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Sadly it seems I have to put this up yet again. Any of the following types of posts will be met with immediate bans:

Imbalance whine/Player bashing/Caster bashing/Stream complaining/Off topic arguing.

Stick to the games and enjoy the event and its free services and coverage.
jhrjbhzcgf
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany72 Posts
June 20 2011 13:57 GMT
#5181
On June 20 2011 22:55 Telcontar wrote:
Is the stream blanking out for anyone else?


Never watched justin.tv before? They are too retarded to get the stream to work properly for europeans! Nearly half of the weekend we could only watch it with us-proxies.
Zinnwaldite
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1567 Posts
June 20 2011 13:58 GMT
#5182
One could say both Huk and Moon has a chance to shut the haters up, but in my opinion they already have. No matter who wins the finals they've both proven that the hate they get makes little to no sense.

Grats to both of them.. However,, haters will never shut up,,, better to ignore them.
We promise with a view to hope, but the reason to "accomplish" what we promised would be fear.
shizna
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom803 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 14:00:42
June 20 2011 13:58 GMT
#5183
On June 20 2011 22:37 shikheh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 22:36 shizna wrote:
i didn't want to say anything before, but bomber was hugely disappointing in this tournament.

i didn't see anything special. he's like julyzerg but terran. very aggressive and solid play, but so risky and cocky - cheese/hidden expo etc. consistantly disappointing even from his first group match, definitely not deserving of winning the tournament.


mana and happy could have beaten him in the group stages with a bit of luck.



You have got to be kidding me.

Is that why all the korean players in GSL are so scared of him?

Give me a break.


obviously he's a good player. but his demonstration of skill at dreamhack summer has been lacking.

i can't recall a single series in this tournament that bomber won through simply outclassing his opponent.

look at his first game versus happy on xel'naga caverns. happy's skill was easily on the level of bomber, but unfortunately happy failed to spot the hidden expo which cost him the game (and similar in game2 plus the cheese).

in the final game against MC, he won because MC was trying too hard to get the experimental archon composition right from the start. hence the mass zealots and almost skipping colossus, such a fragile build in PvT because you need sentry to survive but that makes your zealots weak as hell. bomber just went standard and practically won with an a-move.


players like MC, MMA, nestea and MVP look so good. you can tell it's them because of insanely good decision making, control and taking 'unusual' strategies and making them insanely good.

bomber's decision making looks sloppy.


i was expecting a lot more... imo MMA looks a much better player.
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
June 20 2011 13:58 GMT
#5184
MOON!!!!!! My fav I am so happy :D
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
June 20 2011 13:58 GMT
#5185
On June 20 2011 22:55 Baituri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 22:53 hifriend wrote:
bronze finals = the real final

Why? HuK and Moon clearly deserve to be in the Finals, because they were the better players today..

yeah huk is like the best player in the world now that he beat predy, socke, fury, lalush etc
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
June 20 2011 13:58 GMT
#5186
Jesus christ, stop hating on the players. Boohoo you didn't get your dream match up or your favorite player won. Be happy for the players that have won and respect the paths they have taken to get here.
Moon a code B Korean with an arguably very tough bracket to these finals where people were even doubting he would make it out of groups.
And Huk who has an unbelievable amount of haters because of his "poor performance" in Code S even though he is still in it which many players fail to do and you don't flame them. Also it doesn't help that Idra spouts his mouth at every chance he gets at Huk and people take his word like its law for some reason....

No one saw these finals coming and for that reason I'm very excited and am looking forward to an amazing finals, will a Code B Korean win? or Huk the Foreigner with "Korean training."
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
svi
Profile Joined October 2010
405 Posts
June 20 2011 13:58 GMT
#5187
stop overrating moon.

seriously rain has made GSL finals and we all know how bad he is.

moon is getting crushed in the finals and i'll be there to say i told you so.
Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
June 20 2011 13:58 GMT
#5188
On June 20 2011 22:57 LoCaD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 22:56 Bashion wrote:
OMG

plz, someone tell me how was the third game of Bomber vs Moon?

I know Moon won, but how did it go?

My internet went off during half of the second game


that wasnt your internet it wenn off for everyone and still is for me.


Nah, it really went off, i couldnt access any website or do anything online.
I've got moves like Jagger
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
June 20 2011 13:58 GMT
#5189
On June 20 2011 22:55 ChickenLips wrote:
3. Pure roach against Terran ... Need I say more? Had Bomber not suicided ALL his units into the fog of war + creep he would've won 100%.

How is opting for a dropbased style bad on that positions or cheese? Only because it's not what Idra would do?

It's very strong against the usual Tank/Marine-based turtlestyle if unscouted, and I'm actually quite sure that Moon would've won the game anyway with that because Bomber wasn't prepared.

Pure Roach is the best choice if you want to drop.
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
June 20 2011 13:58 GMT
#5190
It's time for my hero from the last 6 years...Fantasista, Andro-jang, The Fifth Race, Spirit_Moon to finally shine bright and take it all !!! MOON FIGHTING!
Envy fan since NTH.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 20 2011 13:58 GMT
#5191
On June 20 2011 22:57 LoCaD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 22:56 Bashion wrote:
OMG

plz, someone tell me how was the third game of Bomber vs Moon?

I know Moon won, but how did it go?

My internet went off during half of the second game


that wasnt your internet it wenn off for everyone and still is for me.

not true it was working on 720p (apparently) which i was always on

basically moon started amassing roaches while getting overlord drop and roach speed at the same time, then he moved out just as bomber was making a huge timing attack with tanks and marines

moon caught all of them off guard and unsieged, killed them all
then instead of just running in moon picked up all his roaches and sent them straight into the main

nothing bomber could do
lalala
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
June 20 2011 13:58 GMT
#5192
On June 20 2011 22:56 Fyzar wrote:
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On June 20 2011 22:53 pAzand wrote:
Well I wouldn't say a 70% winrate in TvZ is bad including a 3-0 record against Losira, what's up with people always bashing on the players losing games? Every player will lose games in Sc2, that's how it is and always will be...

Well done by Moon, gl in the finals, but... HUK FIGHTING!

Well, not hating on Bomber's record here, I think he's amazing, but don't count Losira's ZvT in this discussion haha His ZvT is really lackluster.

That and his TvP and TvT record are much better (look at his TvT opponents). There is no doubt Bomber's TvZ is his weakest matchup.
Juffalo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States155 Posts
June 20 2011 13:59 GMT
#5193
I don't usually root for Huk, but I'll make an exception when he's playing for a foreigner win at dreamhack. So Huk fighting !!!!!!!!!
ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
June 20 2011 13:59 GMT
#5194
On June 20 2011 22:57 Daray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 22:55 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:44 Xception704 wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:36 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:35 daxile wrote:
so many moon doubters, where are you now ^^?


Here I am, he went for extremely cheesy strategies in all 3 games and Bomber played right into his hands.


Wow are you serious.

1. Bomber goes 2 port banshee all-in first game and gets lucky.
2. Moon beats Bomber in a straight-up macro game in game 2.
3. Bomber plays like shit in game 3 and gets straight up raped by Moon.

1 + 2 + 3 = Moon went for extremely cheesy strategies .......?????

Don't be mad you lost money. Bomber was the cheesy one this series and Moon took advantage. I don't even like Moon (nor do I dislike him) but you're post is so full of shit; it's like you didn't even watch the game.


1. Baneling bust instead of teching to muta which is the correct response to 2 port banshee
2. Baneling bust, which got him a 30 drone lead, that he decided to drag out into a 37 minute game
3. Pure roach against Terran ... Need I say more? Had Bomber not suicided ALL his units into the fog of war + creep he would've won 100%.


My head just exploded. I think you're obligated to come clean this shit up.


None of those games were a solid Zerg style, he just turned out lucky in a Bo3, and if taking into account raw skill Bomber is certainly the better player, he just played really awfully.
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aphexx
Profile Joined January 2011
11 Posts
June 20 2011 13:59 GMT
#5195
it doesnnnnnt woooooork you trafficthiefs
Nevarix
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden294 Posts
June 20 2011 13:59 GMT
#5196
On June 20 2011 22:57 jhrjbhzcgf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 22:55 Telcontar wrote:
Is the stream blanking out for anyone else?


Never watched justin.tv before? They are too retarded to get the stream to work properly for europeans! Nearly half of the weekend we could only watch it with us-proxies.


Who's we?

I know me and all my swedish friends were able to watch in without any problem whatsoever.
Bobble
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1493 Posts
June 20 2011 13:59 GMT
#5197
On June 20 2011 22:57 figq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 22:34 n00b3rt wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:33 RubiksCube wrote:
On June 20 2011 21:31 RubiksCube wrote:
My call is Moon winning 2-1, plus I predict a huge baneling bomb/trap/play


TOLD YOU!

What gender will my first child be? Please, tell me ;D
No idea about your 1st child, but after what happened today, Bomber's first child may turn out to be from The Fifth Race.


very witty my good sir. exceedingly droll.
frucisky
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2170 Posts
June 20 2011 13:59 GMT
#5198
On June 20 2011 22:58 shizna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 22:37 shikheh wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:36 shizna wrote:
i didn't want to say anything before, but bomber was hugely disappointing in this tournament.

i didn't see anything special. he's like julyzerg but terran. very aggressive and solid play, but so risky and cocky - cheese/hidden expo etc. consistantly disappointing even from his first group match, definitely not deserving of winning the tournament.


mana and happy could have beaten him in the group stages with a bit of luck.



You have got to be kidding me.

Is that why all the korean players in GSL are so scared of him?

Give me a break.


obviously he's a good player. but his demonstration of skill at dreamhack summer has been lacking.

i can't recall a single series in this tournament that bomber won through simply outclassing his opponent.

look at his first game versus happy on xel'naga caverns. happy's skill was easily on the level of bomber, but unfortunately happy failed to spot the hidden expo which cost him the game (and similar in game2 plus the cheese).

in the final game against MC, he won because MC was trying too hard to get the experimental archon composition right from the start. hence the mass zealots and almost skipping colossus, such a fragile build in PvT because you need sentry to survive but that makes your zealots weak as hell. bomber just went standard and practically won with an a-move.


players like MC, MMA, nestea and MVP look so good. you can tell it's them because of insanely good decision making, control and taking 'unusual' strategies and making them insanely good.

bomber's decision making looks sloppy.


In Bomber v MC, I think MC stayed off colossus cuz in all of Bomber's TvP he had perfect viking timings such that colossus tech was countered even before it was established. I though MC was trying to change it up to throw Bomber off.
<3 DongRaeGu <3
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
June 20 2011 13:59 GMT
#5199
On June 20 2011 22:57 Daray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 22:55 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:44 Xception704 wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:36 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:35 daxile wrote:
so many moon doubters, where are you now ^^?


Here I am, he went for extremely cheesy strategies in all 3 games and Bomber played right into his hands.


Wow are you serious.

1. Bomber goes 2 port banshee all-in first game and gets lucky.
2. Moon beats Bomber in a straight-up macro game in game 2.
3. Bomber plays like shit in game 3 and gets straight up raped by Moon.

1 + 2 + 3 = Moon went for extremely cheesy strategies .......?????

Don't be mad you lost money. Bomber was the cheesy one this series and Moon took advantage. I don't even like Moon (nor do I dislike him) but you're post is so full of shit; it's like you didn't even watch the game.


1. Baneling bust instead of teching to muta which is the correct response to 2 port banshee
2. Baneling bust, which got him a 30 drone lead, that he decided to drag out into a 37 minute game
3. Pure roach against Terran ... Need I say more? Had Bomber not suicided ALL his units into the fog of war + creep he would've won 100%.


My head just exploded. I think you're obligated to come clean this shit up.


I think it just proves this game isn't "solved" yet and many different approaches can solve the same problem. If this was A kills B so build C then I doubt we'd be obsessively discussing/playing and watching it.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
bo0
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium550 Posts
June 20 2011 13:59 GMT
#5200
Just so that people know: there's nothing wrong with the stream nessecarily, I'm watching it fine without any lag

maybe it's only on certain sites?
maybe certain qualities?
maybe certain countries?
Idk
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