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Sadly it seems I have to put this up yet again. Any of the following types of posts will be met with immediate bans:
Imbalance whine/Player bashing/Caster bashing/Stream complaining/Off topic arguing.
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working again on 240p!!!!!! for me atleast
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On June 20 2011 23:05 TheBB wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 23:04 youngminii wrote:Game 1 StartBomber V MoonCurrent score: 0-0 Map: Crossfire SE  Bomber at 1 o'clock  Moon at 7 o'clock You are either late or wrong. whoops that's meant to be july
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if your stream isnt working, reload. Works for me
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On June 20 2011 23:03 zerious wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 23:03 David451 wrote:On June 20 2011 22:58 shizna wrote:On June 20 2011 22:37 shikheh wrote:On June 20 2011 22:36 shizna wrote: i didn't want to say anything before, but bomber was hugely disappointing in this tournament.
i didn't see anything special. he's like julyzerg but terran. very aggressive and solid play, but so risky and cocky - cheese/hidden expo etc. consistantly disappointing even from his first group match, definitely not deserving of winning the tournament.
mana and happy could have beaten him in the group stages with a bit of luck. You have got to be kidding me. Is that why all the korean players in GSL are so scared of him? Give me a break. obviously he's a good player. but his demonstration of skill at dreamhack summer has been lacking. i can't recall a single series in this tournament that bomber won through simply outclassing his opponent. look at his first game versus happy on xel'naga caverns. happy's skill was easily on the level of bomber, but unfortunately happy failed to spot the hidden expo which cost him the game (and similar in game2 plus the cheese). in the final game against MC, he won because MC was trying too hard to get the experimental archon composition right from the start. hence the mass zealots and almost skipping colossus, such a fragile build in PvT because you need sentry to survive but that makes your zealots weak as hell. bomber just went standard and practically won with an a-move. players like MC, MMA, nestea and MVP look so good. you can tell it's them because of insanely good decision making, control and taking 'unusual' strategies and making them insanely good. bomber's decision making looks sloppy. i was expecting a lot more... imo MMA looks a much better player. Bomber is #1 ELO worldwide - http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/detailed_elo.php?section=sc2-korean& ELO is not good in SC2, most of his games are from tournaments that most of the top players didn't even compete in Bomber loses a single Bo3 and suddenly his rank #1 ELO doesn't matter.
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On June 20 2011 23:01 Zorgaz wrote: My stream isn't working =/.
Been working up till now, and i have great internet speed here at work so it's no that :S
Still not working -.-'
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On June 20 2011 23:04 youngminii wrote:Game 1 StartBomber V MoonCurrent score: 0-0 Map: Crossfire SE  Bomber at 1 o'clock  Moon at 7 o'clock Wrong player?
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On June 20 2011 23:03 David451 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 22:58 shizna wrote:On June 20 2011 22:37 shikheh wrote:On June 20 2011 22:36 shizna wrote: i didn't want to say anything before, but bomber was hugely disappointing in this tournament.
i didn't see anything special. he's like julyzerg but terran. very aggressive and solid play, but so risky and cocky - cheese/hidden expo etc. consistantly disappointing even from his first group match, definitely not deserving of winning the tournament.
mana and happy could have beaten him in the group stages with a bit of luck. You have got to be kidding me. Is that why all the korean players in GSL are so scared of him? Give me a break. obviously he's a good player. but his demonstration of skill at dreamhack summer has been lacking. i can't recall a single series in this tournament that bomber won through simply outclassing his opponent. look at his first game versus happy on xel'naga caverns. happy's skill was easily on the level of bomber, but unfortunately happy failed to spot the hidden expo which cost him the game (and similar in game2 plus the cheese). in the final game against MC, he won because MC was trying too hard to get the experimental archon composition right from the start. hence the mass zealots and almost skipping colossus, such a fragile build in PvT because you need sentry to survive but that makes your zealots weak as hell. bomber just went standard and practically won with an a-move. players like MC, MMA, nestea and MVP look so good. you can tell it's them because of insanely good decision making, control and taking 'unusual' strategies and making them insanely good. bomber's decision making looks sloppy. i was expecting a lot more... imo MMA looks a much better player. Bomber is #1 ELO worldwide - http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/detailed_elo.php?section=sc2-korean& That's korean ELO. Here's international http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/detailed-elo
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Just have to refresh people's memories. Moon played like a BOMB in the semi. Goddamn, maybe now he'll start earning some more people's respect which he HEAVILY deserves!
TAKE THIS FINAL MOON~~ FIGHTING
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On June 20 2011 23:03 zerious wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 23:03 David451 wrote:On June 20 2011 22:58 shizna wrote:On June 20 2011 22:37 shikheh wrote:On June 20 2011 22:36 shizna wrote: i didn't want to say anything before, but bomber was hugely disappointing in this tournament.
i didn't see anything special. he's like julyzerg but terran. very aggressive and solid play, but so risky and cocky - cheese/hidden expo etc. consistantly disappointing even from his first group match, definitely not deserving of winning the tournament.
mana and happy could have beaten him in the group stages with a bit of luck. You have got to be kidding me. Is that why all the korean players in GSL are so scared of him? Give me a break. obviously he's a good player. but his demonstration of skill at dreamhack summer has been lacking. i can't recall a single series in this tournament that bomber won through simply outclassing his opponent. look at his first game versus happy on xel'naga caverns. happy's skill was easily on the level of bomber, but unfortunately happy failed to spot the hidden expo which cost him the game (and similar in game2 plus the cheese). in the final game against MC, he won because MC was trying too hard to get the experimental archon composition right from the start. hence the mass zealots and almost skipping colossus, such a fragile build in PvT because you need sentry to survive but that makes your zealots weak as hell. bomber just went standard and practically won with an a-move. players like MC, MMA, nestea and MVP look so good. you can tell it's them because of insanely good decision making, control and taking 'unusual' strategies and making them insanely good. bomber's decision making looks sloppy. i was expecting a lot more... imo MMA looks a much better player. Bomber is #1 ELO worldwide - http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/detailed_elo.php?section=sc2-korean& ELO is not good in SC2, most of his games are from tournaments that most of the top players didn't even compete in
ELO is fine in the Korean scene because they only have tournaments that the top players compete in, it is the foreigner scene where it kind of sucks imo.
Most of this list is top level players... + Show Spoiler +http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=561&part=games&league=standard
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STOP SAYING THE STREAM DOESN'T WORK "in europe" YOU DON'T SPEAK FOR EVERYONE
works fine for me
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On June 20 2011 23:03 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 23:02 Skyze wrote:On June 20 2011 22:59 ChickenLips wrote:On June 20 2011 22:57 Daray wrote:On June 20 2011 22:55 ChickenLips wrote:On June 20 2011 22:44 Xception704 wrote:On June 20 2011 22:36 ChickenLips wrote:On June 20 2011 22:35 daxile wrote: so many moon doubters, where are you now ^^? Here I am, he went for extremely cheesy strategies in all 3 games and Bomber played right into his hands. Wow are you serious. 1. Bomber goes 2 port banshee all-in first game and gets lucky. 2. Moon beats Bomber in a straight-up macro game in game 2. 3. Bomber plays like shit in game 3 and gets straight up raped by Moon. 1 + 2 + 3 = Moon went for extremely cheesy strategies .......????? Don't be mad you lost money. Bomber was the cheesy one this series and Moon took advantage. I don't even like Moon (nor do I dislike him) but you're post is so full of shit; it's like you didn't even watch the game. 1. Baneling bust instead of teching to muta which is the correct response to 2 port banshee 2. Baneling bust, which got him a 30 drone lead, that he decided to drag out into a 37 minute game 3. Pure roach against Terran ... Need I say more? Had Bomber not suicided ALL his units into the fog of war + creep he would've won 100%. My head just exploded. I think you're obligated to come clean this shit up. None of those games were a solid Zerg style, he just turned out lucky in a Bo3, and if taking into account raw skill Bomber is certainly the better player, he just played really awfully. its amazing how much brainwash IdrA has people.. wow.. seriously? Idra? Wait, what?
It's like Godwin's law, IdrA will eventually dominate every debate regardless how it started...
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On June 20 2011 22:55 ChickenLips wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 22:44 Xception704 wrote:On June 20 2011 22:36 ChickenLips wrote:On June 20 2011 22:35 daxile wrote: so many moon doubters, where are you now ^^? Here I am, he went for extremely cheesy strategies in all 3 games and Bomber played right into his hands. Wow are you serious. 1. Bomber goes 2 port banshee all-in first game and gets lucky. 2. Moon beats Bomber in a straight-up macro game in game 2. 3. Bomber plays like shit in game 3 and gets straight up raped by Moon. 1 + 2 + 3 = Moon went for extremely cheesy strategies .......????? Don't be mad you lost money. Bomber was the cheesy one this series and Moon took advantage. I don't even like Moon (nor do I dislike him) but you're post is so full of shit; it's like you didn't even watch the game. 1. Baneling bust instead of teching to muta which is the correct response to 2 port banshee 2. Baneling bust, which got him a 30 drone lead, that he decided to drag out into a 37 minute game 3. Pure roach against Terran ... Need I say more? Had Bomber not suicided ALL his units into the fog of war + creep he would've won 100%.
1. According to Who ? Moon's reaction worked well until he underestimated mass banshees. 2. So you aren't allowed to respond to 3 CC Builds with some aggression (while having 3 bases and 40+ drones) 3. Moon responded to what he thought would be blue flame hellions. Moon then brilliantly intercepted the tank marine force and denied Bomber the time to siege up and inch foward. Even if bomber had been more careful, counter drops in bombers base (4-8 roaches) probably would have won it too
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On June 20 2011 23:05 Meancookie wrote: STOP SAYING THE STREAM DOESN'T WORK "in europe" YOU DON'T SPEAK FOR EVERYONE
works fine for me Same here, works no problem.
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Now the stream works for me again. 720p.
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On June 20 2011 23:04 youngminii wrote:Game 1 StartBomber V JulyCurrent score: 0-0 Map: Crossfire SE  Bomber at 1 o'clock  July at 7 o'clock 2:30 Bomber with a Maka rax in the middle of the map that an Overlord scouts. July goes Pool first.
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Game is up but you might need to put it on 240p
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On June 20 2011 22:59 Juffalo wrote: I don't usually root for Huk, but I'll make an exception when he's playing for a foreigner win at dreamhack. So Huk fighting !!!!!!!!! I'm in the same boat as you. Gogo HuK~
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