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Sadly it seems I have to put this up yet again. Any of the following types of posts will be met with immediate bans:

Imbalance whine/Player bashing/Caster bashing/Stream complaining/Off topic arguing.

Stick to the games and enjoy the event and its free services and coverage.
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
June 20 2011 14:01 GMT
#5221
On June 20 2011 22:59 ChickenLips wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 22:57 Daray wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:55 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:44 Xception704 wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:36 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:35 daxile wrote:
so many moon doubters, where are you now ^^?


Here I am, he went for extremely cheesy strategies in all 3 games and Bomber played right into his hands.


Wow are you serious.

1. Bomber goes 2 port banshee all-in first game and gets lucky.
2. Moon beats Bomber in a straight-up macro game in game 2.
3. Bomber plays like shit in game 3 and gets straight up raped by Moon.

1 + 2 + 3 = Moon went for extremely cheesy strategies .......?????

Don't be mad you lost money. Bomber was the cheesy one this series and Moon took advantage. I don't even like Moon (nor do I dislike him) but you're post is so full of shit; it's like you didn't even watch the game.


1. Baneling bust instead of teching to muta which is the correct response to 2 port banshee
2. Baneling bust, which got him a 30 drone lead, that he decided to drag out into a 37 minute game
3. Pure roach against Terran ... Need I say more? Had Bomber not suicided ALL his units into the fog of war + creep he would've won 100%.


My head just exploded. I think you're obligated to come clean this shit up.


None of those games were a solid Zerg style, he just turned out lucky in a Bo3, and if taking into account raw skill Bomber is certainly the better player, he just played really awfully.


It's not worth responding to this guy
banelings
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
June 20 2011 14:01 GMT
#5222
On June 20 2011 23:00 Sneakyz wrote:
But Bomber hasn't really impressed at Dreamhack no, that is correct.


Either you haven't watched Bomber vs MC or you...

...hmm..no, not worth the temp ban.
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2012 Posts
June 20 2011 14:01 GMT
#5223
Its live
What do humans know of our pain? We have sung songs of lament since before your ancestors crawled on their bellies from the sea.
Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
June 20 2011 14:01 GMT
#5224
My stream isn't working =/.

Been working up till now, and i have great internet speed here at work so it's no that :S
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
June 20 2011 14:01 GMT
#5225
Justin TV blows chunks in Europe, i dunno why but the always seem to have problems , stream is still done again
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
June 20 2011 14:02 GMT
#5226
On June 20 2011 23:00 Jyvblamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 22:58 hifriend wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:55 Baituri wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:53 hifriend wrote:
bronze finals = the real final

Why? HuK and Moon clearly deserve to be in the Finals, because they were the better players today..

yeah huk is like the best player in the world now that he beat predy, socke, fury, lalush etc

Too bad tournaments can't be round robins with Best of Infinity matches.

they cannot, but that doesn't mean we have to draw silly conclusions every time player X beats player Y in a boZ
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
June 20 2011 14:02 GMT
#5227
On June 20 2011 22:52 SkullZ9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 22:50 s4life wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:48 SkullZ9 wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:46 TheHova wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:45 Sneakyz wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:44 tdt wrote:
Moon destroyed Nani...how do you guys think Huk is auto win?

Maybe because Huk beat him 2-0 in pool-play


IdrA beat MC 2-0 in pool-play. How did that one go ?


Try to use your brain. You generalize a situation based upon a match (which was a very weird match cause of IdrA strange personnality). When you 2-0 a guy, you are the favorite if the game is one day after the 2-0 in general, so don't be silly (and I don't say it's an easy win for Huk)


Nah, MC was jetlagged the first day -- and it was the first game of the tournament --. MC would probably lose to Idra at most a game or two out of 10 in normal circumstances.


What you said is completely irrelevant, we aren't talking about this match in particular, read the quotes before posting ...


Uh? I am implying there were different circumstances for both series so they are not comparable... how the fuck is that not relevant to a comment like this: 'look what happened to Idra vs MC in MGL"
Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
June 20 2011 14:02 GMT
#5228
On June 20 2011 22:59 ChickenLips wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 22:57 Daray wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:55 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:44 Xception704 wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:36 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:35 daxile wrote:
so many moon doubters, where are you now ^^?


Here I am, he went for extremely cheesy strategies in all 3 games and Bomber played right into his hands.


Wow are you serious.

1. Bomber goes 2 port banshee all-in first game and gets lucky.
2. Moon beats Bomber in a straight-up macro game in game 2.
3. Bomber plays like shit in game 3 and gets straight up raped by Moon.

1 + 2 + 3 = Moon went for extremely cheesy strategies .......?????

Don't be mad you lost money. Bomber was the cheesy one this series and Moon took advantage. I don't even like Moon (nor do I dislike him) but you're post is so full of shit; it's like you didn't even watch the game.


1. Baneling bust instead of teching to muta which is the correct response to 2 port banshee
2. Baneling bust, which got him a 30 drone lead, that he decided to drag out into a 37 minute game
3. Pure roach against Terran ... Need I say more? Had Bomber not suicided ALL his units into the fog of war + creep he would've won 100%.


My head just exploded. I think you're obligated to come clean this shit up.


None of those games were a solid Zerg style, he just turned out lucky in a Bo3, and if taking into account raw skill Bomber is certainly the better player, he just played really awfully.


its amazing how much brainwash IdrA has people.. wow.. seriously?

Canada Gaming ~~ The-Feared
VAGZ
Profile Joined September 2010
574 Posts
June 20 2011 14:02 GMT
#5229
Fucking justin.tv, can't even watch a tournament hosted in my own country without problems. None of the quality options works for me atm...
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
June 20 2011 14:02 GMT
#5230
Stream isn't working for me either.
Nocteo
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium799 Posts
June 20 2011 14:02 GMT
#5231
Yea stream seems to be down for me aswell.
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
June 20 2011 14:02 GMT
#5232
HUKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!! LET'S GO. I JUST WOKE UP. I'M FUCKING HYPED, YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
darkness overpowering
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
June 20 2011 14:02 GMT
#5233
I'm glad that dreamhack prove that koreans are not unbeatable in LAN setting.
It`s still only Huk who managed to beat Koreans (Moon+July) and he avoided MC and Bomber. But it`s possible.
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
June 20 2011 14:02 GMT
#5234
On June 20 2011 23:01 sleepingdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 23:00 Sneakyz wrote:
But Bomber hasn't really impressed at Dreamhack no, that is correct.


Either you haven't watched Bomber vs MC or you...

...hmm..no, not worth the temp ban.

One match doesn't really make a difference
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
David451
Profile Joined October 2010
United States491 Posts
June 20 2011 14:03 GMT
#5235
On June 20 2011 22:58 shizna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 22:37 shikheh wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:36 shizna wrote:
i didn't want to say anything before, but bomber was hugely disappointing in this tournament.

i didn't see anything special. he's like julyzerg but terran. very aggressive and solid play, but so risky and cocky - cheese/hidden expo etc. consistantly disappointing even from his first group match, definitely not deserving of winning the tournament.


mana and happy could have beaten him in the group stages with a bit of luck.



You have got to be kidding me.

Is that why all the korean players in GSL are so scared of him?

Give me a break.


obviously he's a good player. but his demonstration of skill at dreamhack summer has been lacking.

i can't recall a single series in this tournament that bomber won through simply outclassing his opponent.

look at his first game versus happy on xel'naga caverns. happy's skill was easily on the level of bomber, but unfortunately happy failed to spot the hidden expo which cost him the game (and similar in game2 plus the cheese).

in the final game against MC, he won because MC was trying too hard to get the experimental archon composition right from the start. hence the mass zealots and almost skipping colossus, such a fragile build in PvT because you need sentry to survive but that makes your zealots weak as hell. bomber just went standard and practically won with an a-move.


players like MC, MMA, nestea and MVP look so good. you can tell it's them because of insanely good decision making, control and taking 'unusual' strategies and making them insanely good.

bomber's decision making looks sloppy.


i was expecting a lot more... imo MMA looks a much better player.

Bomber is #1 ELO worldwide - http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/detailed_elo.php?section=sc2-korean&
Shae: I don't want to play. Tyrion: It's fun! Look at the fun we're having!
ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 14:08:49
June 20 2011 14:03 GMT
#5236
On June 20 2011 22:58 shizna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 22:37 shikheh wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:36 shizna wrote:
i didn't want to say anything before, but bomber was hugely disappointing in this tournament.

i didn't see anything special. he's like julyzerg but terran. very aggressive and solid play, but so risky and cocky - cheese/hidden expo etc. consistantly disappointing even from his first group match, definitely not deserving of winning the tournament.


mana and happy could have beaten him in the group stages with a bit of luck.



You have got to be kidding me.

Is that why all the korean players in GSL are so scared of him?

Give me a break.


obviously he's a good player. but his demonstration of skill at dreamhack summer has been lacking.

i can't recall a single series in this tournament that bomber won through simply outclassing his opponent.

look at his first game versus happy on xel'naga caverns. happy's skill was easily on the level of bomber, but unfortunately happy failed to spot the hidden expo which cost him the game (and similar in game2 plus the cheese).

in the final game against MC, he won because MC was trying too hard to get the experimental archon composition right from the start. hence the mass zealots and almost skipping colossus, such a fragile build in PvT because you need sentry to survive but that makes your zealots weak as hell. bomber just went standard and practically won with an a-move.


players like MC, MMA, nestea and MVP look so good. you can tell it's them because of insanely good decision making, control and taking 'unusual' strategies and making them insanely good.

bomber's decision making looks sloppy.


oh man, your own bias is clouding your judgment.

Happy didn't lose because he didn't scout the hidden expo LMAO

there's no such thing as a hidden expo in a 30 minute TvT on xel, Bomber just had better positioning, decision-making and macro. If anything Happy played that sloppily.

g3 he didn't win because MC was trying to get some fragile build going, it was because of the mindgames. MC knows Bomber loves to get an insane viking count up, so he made 2-3 colossi and instantly went into Templar. This stuff is costly on gas, and what else is he gonna make to fend off a push while barely having the composition he needs. Zealots and morph Templar into Archons of course.

He didn't play up to his potential, but don't pull out flat-wrong examples to justify your argument.
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agile_legs
Profile Joined January 2011
Philippines348 Posts
June 20 2011 14:03 GMT
#5237
july vs bomber game about to start...
Winter is Coming
corpsepose
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1678 Posts
June 20 2011 14:03 GMT
#5238
havent been following dreamhack much, pleasantly shocked to see huk in the finals... has he dropped a game yet?
http://www.twitch.tv/corpsep0se
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3006 Posts
June 20 2011 14:03 GMT
#5239
On June 20 2011 23:02 00Visor wrote:
I'm glad that dreamhack prove that koreans are not unbeatable in LAN setting.
It`s still only Huk who managed to beat Koreans (Moon+July) and he avoided MC and Bomber. But it`s possible.

Only if you TRAIN like Koreans.
Huk didn't beat July and Moon practicing 3 hours a day.
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
shizna
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom803 Posts
June 20 2011 14:03 GMT
#5240
lol at the 'muta is correct response to banshee'.

why? because most people seem to go mutalisk so it must be the correct response?


play as terran, open banshee, then see how easily you can stop a baneling bust.
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