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Sadly it seems I have to put this up yet again. Any of the following types of posts will be met with immediate bans:

Imbalance whine/Player bashing/Caster bashing/Stream complaining/Off topic arguing.

Stick to the games and enjoy the event and its free services and coverage.
Piii
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany3 Posts
June 20 2011 14:06 GMT
#5281
http://flapa05.tk/browse.php/e53f392986a1cf95086Oi8vd3d3LnRlYW1saXF1aWQubmV0L3ZpZGVvL3N0cmVhbXMvRGF5JTVCOSU1RA_3D_3D/b0/fnorefer/

watch via proxy
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
June 20 2011 14:06 GMT
#5282
got it working on 360p
Xception704
Profile Joined May 2008
United States161 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 14:07:57
June 20 2011 14:06 GMT
#5283
On June 20 2011 23:05 TheBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 23:04 youngminii wrote:
Game 1 Start
Bomber V Moon
Current score: 0-0
Map: Crossfire SE
Bomber at 1 o'clock
Moon at 7 o'clock

You are either late or wrong.


OOPS nvm.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 20 2011 14:06 GMT
#5284
Stream is working fine for me

Ill be back in around 10 mins and ill start live reporting again then
Sqalevon
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands523 Posts
June 20 2011 14:06 GMT
#5285
Sweet, stream is working at 240p, better then nothing ^^
Go July!
CEPEHDREI
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1521 Posts
June 20 2011 14:06 GMT
#5286
bomber just showed us why it took him so long to get an code A spot. sometimes hes playing dumb random stuff. the 2 port banshee thingy is way too random and risky. And then this blind timingpush at meta.

Bomber is good enough 2 rely on his mechanics and his skills but today he just tried it in the second game where he got too far behind after moons banelings bust.

but yeah good for Moon.
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 14:09:04
June 20 2011 14:07 GMT
#5287
edit: nvm 480 works
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Alohacoconut78
Profile Joined May 2011
31 Posts
June 20 2011 14:07 GMT
#5288
I'm pretty amazed that streamers still pick Justin for a global audience, even though it's been proven time and time again that it just isn't reliable enough.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
June 20 2011 14:07 GMT
#5289
On June 20 2011 23:05 MrCon wrote:
For those who jtv give a black screen here's a proxy that works
http://tunnel.ws/

And now it works again
Baituri
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands1501 Posts
June 20 2011 14:07 GMT
#5290
Stream works again for me! Hopefully it does fro the others.
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
June 20 2011 14:07 GMT
#5291
On June 20 2011 23:03 zerious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 23:03 David451 wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:58 shizna wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:37 shikheh wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:36 shizna wrote:
i didn't want to say anything before, but bomber was hugely disappointing in this tournament.

i didn't see anything special. he's like julyzerg but terran. very aggressive and solid play, but so risky and cocky - cheese/hidden expo etc. consistantly disappointing even from his first group match, definitely not deserving of winning the tournament.


mana and happy could have beaten him in the group stages with a bit of luck.



You have got to be kidding me.

Is that why all the korean players in GSL are so scared of him?

Give me a break.


obviously he's a good player. but his demonstration of skill at dreamhack summer has been lacking.

i can't recall a single series in this tournament that bomber won through simply outclassing his opponent.

look at his first game versus happy on xel'naga caverns. happy's skill was easily on the level of bomber, but unfortunately happy failed to spot the hidden expo which cost him the game (and similar in game2 plus the cheese).

in the final game against MC, he won because MC was trying too hard to get the experimental archon composition right from the start. hence the mass zealots and almost skipping colossus, such a fragile build in PvT because you need sentry to survive but that makes your zealots weak as hell. bomber just went standard and practically won with an a-move.


players like MC, MMA, nestea and MVP look so good. you can tell it's them because of insanely good decision making, control and taking 'unusual' strategies and making them insanely good.

bomber's decision making looks sloppy.


i was expecting a lot more... imo MMA looks a much better player.

Bomber is #1 ELO worldwide - http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/detailed_elo.php?section=sc2-korean&


ELO is not good in SC2, most of his games are from tournaments that most of the top players didn't even compete in


Do you know how ELO works? You don't get much points winning against bad players.
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
June 20 2011 14:07 GMT
#5292
can finally watch it again (on best resolution)
InvalidID
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1050 Posts
June 20 2011 14:07 GMT
#5293
On June 20 2011 23:03 zerious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 23:03 David451 wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:58 shizna wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:37 shikheh wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:36 shizna wrote:
i didn't want to say anything before, but bomber was hugely disappointing in this tournament.

i didn't see anything special. he's like julyzerg but terran. very aggressive and solid play, but so risky and cocky - cheese/hidden expo etc. consistantly disappointing even from his first group match, definitely not deserving of winning the tournament.


mana and happy could have beaten him in the group stages with a bit of luck.



You have got to be kidding me.

Is that why all the korean players in GSL are so scared of him?

Give me a break.


obviously he's a good player. but his demonstration of skill at dreamhack summer has been lacking.

i can't recall a single series in this tournament that bomber won through simply outclassing his opponent.

look at his first game versus happy on xel'naga caverns. happy's skill was easily on the level of bomber, but unfortunately happy failed to spot the hidden expo which cost him the game (and similar in game2 plus the cheese).

in the final game against MC, he won because MC was trying too hard to get the experimental archon composition right from the start. hence the mass zealots and almost skipping colossus, such a fragile build in PvT because you need sentry to survive but that makes your zealots weak as hell. bomber just went standard and practically won with an a-move.


players like MC, MMA, nestea and MVP look so good. you can tell it's them because of insanely good decision making, control and taking 'unusual' strategies and making them insanely good.

bomber's decision making looks sloppy.


i was expecting a lot more... imo MMA looks a much better player.

Bomber is #1 ELO worldwide - http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/detailed_elo.php?section=sc2-korean&


ELO is not good in SC2, most of his games are from tournaments that most of the top players didn't even compete in


What?? Most of the games appear to be from the GSL or from the Asia Champions Trophy that appeared to have a pretty solid pool.
cordlc
Profile Joined November 2010
United States360 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 14:09:03
June 20 2011 14:07 GMT
#5294
On June 20 2011 23:02 00Visor wrote:
I'm glad that dreamhack prove that koreans are not unbeatable in LAN setting.
It`s still only Huk who managed to beat Koreans (Moon+July) and he avoided MC and Bomber. But it`s possible.

We already knew the Koreans weren't unbeatable (they've dropped plenty of games), the problem is how big the skill gap is between them.

Worse, HuK being the only one breaking the top 3 Korean streak doesn't do anything for most foreigners, because he only got where he is due to staying in Korea for months. How many other foreigners are willing to do that?

It's still clear that the foreign scene is way behind, and something needs to be done if they don't want to be run over by Koreans in every major tournament.
brentsen
Profile Joined November 2010
1252 Posts
June 20 2011 14:07 GMT
#5295
On June 20 2011 23:06 Sneakyz wrote:
Game is up but you might need to put it on 240p

Thanks, it works, at least i have sound, video looks like fog of war though. ^^
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 20 2011 14:07 GMT
#5296
On June 20 2011 23:06 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 23:04 youngminii wrote:
Game 1 Start
Bomber V July
Current score: 0-0
Map: Crossfire SE
Bomber at 1 o'clock
July at 7 o'clock

2:30
Bomber with a Maka rax in the middle of the map that an Overlord scouts. July goes Pool first.

4:30
Bomber sends his proxy Rax back into his ramp and then takes both his gas before starting a CC. July taking his own Hatch.
lalala
Shalaiyn
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2735 Posts
June 20 2011 14:07 GMT
#5297
Audio problems :/
Haydin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1481 Posts
June 20 2011 14:07 GMT
#5298
On June 20 2011 22:55 ChickenLips wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 22:44 Xception704 wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:36 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:35 daxile wrote:
so many moon doubters, where are you now ^^?


Here I am, he went for extremely cheesy strategies in all 3 games and Bomber played right into his hands.


Wow are you serious.

1. Bomber goes 2 port banshee all-in first game and gets lucky.
2. Moon beats Bomber in a straight-up macro game in game 2.
3. Bomber plays like shit in game 3 and gets straight up raped by Moon.

1 + 2 + 3 = Moon went for extremely cheesy strategies .......?????

Don't be mad you lost money. Bomber was the cheesy one this series and Moon took advantage. I don't even like Moon (nor do I dislike him) but you're post is so full of shit; it's like you didn't even watch the game.


1. Baneling bust instead of teching to muta which is the correct response to 2 port banshee
2. Baneling bust, which got him a 30 drone lead, that he decided to drag out into a 37 minute game
3. Pure roach against Terran ... Need I say more? Had Bomber not suicided ALL his units into the fog of war + creep he would've won 100%.


Game 1, moon lost due to not reacting properly to a cheese, I agree.
Game 2, Moon had THREE bases when he attacked. Three. Moon played aggressively while still not neglecting his economy. He continued to apply constant pressure vs a terran player with a low base count, something that can be quite difficult against a player as good as bomber.
Game 3, moon punished bomber for a mistake (well several, including the unupgraded marines and showing his CC) and won, similar to game 1. Except Moon was not doing a cheese. In addition, he showed off a pretty interesting 2-base drop build to take advantage of close air spawns.

Players improve. Stop being a fanboy and enjoy some great SC2 games.
aka ilovesharkpeople
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 20 2011 14:07 GMT
#5299
On June 20 2011 23:06 Drazerk wrote:
Stream is working fine for me

Ill be back in around 10 mins and ill start live reporting again then

i'll take it until you're back
lalala
David451
Profile Joined October 2010
United States491 Posts
June 20 2011 14:07 GMT
#5300
Idle mule? Where is my Bomber and what have you done with him Dreamhack?
Shae: I don't want to play. Tyrion: It's fun! Look at the fun we're having!
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