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Sadly it seems I have to put this up yet again. Any of the following types of posts will be met with immediate bans:

Imbalance whine/Player bashing/Caster bashing/Stream complaining/Off topic arguing.

Stick to the games and enjoy the event and its free services and coverage.
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
June 20 2011 14:03 GMT
#5241
On June 20 2011 23:02 00Visor wrote:
I'm glad that dreamhack prove that koreans are not unbeatable in LAN setting.
It`s still only Huk who managed to beat Koreans (Moon+July) and he avoided MC and Bomber. But it`s possible.


hard work pays off.. nothing to do with being Korean or not, most of the hardest working players seem to be Korean though
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 20 2011 14:03 GMT
#5242
On June 20 2011 23:02 Skyze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 22:59 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:57 Daray wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:55 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:44 Xception704 wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:36 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:35 daxile wrote:
so many moon doubters, where are you now ^^?


Here I am, he went for extremely cheesy strategies in all 3 games and Bomber played right into his hands.


Wow are you serious.

1. Bomber goes 2 port banshee all-in first game and gets lucky.
2. Moon beats Bomber in a straight-up macro game in game 2.
3. Bomber plays like shit in game 3 and gets straight up raped by Moon.

1 + 2 + 3 = Moon went for extremely cheesy strategies .......?????

Don't be mad you lost money. Bomber was the cheesy one this series and Moon took advantage. I don't even like Moon (nor do I dislike him) but you're post is so full of shit; it's like you didn't even watch the game.


1. Baneling bust instead of teching to muta which is the correct response to 2 port banshee
2. Baneling bust, which got him a 30 drone lead, that he decided to drag out into a 37 minute game
3. Pure roach against Terran ... Need I say more? Had Bomber not suicided ALL his units into the fog of war + creep he would've won 100%.


My head just exploded. I think you're obligated to come clean this shit up.


None of those games were a solid Zerg style, he just turned out lucky in a Bo3, and if taking into account raw skill Bomber is certainly the better player, he just played really awfully.


its amazing how much brainwash IdrA has people.. wow.. seriously?


Idra? Wait, what?
I had a good night of sleep.
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
June 20 2011 14:03 GMT
#5243
On June 20 2011 23:03 David451 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 22:58 shizna wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:37 shikheh wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:36 shizna wrote:
i didn't want to say anything before, but bomber was hugely disappointing in this tournament.

i didn't see anything special. he's like julyzerg but terran. very aggressive and solid play, but so risky and cocky - cheese/hidden expo etc. consistantly disappointing even from his first group match, definitely not deserving of winning the tournament.


mana and happy could have beaten him in the group stages with a bit of luck.



You have got to be kidding me.

Is that why all the korean players in GSL are so scared of him?

Give me a break.


obviously he's a good player. but his demonstration of skill at dreamhack summer has been lacking.

i can't recall a single series in this tournament that bomber won through simply outclassing his opponent.

look at his first game versus happy on xel'naga caverns. happy's skill was easily on the level of bomber, but unfortunately happy failed to spot the hidden expo which cost him the game (and similar in game2 plus the cheese).

in the final game against MC, he won because MC was trying too hard to get the experimental archon composition right from the start. hence the mass zealots and almost skipping colossus, such a fragile build in PvT because you need sentry to survive but that makes your zealots weak as hell. bomber just went standard and practically won with an a-move.


players like MC, MMA, nestea and MVP look so good. you can tell it's them because of insanely good decision making, control and taking 'unusual' strategies and making them insanely good.

bomber's decision making looks sloppy.


i was expecting a lot more... imo MMA looks a much better player.

Bomber is #1 ELO worldwide - http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/detailed_elo.php?section=sc2-korean&


ELO is not good in SC2, most of his games are from tournaments that most of the top players didn't even compete in
leungwk01
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1260 Posts
June 20 2011 14:03 GMT
#5244
On June 20 2011 23:03 corpsepose wrote:
havent been following dreamhack much, pleasantly shocked to see huk in the finals... has he dropped a game yet?

yes dropped 1
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
June 20 2011 14:03 GMT
#5245
On June 20 2011 23:03 corpsepose wrote:
havent been following dreamhack much, pleasantly shocked to see huk in the finals... has he dropped a game yet?

Only 1
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
Baituri
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands1501 Posts
June 20 2011 14:04 GMT
#5246
On June 20 2011 23:01 sleepingdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 23:00 Sneakyz wrote:
But Bomber hasn't really impressed at Dreamhack no, that is correct.


Either you haven't watched Bomber vs MC or you...

...hmm..no, not worth the temp ban.

Either you haven't watched the groupstage matches or you...

Mute
Profile Joined August 2010
United States67 Posts
June 20 2011 14:04 GMT
#5247
I can't find this anywhere, who won the tournament? Or, is it not over yet?
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 14:05:40
June 20 2011 14:04 GMT
#5248
Game 1 Start
Bomber V July
Current score: 0-0
Map: Crossfire SE
Bomber at 1 o'clock
July at 7 o'clock
lalala
kalleralle
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden183 Posts
June 20 2011 14:04 GMT
#5249
Okay so when is the next match? The stream has 40k viewers but no game up?
Arccotangent
Profile Joined October 2010
519 Posts
June 20 2011 14:04 GMT
#5250
Just remembered DH was on today, and realized 1) Huk is doing very well (gj) and Moon made it through on his side of the bracket (wtf, didn't expect that at all). Maybe Bomber's TvZ isn't up to par with his other matchups, though it feels unlikely.
"Taste the zombie's drug, now you want more."
ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
June 20 2011 14:04 GMT
#5251
On June 20 2011 23:01 leo23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 22:59 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:57 Daray wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:55 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:44 Xception704 wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:36 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:35 daxile wrote:
so many moon doubters, where are you now ^^?


Here I am, he went for extremely cheesy strategies in all 3 games and Bomber played right into his hands.


Wow are you serious.

1. Bomber goes 2 port banshee all-in first game and gets lucky.
2. Moon beats Bomber in a straight-up macro game in game 2.
3. Bomber plays like shit in game 3 and gets straight up raped by Moon.

1 + 2 + 3 = Moon went for extremely cheesy strategies .......?????

Don't be mad you lost money. Bomber was the cheesy one this series and Moon took advantage. I don't even like Moon (nor do I dislike him) but you're post is so full of shit; it's like you didn't even watch the game.


1. Baneling bust instead of teching to muta which is the correct response to 2 port banshee
2. Baneling bust, which got him a 30 drone lead, that he decided to drag out into a 37 minute game
3. Pure roach against Terran ... Need I say more? Had Bomber not suicided ALL his units into the fog of war + creep he would've won 100%.


My head just exploded. I think you're obligated to come clean this shit up.


None of those games were a solid Zerg style, he just turned out lucky in a Bo3, and if taking into account raw skill Bomber is certainly the better player, he just played really awfully.


It's not worth responding to this guy


But you did! <3

On June 20 2011 23:02 Skyze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 22:59 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:57 Daray wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:55 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:44 Xception704 wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:36 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:35 daxile wrote:
so many moon doubters, where are you now ^^?


Here I am, he went for extremely cheesy strategies in all 3 games and Bomber played right into his hands.


Wow are you serious.

1. Bomber goes 2 port banshee all-in first game and gets lucky.
2. Moon beats Bomber in a straight-up macro game in game 2.
3. Bomber plays like shit in game 3 and gets straight up raped by Moon.

1 + 2 + 3 = Moon went for extremely cheesy strategies .......?????

Don't be mad you lost money. Bomber was the cheesy one this series and Moon took advantage. I don't even like Moon (nor do I dislike him) but you're post is so full of shit; it's like you didn't even watch the game.


1. Baneling bust instead of teching to muta which is the correct response to 2 port banshee
2. Baneling bust, which got him a 30 drone lead, that he decided to drag out into a 37 minute game
3. Pure roach against Terran ... Need I say more? Had Bomber not suicided ALL his units into the fog of war + creep he would've won 100%.


My head just exploded. I think you're obligated to come clean this shit up.


None of those games were a solid Zerg style, he just turned out lucky in a Bo3, and if taking into account raw skill Bomber is certainly the better player, he just played really awfully.


its amazing how much brainwash IdrA has people.. wow.. seriously?



I think IdrA has a really bad mentality. Watch DRG vs sC on Metalopolis to see what I'm talking about!
❤Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ✿
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
June 20 2011 14:04 GMT
#5252
On June 20 2011 23:03 corpsepose wrote:
havent been following dreamhack much, pleasantly shocked to see huk in the finals... has he dropped a game yet?

He lost a game to Bischu.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
LLuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria228 Posts
June 20 2011 14:04 GMT
#5253
On June 20 2011 22:41 svi wrote:
even though moon won he still isn't very good.

even guys as bad inca and rain have made GSL finals. the finals will be terribly bad.


Dreamhack is something really different to GSL.
GSL Preparationtime: ~ 1 week.
Dreamhack Preparationtime: ~1 Hour
Tripping off the beat kinda, dripping off the meatgrinder
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6313 Posts
June 20 2011 14:04 GMT
#5254
On June 20 2011 23:01 Zorgaz wrote:
My stream isn't working =/.

Been working up till now, and i have great internet speed here at work so it's no that :S


yeah, seriously justin.tv has had problems with EU for ages now...
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
June 20 2011 14:04 GMT
#5255
On June 20 2011 23:01 leo23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 22:59 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:57 Daray wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:55 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:44 Xception704 wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:36 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:35 daxile wrote:
so many moon doubters, where are you now ^^?


Here I am, he went for extremely cheesy strategies in all 3 games and Bomber played right into his hands.


Wow are you serious.

1. Bomber goes 2 port banshee all-in first game and gets lucky.
2. Moon beats Bomber in a straight-up macro game in game 2.
3. Bomber plays like shit in game 3 and gets straight up raped by Moon.

1 + 2 + 3 = Moon went for extremely cheesy strategies .......?????

Don't be mad you lost money. Bomber was the cheesy one this series and Moon took advantage. I don't even like Moon (nor do I dislike him) but you're post is so full of shit; it's like you didn't even watch the game.


1. Baneling bust instead of teching to muta which is the correct response to 2 port banshee
2. Baneling bust, which got him a 30 drone lead, that he decided to drag out into a 37 minute game
3. Pure roach against Terran ... Need I say more? Had Bomber not suicided ALL his units into the fog of war + creep he would've won 100%.


My head just exploded. I think you're obligated to come clean this shit up.


None of those games were a solid Zerg style, he just turned out lucky in a Bo3, and if taking into account raw skill Bomber is certainly the better player, he just played really awfully.


It's not worth responding to this guy

ChickenLips has his own, very vocal, opinion, and it´s hard to convince him otherwise.
I do like to read it though, although responding to it usually isn´t the best idea, and I've stopped doing that, but hey, different people = different point of views. That's just the way it is .
It appears I have been chosen.
DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
June 20 2011 14:04 GMT
#5256
Stream works for me now,, 720p
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
June 20 2011 14:05 GMT
#5257
On June 20 2011 23:02 Sneakyz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 23:01 sleepingdog wrote:
On June 20 2011 23:00 Sneakyz wrote:
But Bomber hasn't really impressed at Dreamhack no, that is correct.


Either you haven't watched Bomber vs MC or you...

...hmm..no, not worth the temp ban.

One match doesn't really make a difference

Bomber is rather inconsistent. When he's good he's amazing (Code A run). But he's prone to losing in matches he shouldn't or just being extremely unimpressive often. (a lot of GSTL games)
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
June 20 2011 14:05 GMT
#5258
On June 20 2011 23:04 youngminii wrote:
Game 1 Start
Bomber V Moon
Current score: 0-0
Map: Crossfire SE
Bomber at 1 o'clock
Moon at 7 o'clock

You are either late or wrong.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
June 20 2011 14:05 GMT
#5259
Damn, only 240p works for me.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
brentsen
Profile Joined November 2010
1252 Posts
June 20 2011 14:05 GMT
#5260
On June 20 2011 23:04 kalleralle wrote:
Okay so when is the next match? The stream has 40k viewers but no game up?

Next match is supposed to be now.
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