded if you thought MC only wins by cheese and timing attacks, you don't become a 2 time GSL champion without solid play...


MC vs July finals

July went some terrible Ling/Hydra builds with no Roach Speed/Tunneling and died everytime. If he had gone those two upgrades then maybe the games would have gone on longer. You can't blame him for that
StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
July 10 2011 04:07 GMT
#13547
On July 10 2011 13:05 LastDance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 13:00 Kipsate wrote:
On July 10 2011 12:59 Euronyme wrote:
On July 10 2011 12:58 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Another korean vs korean finals as expected..


Yeah well most of these foreigners play like 2 hours a day, and the koreans play 12 hours a day. What do you expect?
It's like you trying to fight mike tyson in a boxing ring. It's nothing to complain about.


I don't think Sen is one of them is he?I actually have no idea of the Taiwanese training but I think it should be pretty damn good, they have a Taiwanese Starleague and I wouldn't be suprised if they have progaming houses akin to the Koreans aswell.


Sen is also doing full time studies at the university. He's doing like finance and accounting or something along those lines.


This guy is amazing. Since day1 of beta Sen has always been up there.
"Even gophers love Starcraft" - Tasteless. || Davichi | IU <3
Stress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States980 Posts
July 10 2011 04:07 GMT
#13548
The quality of the stream(mainly audio) was so much better today than yesterday, I'm glad they got that crap sorted out. On top of that there has been so many epic games, especially today, I can't wait for the matches tomorrow and for the next season to start. Speaking of that, does anyone know when the next season will begin?
"Touch my gosu hands." - Tastosis | | fOrGG // MC // Jaedong
HomicidaL
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States283 Posts
July 10 2011 04:07 GMT
#13549
On July 10 2011 13:06 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 13:04 Alkior wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:03 Dodgin wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:03 Maliris wrote:
MC is officially a bonjwa


let it be written!

Just stop it with the bonjwa crap. He is not a bonjwa yet.

We really can't even consider a bonjwa until after LotV is out. The game's still shifting too much for someone to claim that title.

agreed
Reignx
Profile Joined June 2011
United States27 Posts
July 10 2011 04:07 GMT
#13550
On July 10 2011 13:04 SoKHo wrote:
i wish sen went to mlg


hes staying in US to do MLG so you get to see him own it up there too=)
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
July 10 2011 04:07 GMT
#13551
What time do the actual matches start?
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
July 10 2011 04:07 GMT
#13552
major props to NASL after pulling together for a good day2 after the bad that was day1. Almost like a different tournament/event, on the stream that is. Major props and I will be tuning in tomorrow, be sure about that.

now for some sleepy time, 6am ugh
Do you really want chat rooms?
Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
July 10 2011 04:07 GMT
#13553
On July 10 2011 13:06 Xivsa wrote:
What a great series. In addition to the sadness of not having a loser's bracket, it appears Sen won't even play July tomorrow in a consolation match. Gahhh NASL


They won't play, or they won't show it? That's a $5k difference...
RedDragon571
Profile Joined March 2011
United States633 Posts
July 10 2011 04:08 GMT
#13554
Ok, too all the zerg's saying sen outplayed mc. I am a high masters zerg and I will occasionally delve into balance, but that is just not the case at all. MC outplayed sen, Sen got nervous and made a few hasty decisions that lost him the game. both player played brilliantly, but MC had to make soo many very tough decision in that game. He HAD to delay his gold expo on meta, he made incredible descision on when to attack and a incredibly smart void switch on terminus. So many good decisions by MC. MC was moments away from losing it all at many points but he made the correct descisions every time. The first two loses, was because he was unprepared to deal with that relatively new style sen showed.

Ps: I must be ahead of the curve meta game wise, because I do the exact same thing sen did, in most those games, However, Sen did alot of things I didn't think about, spine crawler walls, brilliant :D
minhbq299
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom566 Posts
July 10 2011 04:08 GMT
#13555
On July 10 2011 13:02 ZidaneTribal wrote:
so tomorrow is 3rd place and final? not a lot of games


MC and Sen are kind of tired out after the game.

It's better for the game to be tomorrow, player need to hit the best form.

And It is 2 Best of 7 anyway, It will probably worth the day
SlayerS_Puzzle, oGsMC, Liquid'Hero, FXOz, ST.Parting, , NSHoseoJjakji, SlayerS_CoCa, DRG
funkyfritter
Profile Joined May 2010
353 Posts
July 10 2011 04:08 GMT
#13556
On July 10 2011 13:04 hmunkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 13:03 funkyfritter wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:02 ragealot wrote:
No wonder Koreans are joining foreign teams, this is easy money.

I really doubt that even MC would call that match easy.

No but GSL would mean more several matchups of that difficulty rather than having Koreans absolutely stomp 80% of their matches with no challenge until RO4-ish.

MC stomps most of his gsl opponents too. Offhand I can't think of a gsl match of his that was closer than this one.
Cryhavoc
Profile Joined April 2010
372 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 04:09:06
July 10 2011 04:08 GMT
#13557
nwm
En Taro Adun!
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
July 10 2011 04:08 GMT
#13558
On July 10 2011 13:06 Serpico wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 13:04 InvalidID wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:00 eYeball wrote:
On July 10 2011 12:58 KimJongChill wrote:
Sen is clearly the best foreigner, and would probably be in the top 5 zergs in Korea as well. I really only see Nestea better than him, and maybe Losira and DRG. Wow, I'm a Sen fan now @_@""


I can see that. But Losira, DRG and Nestea are all better than sen.


Clearly the best foreigner? Maybe the best foreign Zerg, but Huk has clearly established himself as the top foreigner at the moment.

No, huk isn't the best foreigner at all. I'd take dimaga/throzain/sen/naniwa/idra before huk because they've been much more consistent.

Really? How so?
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InvalidID
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1050 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 04:11:42
July 10 2011 04:08 GMT
#13559

On July 10 2011 13:07 Sc2Null wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 13:04 InvalidID wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:00 eYeball wrote:
On July 10 2011 12:58 KimJongChill wrote:
Sen is clearly the best foreigner, and would probably be in the top 5 zergs in Korea as well. I really only see Nestea better than him, and maybe Losira and DRG. Wow, I'm a Sen fan now @_@""


I can see that. But Losira, DRG and Nestea are all better than sen.


Clearly the best foreigner? Maybe the best foreign Zerg, but Huk has clearly established himself as the top foreigner at the moment.


I wouldn't go that far. Rember when Jinro was dominating...look what happened. This was also during when there was imbalanced maps. Lets stop making generalizations off a few tournaments. Sen could have been Code-S but he decided to stay in taiwan to help promote e-sports there.


That's why I said at the moment. And IIRC, Sens code A run did not qualify him for Code S.
[Quote]
[QUOTE]On July 10 2011 13:08 jmbthirteen wrote:
[QUOTE]On July 10 2011 13:06 Serpico wrote:
[QUOTE]On July 10 2011 13:04 InvalidID wrote:
[QUOTE]On July 10 2011 13:00 eYeball wrote:
[QUOTE]On July 10 2011 12:58 KimJongChill wrote:
Sen is clearly the best foreigner, and would probably be in the top 5 zergs in Korea as well. I really only see Nestea better than him, and maybe Losira and DRG. Wow, I'm a Sen fan now @_@""[/QUOTE]

I can see that. But Losira, DRG and Nestea are all better than sen.[/QUOTE]

Clearly the best foreigner? Maybe the best foreign Zerg, but Huk has clearly established himself as the top foreigner at the moment. [/QUOTE]
No, huk isn't the best foreigner at all. I'd take dimaga/throzain/sen/naniwa/idra before huk because they've been much more consistent.[/QUOTE]

Huk won two tournaments in a row where all of those players were attending. He beat Naniwa, and Idra, and the others did not make it far enough to beat him. He rarely plays on the NA scene, I don't know what more proof you could ask for. Huk 6 months ago? No he was not the best foreigner, but he is the only foreigner who has demonstrated the ability to get consistent results vs Koreans.
Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
July 10 2011 04:08 GMT
#13560
On July 10 2011 13:06 Euronyme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 13:04 Moonwrath wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:02 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:01 Medrea wrote:
I understood every word MC said and every point he was trying to get across.

I can't even say that for a LOT of inner city Americans.

His english is really improving. I like that he is making the effort to do it on his own, just like how Jinro learned Korean. I guess Huk said he is trying to learn Korean too, but he's not very good at it or something

It's an incredibly difficult language for native English speakers. It's SO different.


Wouldn't it be just as hard for Swedish people?


Asian languages are not as hard as people make them out to be. The truth is that ALL languages are hard to learn. Asian languages might be slightly different, but like all other languages it's a matter of practice and application.
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