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Sadly it seems I have to put this up yet again. Any of the following types of posts will be met with immediate bans:

Imbalance whine/Player bashing/Caster bashing/Stream complaining/Off topic arguing.

Stick to the games and enjoy the event and its free services and coverage.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
June 20 2011 14:05 GMT
#5261
working again on 240p!!!!!! for me atleast
Dariusz
Profile Joined May 2011
Poland657 Posts
June 20 2011 14:05 GMT
#5262
Stream not working EU
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 20 2011 14:05 GMT
#5263
On June 20 2011 23:05 TheBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 23:04 youngminii wrote:
Game 1 Start
Bomber V Moon
Current score: 0-0
Map: Crossfire SE
Bomber at 1 o'clock
Moon at 7 o'clock

You are either late or wrong.

whoops that's meant to be july
lalala
TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
June 20 2011 14:05 GMT
#5264
if your stream isnt working, reload. Works for me
dr Helvetica <3
David451
Profile Joined October 2010
United States491 Posts
June 20 2011 14:05 GMT
#5265
On June 20 2011 23:03 zerious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 23:03 David451 wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:58 shizna wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:37 shikheh wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:36 shizna wrote:
i didn't want to say anything before, but bomber was hugely disappointing in this tournament.

i didn't see anything special. he's like julyzerg but terran. very aggressive and solid play, but so risky and cocky - cheese/hidden expo etc. consistantly disappointing even from his first group match, definitely not deserving of winning the tournament.


mana and happy could have beaten him in the group stages with a bit of luck.



You have got to be kidding me.

Is that why all the korean players in GSL are so scared of him?

Give me a break.


obviously he's a good player. but his demonstration of skill at dreamhack summer has been lacking.

i can't recall a single series in this tournament that bomber won through simply outclassing his opponent.

look at his first game versus happy on xel'naga caverns. happy's skill was easily on the level of bomber, but unfortunately happy failed to spot the hidden expo which cost him the game (and similar in game2 plus the cheese).

in the final game against MC, he won because MC was trying too hard to get the experimental archon composition right from the start. hence the mass zealots and almost skipping colossus, such a fragile build in PvT because you need sentry to survive but that makes your zealots weak as hell. bomber just went standard and practically won with an a-move.


players like MC, MMA, nestea and MVP look so good. you can tell it's them because of insanely good decision making, control and taking 'unusual' strategies and making them insanely good.

bomber's decision making looks sloppy.


i was expecting a lot more... imo MMA looks a much better player.

Bomber is #1 ELO worldwide - http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/detailed_elo.php?section=sc2-korean&


ELO is not good in SC2, most of his games are from tournaments that most of the top players didn't even compete in

Bomber loses a single Bo3 and suddenly his rank #1 ELO doesn't matter.
Shae: I don't want to play. Tyrion: It's fun! Look at the fun we're having!
Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
June 20 2011 14:05 GMT
#5266
On June 20 2011 23:01 Zorgaz wrote:
My stream isn't working =/.

Been working up till now, and i have great internet speed here at work so it's no that :S


Still not working -.-'
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
June 20 2011 14:05 GMT
#5267
On June 20 2011 23:04 youngminii wrote:
Game 1 Start
Bomber V Moon
Current score: 0-0
Map: Crossfire SE
Bomber at 1 o'clock
Moon at 7 o'clock

Wrong player?
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
June 20 2011 14:05 GMT
#5268
For those who jtv give a black screen here's a proxy that works
http://tunnel.ws/
FinnGamer
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany2426 Posts
June 20 2011 14:05 GMT
#5269
On June 20 2011 23:03 David451 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 22:58 shizna wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:37 shikheh wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:36 shizna wrote:
i didn't want to say anything before, but bomber was hugely disappointing in this tournament.

i didn't see anything special. he's like julyzerg but terran. very aggressive and solid play, but so risky and cocky - cheese/hidden expo etc. consistantly disappointing even from his first group match, definitely not deserving of winning the tournament.


mana and happy could have beaten him in the group stages with a bit of luck.



You have got to be kidding me.

Is that why all the korean players in GSL are so scared of him?

Give me a break.


obviously he's a good player. but his demonstration of skill at dreamhack summer has been lacking.

i can't recall a single series in this tournament that bomber won through simply outclassing his opponent.

look at his first game versus happy on xel'naga caverns. happy's skill was easily on the level of bomber, but unfortunately happy failed to spot the hidden expo which cost him the game (and similar in game2 plus the cheese).

in the final game against MC, he won because MC was trying too hard to get the experimental archon composition right from the start. hence the mass zealots and almost skipping colossus, such a fragile build in PvT because you need sentry to survive but that makes your zealots weak as hell. bomber just went standard and practically won with an a-move.


players like MC, MMA, nestea and MVP look so good. you can tell it's them because of insanely good decision making, control and taking 'unusual' strategies and making them insanely good.

bomber's decision making looks sloppy.


i was expecting a lot more... imo MMA looks a much better player.

Bomber is #1 ELO worldwide - http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/detailed_elo.php?section=sc2-korean&

That's korean ELO. Here's international http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/detailed-elo
"hopefully swing the favor in your advantage." - Day[9]
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
June 20 2011 14:05 GMT
#5270
Just have to refresh people's memories. Moon played like a BOMB in the semi. Goddamn, maybe now he'll start earning some more people's respect which he HEAVILY deserves!

TAKE THIS FINAL MOON~~ FIGHTING
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
bennyaus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1833 Posts
June 20 2011 14:05 GMT
#5271
On June 20 2011 23:03 zerious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 23:03 David451 wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:58 shizna wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:37 shikheh wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:36 shizna wrote:
i didn't want to say anything before, but bomber was hugely disappointing in this tournament.

i didn't see anything special. he's like julyzerg but terran. very aggressive and solid play, but so risky and cocky - cheese/hidden expo etc. consistantly disappointing even from his first group match, definitely not deserving of winning the tournament.


mana and happy could have beaten him in the group stages with a bit of luck.



You have got to be kidding me.

Is that why all the korean players in GSL are so scared of him?

Give me a break.


obviously he's a good player. but his demonstration of skill at dreamhack summer has been lacking.

i can't recall a single series in this tournament that bomber won through simply outclassing his opponent.

look at his first game versus happy on xel'naga caverns. happy's skill was easily on the level of bomber, but unfortunately happy failed to spot the hidden expo which cost him the game (and similar in game2 plus the cheese).

in the final game against MC, he won because MC was trying too hard to get the experimental archon composition right from the start. hence the mass zealots and almost skipping colossus, such a fragile build in PvT because you need sentry to survive but that makes your zealots weak as hell. bomber just went standard and practically won with an a-move.


players like MC, MMA, nestea and MVP look so good. you can tell it's them because of insanely good decision making, control and taking 'unusual' strategies and making them insanely good.

bomber's decision making looks sloppy.


i was expecting a lot more... imo MMA looks a much better player.

Bomber is #1 ELO worldwide - http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/detailed_elo.php?section=sc2-korean&


ELO is not good in SC2, most of his games are from tournaments that most of the top players didn't even compete in


ELO is fine in the Korean scene because they only have tournaments that the top players compete in, it is the foreigner scene where it kind of sucks imo.

Most of this list is top level players... + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=561&part=games&league=standard
I play Random - HuK, DRG + Liquid fan
bo0
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium550 Posts
June 20 2011 14:05 GMT
#5272
STOP SAYING THE STREAM DOESN'T WORK "in europe" YOU DON'T SPEAK FOR EVERYONE

works fine for me
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
June 20 2011 14:05 GMT
#5273
Come on July!
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 14:06:25
June 20 2011 14:05 GMT
#5274
On June 20 2011 23:03 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 23:02 Skyze wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:59 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:57 Daray wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:55 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:44 Xception704 wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:36 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:35 daxile wrote:
so many moon doubters, where are you now ^^?


Here I am, he went for extremely cheesy strategies in all 3 games and Bomber played right into his hands.


Wow are you serious.

1. Bomber goes 2 port banshee all-in first game and gets lucky.
2. Moon beats Bomber in a straight-up macro game in game 2.
3. Bomber plays like shit in game 3 and gets straight up raped by Moon.

1 + 2 + 3 = Moon went for extremely cheesy strategies .......?????

Don't be mad you lost money. Bomber was the cheesy one this series and Moon took advantage. I don't even like Moon (nor do I dislike him) but you're post is so full of shit; it's like you didn't even watch the game.


1. Baneling bust instead of teching to muta which is the correct response to 2 port banshee
2. Baneling bust, which got him a 30 drone lead, that he decided to drag out into a 37 minute game
3. Pure roach against Terran ... Need I say more? Had Bomber not suicided ALL his units into the fog of war + creep he would've won 100%.


My head just exploded. I think you're obligated to come clean this shit up.


None of those games were a solid Zerg style, he just turned out lucky in a Bo3, and if taking into account raw skill Bomber is certainly the better player, he just played really awfully.


its amazing how much brainwash IdrA has people.. wow.. seriously?


Idra? Wait, what?


It's like Godwin's law, IdrA will eventually dominate every debate regardless how it started...
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
Kala23
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany230 Posts
June 20 2011 14:06 GMT
#5275
On June 20 2011 22:55 ChickenLips wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 22:44 Xception704 wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:36 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:35 daxile wrote:
so many moon doubters, where are you now ^^?


Here I am, he went for extremely cheesy strategies in all 3 games and Bomber played right into his hands.


Wow are you serious.

1. Bomber goes 2 port banshee all-in first game and gets lucky.
2. Moon beats Bomber in a straight-up macro game in game 2.
3. Bomber plays like shit in game 3 and gets straight up raped by Moon.

1 + 2 + 3 = Moon went for extremely cheesy strategies .......?????

Don't be mad you lost money. Bomber was the cheesy one this series and Moon took advantage. I don't even like Moon (nor do I dislike him) but you're post is so full of shit; it's like you didn't even watch the game.


1. Baneling bust instead of teching to muta which is the correct response to 2 port banshee
2. Baneling bust, which got him a 30 drone lead, that he decided to drag out into a 37 minute game
3. Pure roach against Terran ... Need I say more? Had Bomber not suicided ALL his units into the fog of war + creep he would've won 100%.


1. According to Who ? Moon's reaction worked well until he underestimated mass banshees.
2. So you aren't allowed to respond to 3 CC Builds with some aggression (while having 3 bases and 40+ drones)
3. Moon responded to what he thought would be blue flame hellions.
Moon then brilliantly intercepted the tank marine force and denied Bomber the time to siege up and inch foward. Even if bomber had been more careful, counter drops in bombers base (4-8 roaches) probably would have won it too
Chibithor
Profile Joined April 2011
Brazil514 Posts
June 20 2011 14:06 GMT
#5276
On June 20 2011 23:05 Meancookie wrote:
STOP SAYING THE STREAM DOESN'T WORK "in europe" YOU DON'T SPEAK FOR EVERYONE

works fine for me

Same here, works no problem.
VAGZ
Profile Joined September 2010
574 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 14:06:19
June 20 2011 14:06 GMT
#5277
Now the stream works for me again. 720p.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 20 2011 14:06 GMT
#5278
On June 20 2011 23:04 youngminii wrote:
Game 1 Start
Bomber V July
Current score: 0-0
Map: Crossfire SE
Bomber at 1 o'clock
July at 7 o'clock

2:30
Bomber with a Maka rax in the middle of the map that an Overlord scouts. July goes Pool first.
lalala
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
June 20 2011 14:06 GMT
#5279
Game is up but you might need to put it on 240p
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2905 Posts
June 20 2011 14:06 GMT
#5280
On June 20 2011 22:59 Juffalo wrote:
I don't usually root for Huk, but I'll make an exception when he's playing for a foreigner win at dreamhack. So Huk fighting !!!!!!!!!

I'm in the same boat as you.
Gogo HuK~
말크 : ^_^~ NeO)GabuAt, vGODieN
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