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Sadly after all this time with so many tournament threads it still is not clear to many users on this site. There are several types of posts that are not acceptable in tournament threads. Any form of:

Imbalance whine/Player bashing/Caster bashing/Stream complaining

Will result in two day to a week long bans even for first offenses. Please stick to the games at hand and enjoy yourselves with a beautiful event such as this and the free service that comes with it.
dubRa
Profile Joined December 2008
2165 Posts
June 19 2011 17:52 GMT
#8401
On June 20 2011 02:50 Legace wrote:
I swear the drawing was rigged, MC vs. IdrA and no mirrors with that many protoss, ya right.

Looked wierd when Apollo helt the third to last paper under the table.


There always have to be at least one guy who calls rigged. Even if it happens in front of his eyes.
Titorelli
Profile Joined March 2011
2492 Posts
June 19 2011 17:52 GMT
#8402
On June 20 2011 02:51 Chrill wrote:
Maybe I'm biased for being Swede but it sounds crazy to me that so many people think that Brat_OK will win over arguably the best foreign protoss in the world -,-

Best foreign protoss - for sure. Best P in the WORLD? Dont think so....
"Everybody poops.... after Tasteless kills them" Artosis
Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
June 19 2011 17:52 GMT
#8403
On June 20 2011 02:50 Legace wrote:
I swear the drawing was rigged, MC vs. IdrA and no mirrors with that many protoss, ya right.

Looked wierd when Apollo helt the third to last paper under the table.


Are you trying to make yourself look stupid?
The truth is, Yagami-kun, I suspect that you may in fact be Kira.
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
June 19 2011 17:52 GMT
#8404
On June 20 2011 02:50 Legace wrote:
I swear the drawing was rigged, MC vs. IdrA and no mirrors with that many protoss, ya right.

Looked wierd when Apollo helt the third to last paper under the table.


They wouldn't rig it, at least not in a way like that, do you have any idea how it would have turned out if he accidentally picked the wrong paper?
We make signature, then defense it.
Nerdslayer
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark1130 Posts
June 19 2011 17:52 GMT
#8405
On June 20 2011 02:51 PHC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 02:44 imkp wrote:
On June 20 2011 02:43 PHC wrote:
On June 20 2011 02:41 imkp wrote:
On June 20 2011 02:40 Ertu wrote:
Nice,so if a foreigner is able to eliminate Moon,we'll propably have a foreigner vs Korean final. I soooo want to see that.


MC is in the upper bracket? So it should be MC vs Bomber finals or what?



No, the only Korean in the upper bracket is Moon. Bomber, July, MC all in the lower bracket:

DHS Playoff Brackets


That's really lame. Guess they didn't want top4 to be Koreans like in every other Tournament.



Yeah, it is lame. It's because they did random draws instead of seeding. Foreigners have a good chance to make it to the final because of it though, so it's not that bad I guess. It's just unlucky for the players that deserve a bigger stage when they face off. The real finals might be in the RO8, which is kind of absurd... Maybe they will have seeds like in MLG


Well considering the players with the highest win ratio is all none koreans you argument preatty dumb
darlhet
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy548 Posts
June 19 2011 17:52 GMT
#8406
On June 20 2011 02:49 tdt wrote:
How can idra MC be rival? What a joke. MC's won over $200K Idra $12K.

the fact that MC's achievements are far superior to Idra's ones is true but idra has proven to be able to take down MC in a tuornament the only one of the foreigners to achieve this so far , so people are hoping for some awesome games, like in Huk vs Moon , but better
"i feel like im wasting your time" qxc to whitera after getting crushed 0-4
Phenrei
Profile Joined July 2010
United States162 Posts
June 19 2011 17:52 GMT
#8407
On June 20 2011 02:48 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 02:46 Chocolate wrote:
On June 20 2011 02:45 BaLoO- wrote:
lol, did they use a rule forbidding Protoss mirrors or ? The probability of having no mirrors with 8 protoss was kinda small !

there was actually a very small chance of mirrors because all but 2 toss were #1


No there was actually a very big chance of mirrors because there were 5 #1 and 3 #2

Probabilistically

5 choose 0 * 3 choose 3 / (8 choose 3) =

1 / (8 choose 3)

3!*5!/8!

= 1 / 56

< 2% of no mirrors in Round 1.


Except there were 6 and 2, F and H would have had to hit each other (which they did). Given non-replace draw the probability is all kinds of fucked (or I'm just rusty at prob/stat).
Musclecore
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Sweden103 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 17:52:38
June 19 2011 17:52 GMT
#8408
On June 20 2011 02:50 Bobble wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 02:49 Musclecore wrote:
On June 20 2011 02:47 Kevan wrote:
On June 20 2011 02:45 Musclecore wrote:
Socke vs. Ret or Moon vs. WhiteRa, can't chose which to watch.... Let's see what streams they end up on, I guess, and the favourite in broadcasting will decide.

Naniwa - Brat_OK is the you shall watch


Not as emotionally invested in that matchup compared to the other two. Will watch the rest when there's VOD's.


You said favourite in broadcasting. Since Day9 is casting Naniwa vs Brat_OK, it seems obvious.


That may be, discounting the most important variable. If any of the two sets I mentioned would've been broadcast by Day9 and Apollo, I would've picked that stream.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 17:53:34
June 19 2011 17:52 GMT
#8409
On June 20 2011 02:51 taldarimAltar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 02:43 Xiaon wrote:
On June 20 2011 02:42 Teoyaomqui wrote:
On June 20 2011 02:35 JAN0L wrote:
Why MC(or Koreans overall) hates IdrA so much? can anyone explain?


Probably because Idra is very bad mannered and in korean culture it's very important to be good mannered.


MC is actually friends with Idra.

In recent interviews they say they just 'play it up'.

I think you're over generalising it, where does MC say he's friends with idra? I heard koreans dislike him because he's bm on korean ladder


MC had the Korean translator post in his TL fanclub that MC and IdrA are decent friends outside of the game and sometimes talk. I think the Koreans didn't care too much and were just starting up rivalries, Clide and Zenio both apologized when IdrA left asking if it was because of their BM.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
DestroManiak
Profile Joined December 2010
257 Posts
June 19 2011 17:52 GMT
#8410
QUESTION
who is apollo?
Does he only commentate dreamhack?
?????
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
June 19 2011 17:52 GMT
#8411
Sticking with my pick of MC to win it all.
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 14 2011 14:11 garlicface wrote:
Wow, these groups are all REALLY even. As soon as I think, "this looks like a group of death," another one catches my eye.

So pumped for this. I just hope my internet can handle it this time.

My picks:
+ Show Spoiler +
Group A
Ret - winner
Naniwa

Group B
Morrow - winner
DIMAGA

Group C
SaSe - winner
IdrA

Group D
MC - winner
Sen

Group E
HuK - winner
DeMusliM

Group F
July - winner
Thorzain

Group G
NaDa - winner
Jinro

Group H
Bomber - winner
HayprO

Oh, and MC to win it all.

HuK, Naniwa, Bomber, MC top 4. (The brackets permit those guys as top 4, right?)
#TeamBuLba
Rawr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden624 Posts
June 19 2011 17:52 GMT
#8412
On June 20 2011 02:51 BertiliO wrote:
Totalbiscuit not casting btw?

They are taking a break. Mr. Biscuit is back to cast more later.
Joo Se-Hyuk
Husnan
Profile Joined November 2010
France298 Posts
June 19 2011 17:52 GMT
#8413
Do we know which games will be on which stream yet?
You see what happens, Larry? You see what happens when you fuck a stranger in the ass?
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
June 19 2011 17:52 GMT
#8414
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/DreamHack_Summer_2011/Bracket
Calling the top 4: (Naniwa, HuK) , (July, MC)
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
trancey_
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany729 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 17:54:49
June 19 2011 17:52 GMT
#8415
is there a mirror for the results page?
I'm not whining but stating that own3d.tv (Khaldor), Justin.tv (others) and the results page on binarybeast.com are all down so i can watch nothing and would like to avoid scanning 420 pages of this thread for every result. tl wiki will also not load.

also on which stream is socke streamed?
Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
June 19 2011 17:52 GMT
#8416
Also, IdrA's road should be MC -> Bomber -> Naniwa/White-ra
To get to the finals, talk about a though bracket!
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
June 19 2011 17:53 GMT
#8417
When does RO16 start?
MC for president
flowSthead
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1065 Posts
June 19 2011 17:53 GMT
#8418
On June 20 2011 02:51 PHC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 02:44 imkp wrote:
On June 20 2011 02:43 PHC wrote:
On June 20 2011 02:41 imkp wrote:
On June 20 2011 02:40 Ertu wrote:
Nice,so if a foreigner is able to eliminate Moon,we'll propably have a foreigner vs Korean final. I soooo want to see that.


MC is in the upper bracket? So it should be MC vs Bomber finals or what?



No, the only Korean in the upper bracket is Moon. Bomber, July, MC all in the lower bracket:

DHS Playoff Brackets


That's really lame. Guess they didn't want top4 to be Koreans like in every other Tournament.



Yeah, it is lame. It's because they did random draws instead of seeding. Foreigners have a good chance to make it to the final because of it though, so it's not that bad I guess. It's just unlucky for the players that deserve a bigger stage when they face off. The real finals might be in the RO8, which is kind of absurd... Maybe they will have seeds like in MLG


I would be pretty pumped for a Naniwa vs Bomber finals. I don't consider that lame at all. Of course it might be a little anti-climactic if it is Naniwa vs MC or something. But not really lame.
"You can be creative but I will crush it under the iron fist of my conservative play." - Liquid`Tyler █ MVP ■ MC ■ Boxer ■ Grubby █
flojito
Profile Joined February 2011
136 Posts
June 19 2011 17:53 GMT
#8419
Guys, the math is not that hard. Of the 8 groups, 6 had P winning and T or Z coming in second. 2 had T or Z coming in first and P coming in second.

The only way for there to be no PvP in the first round is to have the two groups with P coming in second place get drawn together.

Since each group has an equal probability of being paired with any other group, there was a 1/7 chance that there would be no PvP mirror matches in the round of 16.
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
June 19 2011 17:53 GMT
#8420
On June 20 2011 02:50 00Visor wrote:
I still don't believe they let the players of same groups meet in 2nd round. Maybe Day9 just got it wrong.


And my doubts were rightful.
http://dreamhack.binarybeast.com/xSC21106162/
Thank god.
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