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Sadly it seems I have to put this up yet again. Any of the following types of posts will be met with immediate bans:

Imbalance whine/Player bashing/Caster bashing/Stream complaining/Off topic arguing.

Stick to the games and enjoy the event and its free services and coverage.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
June 20 2011 10:34 GMT
#1961
On June 20 2011 19:30 PraetorianX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 19:22 darlhet wrote:
so sad for naniwa currently there are no foreigners able to compete with the koreans, i dont get why .
i mean torch said somethign very smart about it: foreigner pros are interacting a lot with the comunity and not focusing nearly enough on the game, on the long term we're going to see the koreans dominating once again if the trend doesnt change.
and that's exactly what's happening


No offense but that's a pretty stupid comment from Torch. Interacting with the community doesn't make you a worse gamer by any means. Korean dominance has more do to with the (politically incorrect) fact that the average intelligence is higher in Korea and in East Asia in general, and that is also the reason China is pumping out millions of engineers and scientists, and Japan is a leader in hi-tech industries.


[image loading]

And that's a big part of the reason why we see Koreans dominating these competitions.

I'm really interested to see greenlanders play starcraft.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
June 20 2011 10:35 GMT
#1962
Wtf...Moon beating Nani, July beating Sen, HuK beating Socke.

Would never have called it.

youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 20 2011 10:35 GMT
#1963
On June 20 2011 19:32 Nesquik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 19:30 PraetorianX wrote:
On June 20 2011 19:22 darlhet wrote:
so sad for naniwa currently there are no foreigners able to compete with the koreans, i dont get why .
i mean torch said somethign very smart about it: foreigner pros are interacting a lot with the comunity and not focusing nearly enough on the game, on the long term we're going to see the koreans dominating once again if the trend doesnt change.
and that's exactly what's happening


No offense but that's a pretty stupid comment from Torch. Interacting with the community doesn't make you a worse gamer by any means. Korean dominance has more do to with the (politically incorrect) fact that the average intelligence is higher in Korea and in East Asia in general, and that is also the reason China is pumping out millions of engineers and scientists, and Japan is a leader in hi-tech industries.


[image loading]

And that's a big part of the reason why we see Koreans dominating these competitions.


So you are saying that we won't have any African SC2 Programmers due to they average IQ being so low.

I think they'd sue Blizzard for racial discrimination if that were true.

lalala
JKira
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada1002 Posts
June 20 2011 10:35 GMT
#1964
On June 20 2011 19:32 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 19:28 JKira wrote:
On June 20 2011 19:27 FakeDeath wrote:
Huk is just lucky look at his bracket please.Although his skill is somewhat okay, its not top notch .i predict bomber or july will take this tournament


He 2-0'ed Moon then Moon 2-0'ed Nani.


What are you implying?


That he's actually playing like a top foreigner at the moment.
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
June 20 2011 10:35 GMT
#1965
On June 20 2011 19:25 lunchforthesky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 19:23 Ocedic wrote:
Just out of curiosity, if Huk hypothetically won, would people count him as a foreign player or a Korean player?

There's so much lamenting here over Korean dominance, yet Huk is not out yet, and he's proven that he can definitely keep up with Korean players. He did beat MMA, after all.


It demonstrates beyond all doubt that the only way to be top level in this game is to train in Korea.

I think that's already been proven with MLG and now Dreamhack. However, I would make the distinction that it's not necessarily training IN Korea so much as training LIKE Korea. I believe that if there were pro houses dedicated to practicing like a full time job foreigners would be just as good. In my opinion, it is the practice system, not the location that is the Koreans' strength.
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
ribboo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1842 Posts
June 20 2011 10:36 GMT
#1966
On June 20 2011 19:34 Telcontar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 19:30 PraetorianX wrote:
On June 20 2011 19:22 darlhet wrote:
so sad for naniwa currently there are no foreigners able to compete with the koreans, i dont get why .
i mean torch said somethign very smart about it: foreigner pros are interacting a lot with the comunity and not focusing nearly enough on the game, on the long term we're going to see the koreans dominating once again if the trend doesnt change.
and that's exactly what's happening


No offense but that's a pretty stupid comment from Torch. Interacting with the community doesn't make you a worse gamer by any means. Korean dominance has more do to with the (politically incorrect) fact that the average intelligence is higher in Korea and in East Asia in general, and that is also the reason China is pumping out millions of engineers and scientists, and Japan is a leader in hi-tech industries.


[image loading]

And that's a big part of the reason why we see Koreans dominating these competitions.

I'm really interested to see greenlanders play starcraft.

why n/a aint cool
darlhet
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy548 Posts
June 20 2011 10:36 GMT
#1967
On June 20 2011 19:32 MrKn4rz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 19:30 PraetorianX wrote:
On June 20 2011 19:22 darlhet wrote:
so sad for naniwa currently there are no foreigners able to compete with the koreans, i dont get why .
i mean torch said somethign very smart about it: foreigner pros are interacting a lot with the comunity and not focusing nearly enough on the game, on the long term we're going to see the koreans dominating once again if the trend doesnt change.
and that's exactly what's happening


No offense but that's a pretty stupid comment from Torch. Interacting with the community doesn't make you a worse gamer by any means. Korean dominance has more do to with the (politically incorrect) fact that the average intelligence is higher in Korea and in East Asia in general, and that is also the reason China is pumping out millions of engineers and scientists, and Japan is a leader in hi-tech industries.


[image loading]

And that's a big part of the reason why we see Koreans dominating these competitions.

I think its the most important part is that all[!] of the Koreans live in Teamhouse and have a Trainer.

it does , since pros are not really caring about improving their games as much as improving their images
"i feel like im wasting your time" qxc to whitera after getting crushed 0-4
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 10:37:09
June 20 2011 10:36 GMT
#1968
Wrong thread.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 20 2011 10:36 GMT
#1969
On June 20 2011 19:34 Telcontar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 19:30 PraetorianX wrote:
On June 20 2011 19:22 darlhet wrote:
so sad for naniwa currently there are no foreigners able to compete with the koreans, i dont get why .
i mean torch said somethign very smart about it: foreigner pros are interacting a lot with the comunity and not focusing nearly enough on the game, on the long term we're going to see the koreans dominating once again if the trend doesnt change.
and that's exactly what's happening


No offense but that's a pretty stupid comment from Torch. Interacting with the community doesn't make you a worse gamer by any means. Korean dominance has more do to with the (politically incorrect) fact that the average intelligence is higher in Korea and in East Asia in general, and that is also the reason China is pumping out millions of engineers and scientists, and Japan is a leader in hi-tech industries.


[image loading]

And that's a big part of the reason why we see Koreans dominating these competitions.

I'm really interested to see greenlanders play starcraft.

The picture made its rounds on reddit a few weeks ago, the majority pointed out it's inaccuracy: Look at North Korea.
lalala
LDdota
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1465 Posts
June 20 2011 10:36 GMT
#1970
IQ is an extremely controversial measurement in the psychological community and is not widely accepted as a true measure of intelligence. But thanks for demonstrating why your country isn't purple in this diagram!
DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
June 20 2011 10:36 GMT
#1971
Some nice psytrance on day9 stream. Good to hear instead of that annoying dubstep crap.
Rococo
Profile Joined May 2011
United States331 Posts
June 20 2011 10:37 GMT
#1972
On June 20 2011 19:33 PraetorianX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 19:32 MrKn4rz wrote:
On June 20 2011 19:30 PraetorianX wrote:
On June 20 2011 19:22 darlhet wrote:
so sad for naniwa currently there are no foreigners able to compete with the koreans, i dont get why .
i mean torch said somethign very smart about it: foreigner pros are interacting a lot with the comunity and not focusing nearly enough on the game, on the long term we're going to see the koreans dominating once again if the trend doesnt change.
and that's exactly what's happening


No offense but that's a pretty stupid comment from Torch. Interacting with the community doesn't make you a worse gamer by any means. Korean dominance has more do to with the (politically incorrect) fact that the average intelligence is higher in Korea and in East Asia in general, and that is also the reason China is pumping out millions of engineers and scientists, and Japan is a leader in hi-tech industries.


[image loading]

And that's a big part of the reason why we see Koreans dominating these competitions.

I think its the most important part is that all[!] of the Koreans live in Teamhouse and have a Trainer.


That's the politically correct explanation yes, but I don't think it's a good explanation.


Uh, why? It's a variable that separates Korea from the rest of the world, which high IQ scores are not. Is Japan dominating? No. Is China dominating? No.

Really it seems obvious to me that Koreans are better because more of them practice harder. Why is this even a debate?
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 10:38:43
June 20 2011 10:37 GMT
#1973
A re-match between huk and moon would be awesome, especially after hwo they had awesome matches between each other in the group stage.

And I think torch's comment was misunderstood..he said some people are spending too much time doing shows and other such things instead of practicing hands on. He did not say interacting with teh community is bad.

And please dont link iq and sc2..and generalize the population traits. lol and iq itself is a pretty debatable method of measuring something as complex as intelligence.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4758 Posts
June 20 2011 10:37 GMT
#1974
On June 20 2011 19:30 PraetorianX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 19:22 darlhet wrote:
so sad for naniwa currently there are no foreigners able to compete with the koreans, i dont get why .
i mean torch said somethign very smart about it: foreigner pros are interacting a lot with the comunity and not focusing nearly enough on the game, on the long term we're going to see the koreans dominating once again if the trend doesnt change.
and that's exactly what's happening


No offense but that's a pretty stupid comment from Torch. Interacting with the community doesn't make you a worse gamer by any means. Korean dominance has more do to with the (politically incorrect) fact that the average intelligence is higher in Korea and in East Asia in general, and that is also the reason China is pumping out millions of engineers and scientists, and Japan is a leader in hi-tech industries.


[image loading]

And that's a big part of the reason why we see Koreans dominating these competitions.

What do you say to that kind of argument? I guess nothing would be the best choice.

Let me count the number of world class asian chess players really quick... oh, that didn't take long. Maybe culture has a little to do with it in the end, but I don't know, my IQ is only western european.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
anatem
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania1369 Posts
June 20 2011 10:37 GMT
#1975
LOL (not) at this ro8, none of the guys i was rooting for advanced, guess the only one i'd care about winning a bit would be Huk, but not even.
'Tis with our Judgements as our Watches, none / Go just alike, yet each believes his own.
Nerdslayer
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark1130 Posts
June 20 2011 10:37 GMT
#1976
Are there any interviewes with Jinro or somehting why he is performing so badly l8tly?
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 10:40:05
June 20 2011 10:37 GMT
#1977
On June 20 2011 19:30 PraetorianX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 19:22 darlhet wrote:
so sad for naniwa currently there are no foreigners able to compete with the koreans, i dont get why .
i mean torch said somethign very smart about it: foreigner pros are interacting a lot with the comunity and not focusing nearly enough on the game, on the long term we're going to see the koreans dominating once again if the trend doesnt change.
and that's exactly what's happening


No offense but that's a pretty stupid comment from Torch. Interacting with the community doesn't make you a worse gamer by any means. Korean dominance has more do to with the (politically incorrect) fact that the average intelligence is higher in Korea and in East Asia in general, and that is also the reason China is pumping out millions of engineers and scientists, and Japan is a leader in hi-tech industries.


[image loading]

And that's a big part of the reason why we see Koreans dominating these competitions.

Where did you get that chart? Stormfront? Keep your racist shit outta here.

Oh and if players were top smart they would not be gamers but surgeons and scientists.
MC for president
redloser
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1751 Posts
June 20 2011 10:37 GMT
#1978
On June 20 2011 19:33 PraetorianX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 19:32 MrKn4rz wrote:
On June 20 2011 19:30 PraetorianX wrote:
On June 20 2011 19:22 darlhet wrote:
so sad for naniwa currently there are no foreigners able to compete with the koreans, i dont get why .
i mean torch said somethign very smart about it: foreigner pros are interacting a lot with the comunity and not focusing nearly enough on the game, on the long term we're going to see the koreans dominating once again if the trend doesnt change.
and that's exactly what's happening


No offense but that's a pretty stupid comment from Torch. Interacting with the community doesn't make you a worse gamer by any means. Korean dominance has more do to with the (politically incorrect) fact that the average intelligence is higher in Korea and in East Asia in general, and that is also the reason China is pumping out millions of engineers and scientists, and Japan is a leader in hi-tech industries.


[image loading]

And that's a big part of the reason why we see Koreans dominating these competitions.

I think its the most important part is that all[!] of the Koreans live in Teamhouse and have a Trainer.


That's the politically correct explanation yes, but I don't think it's a good explanation.




yeah so u wanna insist westerners are genetically inferior to asians in sc2?


what a stupid comment.
MrKn4rz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2153 Posts
June 20 2011 10:37 GMT
#1979
On June 20 2011 19:36 NowLookHere wrote:
IQ is an extremely controversial measurement in the psychological community and is not widely accepted as a true measure of intelligence. But thanks for demonstrating why your country isn't purple in this diagram!

QFT
"We don't take kindly to folks who don't take kindly around here..."
gm.tOSS
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany898 Posts
June 20 2011 10:38 GMT
#1980
On June 20 2011 19:37 Malinor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 19:30 PraetorianX wrote:
On June 20 2011 19:22 darlhet wrote:
so sad for naniwa currently there are no foreigners able to compete with the koreans, i dont get why .
i mean torch said somethign very smart about it: foreigner pros are interacting a lot with the comunity and not focusing nearly enough on the game, on the long term we're going to see the koreans dominating once again if the trend doesnt change.
and that's exactly what's happening


No offense but that's a pretty stupid comment from Torch. Interacting with the community doesn't make you a worse gamer by any means. Korean dominance has more do to with the (politically incorrect) fact that the average intelligence is higher in Korea and in East Asia in general, and that is also the reason China is pumping out millions of engineers and scientists, and Japan is a leader in hi-tech industries.


[image loading]

And that's a big part of the reason why we see Koreans dominating these competitions.

What do you say to that kind of argument? I guess nothing would be the best choice.

Let me count the number of world class asian chess players really quick... oh, that didn't take long. Maybe culture has a little to do with it in the end, but I don't know, my IQ is only western european.

Try counting world class non asian go professionals. You'll only need one hand.
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