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Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
July 13 2011 21:17 GMT
#241
2 factories already :D Gogo GoOdy style!!!
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
Kiarip
Profile Joined August 2008
United States1835 Posts
July 13 2011 21:17 GMT
#242
On July 14 2011 06:13 BjC wrote:
I dont understand people saying that Kas didnt say Catz is bad. He just did it again and said Catz wouldnt be able to hold up against most 2nd tier european zergs like naugrim and he named a few others. He also said Catz only probabily wins by doing roach rush or cheesey things. For people that missed it, it is in the interval after game 3.

well he's right...
mechavoc
Profile Joined December 2010
United States664 Posts
July 13 2011 21:24 GMT
#243
Overall in reading this and the Drewbie thread my view of Euro posters has changed significantly.

I always thought the production small minded xenophobic BM filled troll posters was primarily an American phenomena. Apparently European posters poses the same capacity and, like the adoration of David Hasselhoff, have adopted this sad bit of American "culture" as well.

Players are people not machines they have good days and bad days. They go through up cycles and down cycles SC2 is a hard game to master and as a result people go through rough losing streaks. Jinro for example was the best of the best for a while and now is back to the drawing board with recent struggles. Does that mean he is a horrible player? (Obviously not)

So in the future perhaps people can attempt to recognize the difference between criticizing specific game play and criticizing a player? One is constructive the other is not
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
July 13 2011 21:25 GMT
#244
On July 14 2011 06:17 Kiarip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 06:13 BjC wrote:
I dont understand people saying that Kas didnt say Catz is bad. He just did it again and said Catz wouldnt be able to hold up against most 2nd tier european zergs like naugrim and he named a few others. He also said Catz only probabily wins by doing roach rush or cheesey things. For people that missed it, it is in the interval after game 3.

well he's right...


*sigh* It is depressing to see people's reading comprehension in this thread.

The person you quoted didn't say it was or wasn't true, he was saying that people were denying the fact that Kas called Catz bad, when he did in fact call him bad.

Whether it is true or not is irrelevant, and all you did was add your own negative opinion for no reason.
fAiryqt
Profile Joined April 2011
Russian Federation138 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 21:29:17
July 13 2011 21:27 GMT
#245
why u hattin?

Kas got a lot of exp playin ladder in europe, and he can obviously compare players, bcoz in fact, he had got no us acc and never played NA players on na ladder i guess, so he was disappointed by the way na player (CatZ) started to play vs him in showmatch.

I don't wanna defend him, but Kas is calling facts: "i played bad", "still i managed to win", he was disappointed in CatZ and started to be bored, just it
gezus
Sandermatt
Profile Joined December 2010
Switzerland1365 Posts
July 13 2011 21:39 GMT
#246
On July 14 2011 06:24 mechavoc wrote:
Overall in reading this and the Drewbie thread my view of Euro posters has changed significantly.

I always thought the production small minded xenophobic BM filled troll posters was primarily an American phenomena. Apparently European posters poses the same capacity and, like the adoration of David Hasselhoff, have adopted this sad bit of American "culture" as well.

Players are people not machines they have good days and bad days. They go through up cycles and down cycles SC2 is a hard game to master and as a result people go through rough losing streaks. Jinro for example was the best of the best for a while and now is back to the drawing board with recent struggles. Does that mean he is a horrible player? (Obviously not)

So in the future perhaps people can attempt to recognize the difference between criticizing specific game play and criticizing a player? One is constructive the other is not


If it was Idra or Huk taking on the best european players the reactions would be different. But here Catz and Drewbie just took players far above their caliber.
Mayor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States472 Posts
July 13 2011 21:50 GMT
#247
On July 14 2011 06:24 mechavoc wrote:
Overall in reading this and the Drewbie thread my view of Euro posters has changed significantly.

I always thought the production small minded xenophobic BM filled troll posters was primarily an American phenomena. Apparently European posters poses the same capacity and, like the adoration of David Hasselhoff, have adopted this sad bit of American "culture" as well.

Players are people not machines they have good days and bad days. They go through up cycles and down cycles SC2 is a hard game to master and as a result people go through rough losing streaks. Jinro for example was the best of the best for a while and now is back to the drawing board with recent struggles. Does that mean he is a horrible player? (Obviously not)

So in the future perhaps people can attempt to recognize the difference between criticizing specific game play and criticizing a player? One is constructive the other is not


It isn't cultural by any means, flamers, trolls and idiots exist everywhere, unfortunately. =/

Good play by Kas, though, he's on a different level than Catz in skill in my opinion, he's a pretty great player, and I wish I could say the same about Catz.
"You can be creative but I will crush it under the iron fist of my conservative play." - Liquid`Tyler
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2905 Posts
July 13 2011 21:51 GMT
#248
3-2 in favor of Kas.
You can do it, CatZ!
말크 : ^_^~ NeO)GabuAt, vGODieN
Hondelul
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1999 Posts
July 13 2011 21:52 GMT
#249
On July 14 2011 06:25 Chicane wrote:
*sigh* It is depressing to see people's reading comprehension in this thread.

The person you quoted didn't say it was or wasn't true, he was saying that people were denying the fact that Kas called Catz bad, when he did in fact call him bad.

Whether it is true or not is irrelevant, and all you did was add your own negative opinion for no reason.

I honestly find it good that you arguing in such a mannered way against the negative comments. I didn´t watch Kas stream and can not comment what he said but you have to say that catz is not 1st level zerg in NA. The only 2 imo are Sheth and Idra, perhaps Machine but I must say I´m not that familiar with NA zergs.
So if Kas compares him to 2nd level Zergs in EU you must respect that, and I don´t think that´s an insult.
But even if I commented now on that I think we should just enjoy the games, of course "EU pride" comes in play but I have to say too that all the comments in so many thread that EU ahead of NA pisses me of...
DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
July 13 2011 21:52 GMT
#250
guys, Kas is talking English for the first time on his stream, his vocabulary is quite Low since he just learns english.

Dont take all he says too serious. he might not mean it as he says
European Ranking: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=182293
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
July 13 2011 21:56 GMT
#251
Steppes.. Incoming 6 pool?
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
PDizzle
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark1754 Posts
July 13 2011 21:57 GMT
#252
ohh catz... u so crazy
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
July 13 2011 21:57 GMT
#253
Come on...what's he gonna do? Proxy hatch?

Kas is right, it's not fun playing on Steppes.
LlamaNamedOsama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1900 Posts
July 13 2011 21:58 GMT
#254
On July 14 2011 06:56 Jono7272 wrote:
Steppes.. Incoming 6 pool?


Incoming 12 drone rush?
Dario Wünsch: I guess...Creator...met his maker *sunglasses*
Tsuki.eu
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1049 Posts
July 13 2011 21:59 GMT
#255
good old steppes of war :,)
Gator
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States3432 Posts
July 13 2011 22:00 GMT
#256
catz the only zerg to pick steppes when he needs a win
TSM
Kiarip
Profile Joined August 2008
United States1835 Posts
July 13 2011 22:05 GMT
#257
lmao. all this time Kas is just wondering on his stream why Catz doesn't want to play a good game for the viewers, because it's a SHOWmatch.
vilg
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark413 Posts
July 13 2011 22:07 GMT
#258
Yeah Kas seems pretty sad about not showing proper games to the viewers. What a guy!
Imres
Profile Joined March 2011
515 Posts
July 13 2011 22:09 GMT
#259
On July 14 2011 07:05 Kiarip wrote:
lmao. all this time Kas is just wondering on his stream why Catz doesn't want to play a good game for the viewers, because it's a SHOWmatch.


he's not the only one.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
July 13 2011 22:10 GMT
#260
Well, Endrey choosing steppes when Kas allow him to pick any map is also a dumb move for the players and the viewers.
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