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Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
June 30 2011 07:01 GMT
#1001
Ryuuuung. YOU CAN DO IT. Do it for BoxeR and MMA! Oh, and Min. Do it for Min.
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JKira
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada1002 Posts
June 30 2011 07:01 GMT
#1002
On June 30 2011 15:58 Moonwrath wrote:
Not once have I seen this DT expand build work. Ever.


Alicia has used it to decent success. He usually transitions quickly into storm and charge while getting armor upgrades. I think it relies on Terran being really scared of DTs and never moving out. Tassadar's mistake was going for a 6gate after DTs failed to do any damage.
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
June 30 2011 07:02 GMT
#1003
On June 30 2011 16:01 Stanlot wrote:
Ryuuuung. YOU CAN DO IT. Do it for BoxeR and MMA! Oh, and Min. Do it for Min.


For alicia@
KCCO!
KoTakUEurO
Profile Joined May 2011
605 Posts
June 30 2011 07:02 GMT
#1004
On June 30 2011 16:01 Stanlot wrote:
Ryuuuung. YOU CAN DO IT. Do it for BoxeR and MMA! Oh, and Min. Do it for Min.


and Alicia... the entire SlayerS team
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
June 30 2011 07:03 GMT
#1005
On June 30 2011 16:01 Stanlot wrote:
Ryuuuung. YOU CAN DO IT. Do it for BoxeR and MMA! Oh, and Min. Do it for Min.

Never realized how bad Code A is going for SlayerS until this post..

Ryung really needs to win!
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
June 30 2011 07:03 GMT
#1006
The Genius game last night was as much the other guy failing to capitalize as it was Genius having good crisis control (for lack of a better term). I'm reluctant to say that's a good example of DT expand working.
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Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
June 30 2011 07:03 GMT
#1007
On June 30 2011 15:57 DoomsVille wrote:
Even if you make 30 probes

Your income is roughly 800 mins/minute and 200 gas/min.

Per round of warp in, you have to make a pylon. A warp-in with zealots/sentries is ~ 30 in game seconds.

So every minute you can have 2 rounds of production from the remaining 600 mins/200 gas (200 mins lost to pylons).

There is no way to get 8 units out of 600 mins/200 gas. Physically impossible. Best you can do is 5 zealots/2 sentries.

You can almost support 4 gates. But you can't support it. And this doesn't even take into account chronoboosting your warpgates.

/discussion

Back on topic to the games.

Why did you factor the pylon into the calculations? The protoss can just continually attack and will lose supply in the process.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 30 2011 07:03 GMT
#1008
wolf doesnt know the new up and down format apparently. if you win its not that you get to pick your opponents, you get a free ticket to code s
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pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
June 30 2011 07:03 GMT
#1009
I think the people who are criticizing the DT expand build are missing the point. It's not meant to do win, it's just meant to get your expansion up safely and then allow you to transition.
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DonaldLee
Profile Joined August 2010
586 Posts
June 30 2011 07:04 GMT
#1010
I think the new wildly different up-and-down format just slipped Wolf's mind.
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
June 30 2011 07:05 GMT
#1011
On June 30 2011 16:03 Azzur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2011 15:57 DoomsVille wrote:
Even if you make 30 probes

Your income is roughly 800 mins/minute and 200 gas/min.

Per round of warp in, you have to make a pylon. A warp-in with zealots/sentries is ~ 30 in game seconds.

So every minute you can have 2 rounds of production from the remaining 600 mins/200 gas (200 mins lost to pylons).

There is no way to get 8 units out of 600 mins/200 gas. Physically impossible. Best you can do is 5 zealots/2 sentries.

You can almost support 4 gates. But you can't support it. And this doesn't even take into account chronoboosting your warpgates.

/discussion

Back on topic to the games.

Why did you factor the pylon into the calculations? The protoss can just continually attack and will lose supply in the process.


He assumes that the 4 gater will continue warping in units and never attacking until he runs out of minerals to continue warping in units, obviously. 4 gate can be sustained if you attack with your units and stop probes at saturation.

http://haploid.nl/sc2/unit_production/protoss.php
日本語が分かりますか
Daniel C
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong1606 Posts
June 30 2011 07:05 GMT
#1012
Um...the supply block is not a mistake Wolf. You will get blocked if you go CC before 2nd depot.
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.
Cadaver!!
Profile Joined December 2010
Hungary390 Posts
June 30 2011 07:05 GMT
#1013
On June 30 2011 16:03 Azzur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2011 15:57 DoomsVille wrote:
Even if you make 30 probes

Your income is roughly 800 mins/minute and 200 gas/min.

Per round of warp in, you have to make a pylon. A warp-in with zealots/sentries is ~ 30 in game seconds.

So every minute you can have 2 rounds of production from the remaining 600 mins/200 gas (200 mins lost to pylons).

There is no way to get 8 units out of 600 mins/200 gas. Physically impossible. Best you can do is 5 zealots/2 sentries.

You can almost support 4 gates. But you can't support it. And this doesn't even take into account chronoboosting your warpgates.

/discussion

Back on topic to the games.

Why did you factor the pylon into the calculations? The protoss can just continually attack and will lose supply in the process.

If the discussion is about can you sustain 4 gate on one base with ~30 probes than the pylons should be included in the calculation.
I have a folder labeled day9_dailies where I store my horseporn. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
June 30 2011 07:06 GMT
#1014
3gate blink from Tassadar?
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
June 30 2011 07:06 GMT
#1015
On June 30 2011 15:52 travis wrote:
yeah... im done arguing with you guys

why don't you go try making 30 probes, put 6 on gas, make 4gateways, and then make guys and use chronoboosts and tell me if you can do it or not and then we can all laugh but mostly me


No, you're right. Wolf and Artosis have no idea what the fuck they're talking about. You should go do the commentating for GSL.
Arishok
Profile Joined June 2011
125 Posts
June 30 2011 07:07 GMT
#1016
Genius's DT expand worked because he is a better player than his opponent.

If your DT don't do any damage, it's not a very good build, there are more economic openings that are also safe.

It just happens to be a build that is easy to do damage against poor players.
PeggyHill
Profile Joined February 2011
1494 Posts
June 30 2011 07:07 GMT
#1017
I hope he can FF the army out of the base!
Ghoststrikes
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1356 Posts
June 30 2011 07:08 GMT
#1018
btw right now tassadar totally isnt supporting his 4 gates with 26 probes.
Never say die
kochujang
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1226 Posts
June 30 2011 07:09 GMT
#1019
On June 30 2011 16:06 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2011 15:52 travis wrote:
yeah... im done arguing with you guys

why don't you go try making 30 probes, put 6 on gas, make 4gateways, and then make guys and use chronoboosts and tell me if you can do it or not and then we can all laugh but mostly me


No, you're right. Wolf and Artosis have no idea what the fuck they're talking about. You should go do the commentating for GSL.

Is Artosis commentating?
Yang Wenli
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2283 Posts
June 30 2011 07:09 GMT
#1020
Ugh Ryung, all you need to do is snipe that observer via scan.
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