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Sadly it seems I have to put this up yet again. Any of the following types of posts will be met with immediate bans:

Imbalance whine/Player bashing/Caster bashing/Stream complaining/Off topic arguing.

Stick to the games and enjoy the event and its free services and coverage.
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
June 20 2011 10:29 GMT
#1921
PoltPrime just picked Huk
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
June 20 2011 10:29 GMT
#1922
lol speaking of HuK, he's in Killer's and Polt's group.

when do the next games start? im not good with the foreign times.
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
June 20 2011 10:29 GMT
#1923
On June 20 2011 19:27 Entropic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 19:26 AndAgain wrote:
Terrans now are making fewer medivacs and more vikings in TvP and dominating. It's mind boggling how something that seems so simple took so long for them to discover.


Or... Bomber is just really really good?


Yes... what does that have to do with what I said?
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
June 20 2011 10:29 GMT
#1924
On June 20 2011 19:27 Entropic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 19:26 AndAgain wrote:
Terrans now are making fewer medivacs and more vikings in TvP and dominating. It's mind boggling how something that seems so simple took so long for them to discover.


Or... Bomber is just really really good?


Yeah - and Protoss recently switch faster to storm so your mass Vikings will meet 2 Colossi and are kind of useless then. Its mind boggling how people that don't play anywhere near the top of anything make assumptions.

Its all about counters. If he goes 2 robo and you go 2 starport, he's pretty much fucked. If you go 2 starports, he scouts it and tricks you with colossus production and has early storm (given he's not bad and clumps all HTs) you will probably be fucked.

Its not just about medivac/viking count.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
cuppatea
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1401 Posts
June 20 2011 10:29 GMT
#1925
On June 20 2011 19:23 Ocedic wrote:
Just out of curiosity, if Huk hypothetically won, would people count him as a foreign player or a Korean player?

There's so much lamenting here over Korean dominance, yet Huk is not out yet, and he's proven that he can definitely keep up with Korean players. He did beat MMA, after all.


No one is saying that the Koreans are genetically superior, just that their scene is much stronger than ours. Huk is part of the Korean scene and so him winning would only be further proof of that.
AngryFarmer
Profile Joined June 2011
United States560 Posts
June 20 2011 10:30 GMT
#1926
lol i wonder if they are gonna tell huk now or if they are gnona tell him afterwards... maybe it'll mess with him if huk finds out about polt
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 10:31:59
June 20 2011 10:30 GMT
#1927
On June 20 2011 19:29 AndAgain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 19:27 Entropic wrote:
On June 20 2011 19:26 AndAgain wrote:
Terrans now are making fewer medivacs and more vikings in TvP and dominating. It's mind boggling how something that seems so simple took so long for them to discover.


Or... Bomber is just really really good?


Yes... what does that have to do with what I said?

Terrans have been doing that for a long time. And by long time I mean for nearly a year. Dunno what you've been watching :/

In fact they've done it for so long that Naniwa came up with the 2 Colossus w/ range timing attack while completely transitioning into an Immortal double Forge for upgrades plus twilight -> templar tech to take advantage of the overproduction of Vikings which is in popular use in Europe I believe.
lalala
Nivity
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden371 Posts
June 20 2011 10:30 GMT
#1928
Not only is HUK in the same group as Polt in code-s

The other group if he advances got MC+Inca ;O

Poor Huk.
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 10:31:47
June 20 2011 10:30 GMT
#1929
Bomber and MC should have been finals could use more games. Congrats bomber!

Oh for those saying "better" they are now 7 and 7 lifetime.
MC for president
Eury
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden1126 Posts
June 20 2011 10:30 GMT
#1930
On June 20 2011 19:27 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 19:22 Evangelist wrote:
Not sure why Naniwa and Hasu crumble every single time they plays a Korean yet they beat Thorzain who has incredible, close games against Koreans.

There's something not adding up here.

Also, Thorzain did beat Naniwa in a best of seven for tsl3. Most would take that as an endorsement of Thorzain being better than Naniwa.



Yeah, one boX dictates who is the better player. Especially when the player that lost pretty much gave the last game in the series away when it was pretty much won.

PraetorianX
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden780 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 10:31:28
June 20 2011 10:30 GMT
#1931
On June 20 2011 19:22 darlhet wrote:
so sad for naniwa currently there are no foreigners able to compete with the koreans, i dont get why .
i mean torch said somethign very smart about it: foreigner pros are interacting a lot with the comunity and not focusing nearly enough on the game, on the long term we're going to see the koreans dominating once again if the trend doesnt change.
and that's exactly what's happening


No offense but that's a pretty stupid comment from Torch. Interacting with the community doesn't make you a worse gamer by any means. Korean dominance has more do to with the (politically incorrect) fact that the average intelligence is higher in Korea and in East Asia in general, and that is also the reason China is pumping out millions of engineers and scientists, and Japan is a leader in hi-tech industries.


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And that's a big part of the reason why we see Koreans dominating these competitions.

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The best argument against democracy is a 5-minute conversation with the average voter - Winston Churchill
Spiner
Profile Joined February 2011
United States360 Posts
June 20 2011 10:30 GMT
#1932
Korean terrans know how to play terran way better then foreigners. I think that's partly because terran as a race does exponentially better when microed correctly, and Koreans have really good micro.
PeggyHill
Profile Joined February 2011
1494 Posts
June 20 2011 10:31 GMT
#1933
Hard to know what MC did wrong in that game. Scouted the hidden expo, denied the third, all while teching to HT and colo.

Perhaps his upgrades weren't there? PvT performance seems to be a strong function of upgrades, for both sides :D
Nexic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States729 Posts
June 20 2011 10:31 GMT
#1934
On June 20 2011 19:25 lunchforthesky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 19:23 Ocedic wrote:
Just out of curiosity, if Huk hypothetically won, would people count him as a foreign player or a Korean player?

There's so much lamenting here over Korean dominance, yet Huk is not out yet, and he's proven that he can definitely keep up with Korean players. He did beat MMA, after all.


It demonstrates beyond all doubt that the only way to be top level in this game is to train in Korea.
No it doesn't rofl, maybe what you're suggesting is true, but results from a single tournament don't prove that.
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
June 20 2011 10:31 GMT
#1935
I think Polt does not like the foreigners.I rerember he said Jinro wins into the GSL Semis twice was merely luck.
Play your best
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 10:33:13
June 20 2011 10:32 GMT
#1936
On June 20 2011 19:31 Nexic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 19:25 lunchforthesky wrote:
On June 20 2011 19:23 Ocedic wrote:
Just out of curiosity, if Huk hypothetically won, would people count him as a foreign player or a Korean player?

There's so much lamenting here over Korean dominance, yet Huk is not out yet, and he's proven that he can definitely keep up with Korean players. He did beat MMA, after all.


It demonstrates beyond all doubt that the only way to be top level in this game is to train in Korea.
No it doesn't rofl, maybe what you're suggesting is true, but results from a single tournament don't prove that.

*two

Most people accepted that the Korean scene was far ahead after Columbus, however there were a few that clung onto the fact that lots of Europeans didn't play in Columbus.

Well now here's DreamHack ^^
lalala
TheResidentEvil
Profile Joined September 2010
United States991 Posts
June 20 2011 10:32 GMT
#1937
HuK, if you are going to lose in the finals then just lose now please so i can sleep.
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
June 20 2011 10:32 GMT
#1938
On June 20 2011 19:31 FakeDeath wrote:
I think Polt does not like the foreigners.I rerember he said Jinro wins into the GSL Semis twice was merely luck.


I'll remember this once Huk smashes him in Code-S
We make signature, then defense it.
btz_eXhausted
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden47 Posts
June 20 2011 10:32 GMT
#1939
On June 20 2011 19:29 Femari wrote:
lol speaking of HuK, he's in Killer's and Polt's group.

when do the next games start? im not good with the foreign times.

~30 min
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
June 20 2011 10:32 GMT
#1940
On June 20 2011 19:28 JKira wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 19:27 FakeDeath wrote:
Huk is just lucky look at his bracket please.Although his skill is somewhat okay, its not top notch .i predict bomber or july will take this tournament


He 2-0'ed Moon then Moon 2-0'ed Nani.


What are you implying?
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