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Sadly it seems I have to put this up yet again. Any of the following types of posts will be met with immediate bans:

Imbalance whine/Player bashing/Caster bashing/Stream complaining/Off topic arguing.

Stick to the games and enjoy the event and its free services and coverage.
Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
June 20 2011 10:25 GMT
#1881
Haha MC on the phone to gsl group ceremony. Still a complete boss.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 20 2011 10:25 GMT
#1882
On June 20 2011 19:24 weiliem wrote:
I dont understand y mc always doesnt do upgrades..... zealots are so much stronger with armor upgrades while colossus are so much stronger with weapon upgrades.... can any1 explain to me y??

he had 2-0
unfortunately bomber had 2-2
lalala
lunchforthesky
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom967 Posts
June 20 2011 10:25 GMT
#1883
On June 20 2011 19:23 Ocedic wrote:
Just out of curiosity, if Huk hypothetically won, would people count him as a foreign player or a Korean player?

There's so much lamenting here over Korean dominance, yet Huk is not out yet, and he's proven that he can definitely keep up with Korean players. He did beat MMA, after all.


It demonstrates beyond all doubt that the only way to be top level in this game is to train in Korea.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
June 20 2011 10:25 GMT
#1884
On June 20 2011 19:24 Nightmare1795 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 19:20 setzer wrote:
Very disappointing tournament from the foreign players. After MLG, so many Europeans were talking about how the best EU players weren't there and to look towards DH for the real foreign showing. What happened? EU didn't show up one bit. Kas, Happy and others who have such stellar online results didn't even get out of group stages. And I think if the Korean distribution was a little better we would see all four of them in the semi's.

Hard to deny Korea isn't very far ahead after MLG and now DH ...

I remember multiple Europeans saying WhiteRa is the best Protoss in the world and/or the best foreign Protoss. I'm not sure if they truly believed that but hopefully this tournament will bring them back to reality.

He's easily one of the best foreign protoss' even though he can be a little uneven. Even so, foreigner vs korean disparity is maaaassive so it doesn't really mean much. ^^
Nivity
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden371 Posts
June 20 2011 10:26 GMT
#1885
On June 20 2011 19:25 crappen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 19:22 Dumboprime wrote:
MC gotta co-cast july vs huk now


Please please please let this happen TB.


Only mainstream from now on.
So kinda hard :D
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
June 20 2011 10:26 GMT
#1886
Terrans now are making fewer medivacs and more vikings in TvP and dominating. It's mind boggling how something that seems so simple took so long for them to discover.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
Zinnwaldite
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1567 Posts
June 20 2011 10:26 GMT
#1887
The europeans and american players need to lock themselves in a basement and train non stop,, if they don't the gap keep getting wider..

Bomber will win this tournament,, i'm pretty sure of that.
We promise with a view to hope, but the reason to "accomplish" what we promised would be fear.
Zeroxk
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway1244 Posts
June 20 2011 10:26 GMT
#1888
On June 20 2011 19:24 weiliem wrote:
I dont understand y mc always doesnt do upgrades..... zealots are so much stronger with armor upgrades while colossus are so much stronger with weapon upgrades.... can any1 explain to me y??


He was way behind so he had to put out tons of units, giving him no money for upgrades.
Think about it, if he did get upgrades he couldn't chronoboost warpgates and his army would be smaller, and then look at how close those battles were.
hydraden
Profile Joined April 2010
United States719 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 10:26:40
June 20 2011 10:26 GMT
#1889
On June 20 2011 19:20 ForTheDr3am wrote:
I feel MC doesn't allin enough in PvT anymore. His game is so solid, but a bit too predictable atm.


His late game is not great, expansion timing is usually a bit late. In last game, he should double expand once he got lead in early game(3rd and 4th together). He focus more on timing attacks than economy.
darlhet
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy548 Posts
June 20 2011 10:26 GMT
#1890
On June 20 2011 19:24 Nightmare1795 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 19:20 setzer wrote:
Very disappointing tournament from the foreign players. After MLG, so many Europeans were talking about how the best EU players weren't there and to look towards DH for the real foreign showing. What happened? EU didn't show up one bit. Kas, Happy and others who have such stellar online results didn't even get out of group stages. And I think if the Korean distribution was a little better we would see all four of them in the semi's.

Hard to deny Korea isn't very far ahead after MLG and now DH ...

I remember multiple Europeans saying WhiteRa is the best Protoss in the world and/or the best foreign Protoss. I'm not sure if they truly believed that but hopefully this tournament will bring them back to reality.

whitera's pvp is on par with the koreans (going 2-3 vs MC because of a proxy 2 gate) and his pvt is stellar, just his pvz is really horrible hence his lost vs Moon
"i feel like im wasting your time" qxc to whitera after getting crushed 0-4
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
June 20 2011 10:26 GMT
#1891
On June 20 2011 19:23 Ocedic wrote:
Just out of curiosity, if Huk hypothetically won, would people count him as a foreign player or a Korean player?

There's so much lamenting here over Korean dominance, yet Huk is not out yet, and he's proven that he can definitely keep up with Korean players. He did beat MMA, after all.

Foreigner, but with a Korean playstyle.
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 20 2011 10:26 GMT
#1892
On June 20 2011 19:25 crappen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 19:22 Dumboprime wrote:
MC gotta co-cast july vs huk now


Please please please let this happen TB.

all games from now on are on mainstream, if my schedule is correct
lalala
Defeat
Profile Joined March 2010
United States476 Posts
June 20 2011 10:26 GMT
#1893
Noooo, naniwa :[ Figured he would walk over Moon, guess Moon has been training quite a bit.

Great games between Bomber and MC. While I wanted MC to win, I can't say I'm too disappointed with the results since the games were very fun to watch.
"the metagame has really evolved to the point where the best chance to win the metagame is to game the metagame" -Bags
Notfragile
Profile Joined April 2011
Greece713 Posts
June 20 2011 10:26 GMT
#1894
I don't really get what's your problem with the "all Korean" top 4. It is merely a logical consecuence of the training and money put on e-sports in Korea.

It is as simple as that: Those people practice starcraft full time, practicing against other professionals and having to compete over the hardest trophy in sc2, the gsl. If they could not get that top 4, that would mean that either they have some genetic disadvantage or that "foreigners" have the genetic advantage. This is absolutely not possible.

Huk rolls over everyone in this tournament. Why?? Not because he is Korean, but because his ladder games are against other pros. Foreigner ladder games have DEFINATELY lower level opponents. Also, the coaching and mentoring going on at the Korean houses, is definately showing.

I don't mean i would rather see Koreans. I have high hopes for Sheth, T-zain, Nani and everyone who might go there. People leave Korea either pros or burned out.
"The art of war is of vital importance to the state" || MVP.Keen fan since the day he stole my heart with a double 2rax. http://i.imgur.com/A82cl.gif
AngryFarmer
Profile Joined June 2011
United States560 Posts
June 20 2011 10:26 GMT
#1895
man i hope moon plays good... he's kind of inconsistent with his play
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
June 20 2011 10:26 GMT
#1896
On June 20 2011 19:23 Klogon wrote:
Need something to do for 40 minutes? Check out the broodwar streams =D

Strange ho I like watching individual BW games, but cannot get into team leagues, yet in SC2 I love watching them. Well I love GSTL format, not really EGMC format, although 2v2 are fun sometimes.
ForTheDr3am
Profile Joined November 2010
842 Posts
June 20 2011 10:26 GMT
#1897
On June 20 2011 19:22 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 19:20 setzer wrote:
Very disappointing tournament from the foreign players. After MLG, so many Europeans were talking about how the best EU players weren't there and to look towards DH for the real foreign showing. What happened? EU didn't show up one bit. Kas, Happy and others who have such stellar online results didn't even get out of group stages. And I think if the Korean distribution was a little better we would see all four of them in the semi's.

Hard to deny Korea isn't very far ahead after MLG and now DH ...


Yup, the foreigner showing at MLG was actually way better IMHO. I expected the competition to be better here, but alas it really was not.



The only difference was that Idra played well at MLG and not so well at DH.
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
June 20 2011 10:27 GMT
#1898
On June 20 2011 19:26 AndAgain wrote:
Terrans now are making fewer medivacs and more vikings in TvP and dominating. It's mind boggling how something that seems so simple took so long for them to discover.


Or... Bomber is just really really good?
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
June 20 2011 10:27 GMT
#1899
On June 20 2011 19:24 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 19:23 Dariusz wrote:
On June 20 2011 19:20 hydraden wrote:
On June 20 2011 19:17 Skyze wrote:
Moon vs Bomber should be the finals =[


Moon can not beat huk, how can this match be the finals?


You realize he just defeated Naniwa? Lol troll thread is troll.

You realize Huk beat Moon 2-0 in group play right?


Huk was so far ahead after the Metalopolis opening and won the 2nd game with a DT rush. Otherwise the games would be a lot closer if you ask me. But we will see. Also July has to play HuK, not moon.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
June 20 2011 10:27 GMT
#1900
On June 20 2011 19:22 Evangelist wrote:
Not sure why Naniwa and Hasu crumble every single time they plays a Korean yet they beat Thorzain who has incredible, close games against Koreans.

There's something not adding up here.

Thorzain plays terran? Not trying to troll about balance, it just seems like Thorzain has been playing in a period of T stability/domination in general in the korean scene. It could be that koreans don't have ZvT and PvT as figured out as they do tvp/zvp/pvp on the current map pool.

Also, Thorzain did beat Naniwa in a best of seven for tsl3. Most would take that as an endorsement of Thorzain being better than Naniwa.

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