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Thanks for making the topic. :p
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What?! I didn't know this was happening today! Sweet!
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yay let the spam begin and thanks mot
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Cheers for the thread ill live report first few games but probably not the final one
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what the hell is going on on the stream right now? incontrol and gretorp talking with loud music and a green screen
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On June 18 2011 09:43 iamahydralisk wrote: what the hell is going on on the stream right now? incontrol and gretorp talking with loud music and a green screen seen this before, pre-"show" or something. last time it happened when they where done tho
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On June 18 2011 09:38 Drazerk wrote: Cheers for the thread ill live report first few games but probably not the final one must conserve energy for this whole weekend of games?
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On June 18 2011 09:53 sc14s wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 09:38 Drazerk wrote: Cheers for the thread ill live report first few games but probably not the final one must conserve energy for this whole weekend of games?
Just come from a nap
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What the hell did they do to Moletrap..he looks 10 years older.
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Was this not on the calendar until a few minutes ago? Anyways go Fenix or Hasuobs! Wish they didn't have to play each other first.
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On June 18 2011 09:58 red4ce wrote: Was this not on the calendar until a few minutes ago? Anyways go Fenix or Hasuobs! Wish they didn't have to play each other first.
From what I have heard the NASL keeps forgetting to submit it however the stream comes online
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Moletrap is such a terrible caster .... He doesn't know anything about starcraft and is extremely korean-biased, that is annoying
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On June 18 2011 10:02 Drazerk wrote:Match One has started Ace vs Brat_Ok First game on Backwater gulch Ace is in the bottom left While Brat_Ok is located in the top right
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Gateway/rax on the way
Gas for Ace
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On June 18 2011 10:03 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:02 Drazerk wrote:Match One has started Ace vs Brat_Ok First game on Backwater gulch Ace is in the bottom left While Brat_Ok is located in the top right 2:10 Gateway/rax on the way Gas for Ace
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Core and orbital on the way
Single marine out for Brat_Ok
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On June 18 2011 10:03 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:03 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:02 Drazerk wrote:Match One has started Ace vs Brat_Ok First game on Backwater gulch Ace is in the bottom left While Brat_Ok is located in the top right 2:10 Gateway/rax on the way Gas for Ace 3:00 Core and orbital on the way Single marine out for Brat_Ok
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Scout of Ace dies
Expansion on the way for Brat_Ok
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On June 18 2011 10:04 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:03 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:03 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:02 Drazerk wrote:Match One has started Ace vs Brat_Ok First game on Backwater gulch Ace is in the bottom left While Brat_Ok is located in the top right 2:10 Gateway/rax on the way Gas for Ace 3:00 Core and orbital on the way Single marine out for Brat_Ok 3:30 Scout of Ace dies Expansion on the way for Brat_Ok
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Warp gate on the way for Ace
getting stalkers
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yesssss just got back in time. ^^
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On June 18 2011 10:04 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:04 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:03 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:03 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:02 Drazerk wrote:Match One has started Ace vs Brat_Ok First game on Backwater gulch Ace is in the bottom left While Brat_Ok is located in the top right 2:10 Gateway/rax on the way Gas for Ace 3:00 Core and orbital on the way Single marine out for Brat_Ok 3:30 Scout of Ace dies Expansion on the way for Brat_Ok 4:10 Warp gate on the way for Ace getting stalkers
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Robo on the way for Ace
2 Gas out for Brat_Ok
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On June 18 2011 10:05 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:04 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:04 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:03 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:03 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:02 Drazerk wrote:Match One has started Ace vs Brat_Ok First game on Backwater gulch Ace is in the bottom left While Brat_Ok is located in the top right 2:10 Gateway/rax on the way Gas for Ace 3:00 Core and orbital on the way Single marine out for Brat_Ok 3:30 Scout of Ace dies Expansion on the way for Brat_Ok 4:10 Warp gate on the way for Ace getting stalkers 4:50 Robo on the way for Ace 2 Gas out for Brat_Ok
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Have we had an explanation yet as to why we are being forced to pay for 480p now, considering it was free this entire time.
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okey... 360p is highest resolution for non-paying ppl now... I am disappoint
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On June 18 2011 10:05 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:05 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:04 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:04 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:03 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:03 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:02 Drazerk wrote:Match One has started Ace vs Brat_Ok First game on Backwater gulch Ace is in the bottom left While Brat_Ok is located in the top right 2:10 Gateway/rax on the way Gas for Ace 3:00 Core and orbital on the way Single marine out for Brat_Ok 3:30 Scout of Ace dies Expansion on the way for Brat_Ok 4:10 Warp gate on the way for Ace getting stalkers 4:50 Robo on the way for Ace 2 Gas out for Brat_Ok 5:40 First tech lab out for Brat_Ok and getting stim
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Nexus on the way for Ace
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On June 18 2011 10:06 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:05 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:05 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:04 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:04 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:03 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:03 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:02 Drazerk wrote:Match One has started Ace vs Brat_Ok First game on Backwater gulch Ace is in the bottom left While Brat_Ok is located in the top right 2:10 Gateway/rax on the way Gas for Ace 3:00 Core and orbital on the way Single marine out for Brat_Ok 3:30 Scout of Ace dies Expansion on the way for Brat_Ok 4:10 Warp gate on the way for Ace getting stalkers 4:50 Robo on the way for Ace 2 Gas out for Brat_Ok 5:40 First tech lab out for Brat_Ok and getting stim 6:30 Nexus on the way for Ace
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Immortal on the way for Ace
Combat shield and ghost academy on the way for Brat_Ok
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On June 18 2011 10:07 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:06 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:05 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:05 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:04 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:04 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:03 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:03 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:02 Drazerk wrote:Match One has started Ace vs Brat_Ok First game on Backwater gulch Ace is in the bottom left While Brat_Ok is located in the top right 2:10 Gateway/rax on the way Gas for Ace 3:00 Core and orbital on the way Single marine out for Brat_Ok 3:30 Scout of Ace dies Expansion on the way for Brat_Ok 4:10 Warp gate on the way for Ace getting stalkers 4:50 Robo on the way for Ace 2 Gas out for Brat_Ok 5:40 First tech lab out for Brat_Ok and getting stim 6:30 Nexus on the way for Ace 7:20 Immortal on the way for Ace Combat shield and ghost academy on the way for Brat_Ok
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Observer dies for ace
Robo Bay now on the way
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On June 18 2011 10:07 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:07 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:06 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:05 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:05 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:04 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:04 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:03 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:03 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:02 Drazerk wrote:Match One has started Ace vs Brat_Ok First game on Backwater gulch Ace is in the bottom left While Brat_Ok is located in the top right 2:10 Gateway/rax on the way Gas for Ace 3:00 Core and orbital on the way Single marine out for Brat_Ok 3:30 Scout of Ace dies Expansion on the way for Brat_Ok 4:10 Warp gate on the way for Ace getting stalkers 4:50 Robo on the way for Ace 2 Gas out for Brat_Ok 5:40 First tech lab out for Brat_Ok and getting stim 6:30 Nexus on the way for Ace 7:20 Immortal on the way for Ace Combat shield and ghost academy on the way for Brat_Ok 8:00 Observer dies for ace Robo Bay now on the way
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Brat_Ok moving down the map
Two more gateways for Ace
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On June 18 2011 10:08 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:07 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:07 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:06 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:05 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:05 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:04 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:04 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:03 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:03 Drazerk wrote: [quote]
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Gateway/rax on the way
Gas for Ace 3:00 Core and orbital on the way Single marine out for Brat_Ok 3:30 Scout of Ace dies Expansion on the way for Brat_Ok 4:10 Warp gate on the way for Ace getting stalkers 4:50 Robo on the way for Ace 2 Gas out for Brat_Ok 5:40 First tech lab out for Brat_Ok and getting stim 6:30 Nexus on the way for Ace 7:20 Immortal on the way for Ace Combat shield and ghost academy on the way for Brat_Ok 8:00 Observer dies for ace Robo Bay now on the way 8:40 Brat_Ok moving down the map Two more gateways for Ace
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Concussive shells and bio weapons +1 for Brat_Ok
Colossus almost out buying time with forcefields
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On June 18 2011 10:08 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:08 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:07 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:07 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:06 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:05 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:05 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:04 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:04 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:03 Drazerk wrote: [quote]
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Core and orbital on the way
Single marine out for Brat_Ok 3:30 Scout of Ace dies Expansion on the way for Brat_Ok 4:10 Warp gate on the way for Ace getting stalkers 4:50 Robo on the way for Ace 2 Gas out for Brat_Ok 5:40 First tech lab out for Brat_Ok and getting stim 6:30 Nexus on the way for Ace 7:20 Immortal on the way for Ace Combat shield and ghost academy on the way for Brat_Ok 8:00 Observer dies for ace Robo Bay now on the way 8:40 Brat_Ok moving down the map Two more gateways for Ace 9:20 Concussive shells and bio weapons +1 for Brat_Ok Colossus almost out buying time with forcefields
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Brat_Ok engages getting great EMPs
Colossus doing huge damage
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Nice micro on the colossus completely saved Ace there
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On June 18 2011 10:09 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:08 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:08 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:07 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:07 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:06 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:05 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:05 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:04 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:04 Drazerk wrote: [quote]
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Scout of Ace dies
Expansion on the way for Brat_Ok 4:10 Warp gate on the way for Ace getting stalkers 4:50 Robo on the way for Ace 2 Gas out for Brat_Ok 5:40 First tech lab out for Brat_Ok and getting stim 6:30 Nexus on the way for Ace 7:20 Immortal on the way for Ace Combat shield and ghost academy on the way for Brat_Ok 8:00 Observer dies for ace Robo Bay now on the way 8:40 Brat_Ok moving down the map Two more gateways for Ace 9:20 Concussive shells and bio weapons +1 for Brat_Ok Colossus almost out buying time with forcefields 10:20 Brat_Ok engages getting great EMPs Colossus doing huge damage
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On June 18 2011 10:09 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:09 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:08 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:08 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:07 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:07 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:06 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:05 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:05 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:04 Drazerk wrote: [quote]
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Warp gate on the way for Ace
getting stalkers
4:50 Robo on the way for Ace 2 Gas out for Brat_Ok 5:40 First tech lab out for Brat_Ok and getting stim 6:30 Nexus on the way for Ace 7:20 Immortal on the way for Ace Combat shield and ghost academy on the way for Brat_Ok 8:00 Observer dies for ace Robo Bay now on the way 8:40 Brat_Ok moving down the map Two more gateways for Ace 9:20 Concussive shells and bio weapons +1 for Brat_Ok Colossus almost out buying time with forcefields 10:20 Brat_Ok engages getting great EMPs Colossus doing huge damage 10:50 Colossus survives allowing Ace to clean up Brat_Ok's army
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Ace moving up the map getting his forge
Vikings on the way for Brat_Ok
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On June 18 2011 10:10 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:09 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:09 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:08 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:08 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:07 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:07 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:06 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:05 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:05 Drazerk wrote: [quote]
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Robo on the way for Ace
2 Gas out for Brat_Ok 5:40 First tech lab out for Brat_Ok and getting stim 6:30 Nexus on the way for Ace 7:20 Immortal on the way for Ace Combat shield and ghost academy on the way for Brat_Ok 8:00 Observer dies for ace Robo Bay now on the way 8:40 Brat_Ok moving down the map Two more gateways for Ace 9:20 Concussive shells and bio weapons +1 for Brat_Ok Colossus almost out buying time with forcefields 10:20 Brat_Ok engages getting great EMPs Colossus doing huge damage 10:50 Colossus survives allowing Ace to clean up Brat_Ok's army 12:00 Ace moving up the map getting his forge Vikings on the way for Brat_Ok
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Twilight council and Weapons +1 for Ace
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On June 18 2011 10:10 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:10 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:09 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:09 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:08 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:08 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:07 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:07 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:06 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:05 Drazerk wrote: [quote]
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First tech lab out for Brat_Ok and getting stim
6:30 Nexus on the way for Ace 7:20 Immortal on the way for Ace Combat shield and ghost academy on the way for Brat_Ok 8:00 Observer dies for ace Robo Bay now on the way 8:40 Brat_Ok moving down the map Two more gateways for Ace 9:20 Concussive shells and bio weapons +1 for Brat_Ok Colossus almost out buying time with forcefields 10:20 Brat_Ok engages getting great EMPs Colossus doing huge damage 10:50 Colossus survives allowing Ace to clean up Brat_Ok's army 12:00 Ace moving up the map getting his forge Vikings on the way for Brat_Ok 12:30 Twilight council and Weapons +1 for Ace
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On June 18 2011 10:11 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:10 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:10 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:09 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:09 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:08 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:08 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:07 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:07 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:06 Drazerk wrote: [quote]
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Nexus on the way for Ace
7:20 Immortal on the way for Ace Combat shield and ghost academy on the way for Brat_Ok 8:00 Observer dies for ace Robo Bay now on the way 8:40 Brat_Ok moving down the map Two more gateways for Ace 9:20 Concussive shells and bio weapons +1 for Brat_Ok Colossus almost out buying time with forcefields 10:20 Brat_Ok engages getting great EMPs Colossus doing huge damage 10:50 Colossus survives allowing Ace to clean up Brat_Ok's army 12:00 Ace moving up the map getting his forge Vikings on the way for Brat_Ok 12:30 Twilight council and Weapons +1 for Ace 13:30 Blink now on the way for Ace
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Third base on the way for Ace
Brat_Ok moving down the map
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Immortal on the way for Ace
Combat shield and ghost academy on the way for Brat_Ok 8:00 Observer dies for ace Robo Bay now on the way 8:40 Brat_Ok moving down the map Two more gateways for Ace 9:20 Concussive shells and bio weapons +1 for Brat_Ok Colossus almost out buying time with forcefields 10:20 Brat_Ok engages getting great EMPs Colossus doing huge damage 10:50 Colossus survives allowing Ace to clean up Brat_Ok's army 12:00 Ace moving up the map getting his forge Vikings on the way for Brat_Ok 12:30 Twilight council and Weapons +1 for Ace 13:30 Blink now on the way for Ace 14:00 Third base on the way for Ace Brat_Ok moving down the map
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Armour +1 now on the way for Ace
Brat_Ok trying to tempt the army of ace out
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Wow Ace with a huge miscalculation loses his entire army
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On June 18 2011 10:12 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:11 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:11 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:10 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:10 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:09 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:09 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:08 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:08 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:07 Drazerk wrote: [quote]
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Observer dies for ace
Robo Bay now on the way 8:40 Brat_Ok moving down the map Two more gateways for Ace 9:20 Concussive shells and bio weapons +1 for Brat_Ok Colossus almost out buying time with forcefields 10:20 Brat_Ok engages getting great EMPs Colossus doing huge damage 10:50 Colossus survives allowing Ace to clean up Brat_Ok's army 12:00 Ace moving up the map getting his forge Vikings on the way for Brat_Ok 12:30 Twilight council and Weapons +1 for Ace 13:30 Blink now on the way for Ace 14:00 Third base on the way for Ace Brat_Ok moving down the map 14:50 Armour +1 now on the way for Ace Brat_Ok trying to tempt the army of ace out
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Why on earth would you blink stalkers into marauders ?
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the commentators are really ANNOYING with their constant, nonstop, fluiding, rapidfire "comments".
Why not try, just try say few words full of sense, instead all that trashing words filling to the end of my brain.
just turned them off. enjoy the silence.
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Brat_Ok moving down the map
Two more gateways for Ace 9:20 Concussive shells and bio weapons +1 for Brat_Ok Colossus almost out buying time with forcefields 10:20 Brat_Ok engages getting great EMPs Colossus doing huge damage 10:50 Colossus survives allowing Ace to clean up Brat_Ok's army 12:00 Ace moving up the map getting his forge Vikings on the way for Brat_Ok 12:30 Twilight council and Weapons +1 for Ace 13:30 Blink now on the way for Ace 14:00 Third base on the way for Ace Brat_Ok moving down the map 14:50 Armour +1 now on the way for Ace Brat_Ok trying to tempt the army of ace out 15:20 Ace engages the army but Brat_Ok manages to kill Ace's army forcing a cancel on the third
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That was a terrible attack by Ace, BratOK got a great concave on him and his FF actually hurt him more than helping
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On June 18 2011 10:13 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:13 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:12 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:11 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:11 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:10 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:10 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:09 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:09 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:08 Drazerk wrote: [quote]
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Concussive shells and bio weapons +1 for Brat_Ok
Colossus almost out buying time with forcefields
10:20 Brat_Ok engages getting great EMPs Colossus doing huge damage 10:50 Colossus survives allowing Ace to clean up Brat_Ok's army 12:00 Ace moving up the map getting his forge Vikings on the way for Brat_Ok 12:30 Twilight council and Weapons +1 for Ace 13:30 Blink now on the way for Ace 14:00 Third base on the way for Ace Brat_Ok moving down the map 14:50 Armour +1 now on the way for Ace Brat_Ok trying to tempt the army of ace out 15:20 Ace engages the army but Brat_Ok manages to kill Ace's army forcing a cancel on the third 15:40 Brat_Ok still attacking picking off stalkers and colossus
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Ace GGs and leaves the game
Brat_Ok takes the first game
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On June 18 2011 10:13 stunny wrote: the commentators are really ANNOYING with their constant, nonstop, fluiding, rapidfire "comments".
Why not try, just try say few words full of sense, instead all that trashing words filling to the end of my brain.
just turned them off. enjoy the silence.
agree. this is a pretty bad combo, but i like moletraps solo casting.
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Horrible decision. So far in the open..... stim + FF did nothing.
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More tie-swapping shenanigans.
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u win or lose with forcefields in pvt. and well, missusing blink doesnt help
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Btw, is Diggity trying to troll us by calling him Bray-tok? Day9 does the same thing with HasuObs lol.
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OMG thank you NASL for dressing the commentators like that today.
Couldn't stop laughing for like 5 mins, fixed the shitty day I was having!
Wow....
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No range on the colossi from ace either :s
That's textbook how to throw away a won game...
also, stalkers vs marauders... na-ah... that's what zealots are for
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Game Two starting soon on Xel'naga Caverns
Brat_Ok is 1-0 up in the series
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Who is that guy commentating with Moletrap? He is freaken huge.
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On June 18 2011 10:16 HeroMystic wrote: Who is that guy commentating with Moletrap? He is freaken huge.
Diggity I believe.
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This is what I am talking about!!!! I am loving these Playoff with all the players fighting as hard as they can, even if mistakes are made they dive back into the game and go for it.
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Am I the only one who prefers the other NASL casters? The others (especially iNc, idra, and mrbitter) have a very reserved analytical style -- these guys suffer a little bit from verbal diarrhea, without having the intensity and charisma that makes day[j]'s and tastosis' constant chatter entertaining and exciting.
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On June 18 2011 10:16 Drazerk wrote:Game Two starting soon on Xel'naga Caverns Brat_Ok is 1-0 up in the series
Game Two now started
Brat_Ok is located in the north
While in the south position is Ace
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On June 18 2011 10:16 j4vz wrote: poor colossy management from Ace.
Turns out it's hard to manage colossi well if you don't get thermal lance...
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On June 18 2011 10:17 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:16 Drazerk wrote:Game Two starting soon on Xel'naga Caverns Brat_Ok is 1-0 up in the series Game Two now started Brat_Ok is located in the north While in the south position is Ace
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First marine out for Brat_Ok
Ace getting second gas and a core
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On June 18 2011 10:19 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:18 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:18 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:17 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:16 Drazerk wrote:Game Two starting soon on Xel'naga Caverns Brat_Ok is 1-0 up in the series Game Two now started Brat_Ok is located in the north While in the south position is Ace 1:50 Gateway/barracks on the way 2:10 Gas on the way for both players 2:50 First marine out for Brat_Ok Ace getting second gas and a core
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On June 18 2011 10:13 stunny wrote: the commentators are really ANNOYING with their constant, nonstop, fluiding, rapidfire "comments".
Why not try, just try say few words full of sense, instead all that trashing words filling to the end of my brain.
just turned them off. enjoy the silence.
The problem is moletrap screaming over the other guy wich creates chaos. There are so many other casters out there that are so much better than moletrap like: Catspyjamas, raelcun or even guest casters like IdrA, painuser etc. That's my opinion but I somehow feel like moletrap isn't loved by the majority of the community. It feels more as people are scared to see him buthurt.
He really pissed me off yesterday when he kept saying MorroW is known for his baneling busts and almost saying that's all he can do.. Morrow has a unique ZvP that none else uses yet afaik (ling/bling infestor) and he clearly showed that he can play ZvT well in a standup macro game.
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On June 18 2011 10:19 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:19 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:18 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:18 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:17 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:16 Drazerk wrote:Game Two starting soon on Xel'naga Caverns Brat_Ok is 1-0 up in the series Game Two now started Brat_Ok is located in the north While in the south position is Ace 1:50 Gateway/barracks on the way 2:10 Gas on the way for both players 2:50 First marine out for Brat_Ok Ace getting second gas and a core 3:30 Factory and second gas for Brat_Ok
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Robo on the way for Ace
Brat_Ok getting a starport
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On June 18 2011 10:17 entropius wrote: Am I the only one who prefers the other NASL casters? The others (especially iNc, idra, and mrbitter) have a very reserved analytical style -- these guys suffer a little bit from verbal diarrhea, without having the intensity and charisma that makes day[j]'s and tastosis' constant chatter entertaining and exciting. I completely agree, I might rather watch husky than moletrap. However, I haven't seen diggity too much so I don't know how I fell about him.
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On June 18 2011 10:20 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:19 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:19 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:18 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:18 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:17 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:16 Drazerk wrote:Game Two starting soon on Xel'naga Caverns Brat_Ok is 1-0 up in the series Game Two now started Brat_Ok is located in the north While in the south position is Ace 1:50 Gateway/barracks on the way 2:10 Gas on the way for both players 2:50 First marine out for Brat_Ok Ace getting second gas and a core 3:30 Factory and second gas for Brat_Ok 4:30 Robo on the way for Ace Brat_Ok getting a starport
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Tech lab now on the starport getting a raven
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Terrible play by Ace, you can do better than that
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Point Defense Drone = Hoping for sentry heavy play?
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On June 18 2011 10:21 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:20 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:19 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:19 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:18 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:18 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:17 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:16 Drazerk wrote:Game Two starting soon on Xel'naga Caverns Brat_Ok is 1-0 up in the series Game Two now started Brat_Ok is located in the north While in the south position is Ace 1:50 Gateway/barracks on the way 2:10 Gas on the way for both players 2:50 First marine out for Brat_Ok Ace getting second gas and a core 3:30 Factory and second gas for Brat_Ok 4:30 Robo on the way for Ace Brat_Ok getting a starport 5:30 Tech lab now on the starport getting a raven
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Expansion on the way for both players
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Lol. Goes 1-1-1 on Xel Naga Caverns, casters think he is doing hellion drop? Obviously tank/marine/raven all in incoming.
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On June 18 2011 10:21 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:21 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:20 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:19 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:19 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:18 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:18 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:17 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:16 Drazerk wrote:Game Two starting soon on Xel'naga Caverns Brat_Ok is 1-0 up in the series Game Two now started Brat_Ok is located in the north While in the south position is Ace 1:50 Gateway/barracks on the way 2:10 Gas on the way for both players 2:50 First marine out for Brat_Ok Ace getting second gas and a core 3:30 Factory and second gas for Brat_Ok 4:30 Robo on the way for Ace Brat_Ok getting a starport 5:30 Tech lab now on the starport getting a raven 6:20 Expansion on the way for both players
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Stim starting
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On June 18 2011 10:22 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:21 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:21 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:20 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:19 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:19 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:18 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:18 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:17 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:16 Drazerk wrote:Game Two starting soon on Xel'naga Caverns Brat_Ok is 1-0 up in the series Game Two now started Brat_Ok is located in the north While in the south position is Ace 1:50 Gateway/barracks on the way 2:10 Gas on the way for both players 2:50 First marine out for Brat_Ok Ace getting second gas and a core 3:30 Factory and second gas for Brat_Ok 4:30 Robo on the way for Ace Brat_Ok getting a starport 5:30 Tech lab now on the starport getting a raven 6:20 Expansion on the way for both players 7:00 Stim starting Observer manages to pop in and out of Brat_Ok's base alive
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Robo bay on the way for Ace
Double gas at his expansion
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On June 18 2011 10:23 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:22 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:21 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:21 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:20 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:19 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:19 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:18 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:18 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:17 Drazerk wrote:[quote] Game Two now started Brat_Ok is located in the north While in the south position is Ace 1:50 Gateway/barracks on the way 2:10 Gas on the way for both players 2:50 First marine out for Brat_Ok Ace getting second gas and a core 3:30 Factory and second gas for Brat_Ok 4:30 Robo on the way for Ace Brat_Ok getting a starport 5:30 Tech lab now on the starport getting a raven 6:20 Expansion on the way for both players 7:00 Stim starting Observer manages to pop in and out of Brat_Ok's base alive 8:10 Observer dies Robo bay on the way for Ace Double gas at his expansion
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First colossus on the way for ace
Combat shield for Brat_Ok
Post 5000
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Gateway/barracks on the way 2:10 Gas on the way for both players 2:50 First marine out for Brat_Ok Ace getting second gas and a core 3:30 Factory and second gas for Brat_Ok 4:30 Robo on the way for Ace Brat_Ok getting a starport 5:30 Tech lab now on the starport getting a raven 6:20 Expansion on the way for both players 7:00 Stim starting Observer manages to pop in and out of Brat_Ok's base alive 8:10 Observer dies Robo bay on the way for Ace Double gas at his expansion 10:00 First colossus on the way for ace Combat shield for Brat_Ok Post 5000
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Thermal lance on the way
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Gas on the way for both players 2:50 First marine out for Brat_Ok Ace getting second gas and a core 3:30 Factory and second gas for Brat_Ok 4:30 Robo on the way for Ace Brat_Ok getting a starport 5:30 Tech lab now on the starport getting a raven 6:20 Expansion on the way for both players 7:00 Stim starting Observer manages to pop in and out of Brat_Ok's base alive 8:10 Observer dies Robo bay on the way for Ace Double gas at his expansion 10:00 First colossus on the way for ace Combat shield for Brat_Ok Post 5000 10:30 Thermal lance on the way Brat_Ok moving down the map
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Great forcefields kill half the army of Brat_Ok
Twilight council for Ace
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On June 18 2011 10:21 Heavenly wrote: Lol. Goes 1-1-1 on Xel Naga Caverns, casters think he is doing hellion drop? Obviously tank/marine/raven all in incoming.
All-in you say..?
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First marine out for Brat_Ok
Ace getting second gas and a core 3:30 Factory and second gas for Brat_Ok 4:30 Robo on the way for Ace Brat_Ok getting a starport 5:30 Tech lab now on the starport getting a raven 6:20 Expansion on the way for both players 7:00 Stim starting Observer manages to pop in and out of Brat_Ok's base alive 8:10 Observer dies Robo bay on the way for Ace Double gas at his expansion 10:00 First colossus on the way for ace Combat shield for Brat_Ok Post 5000 10:30 Thermal lance on the way Brat_Ok moving down the map 11:00 Great forcefields kill half the army of Brat_Ok Twilight council for Ace
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A lot of gateways for Ace
Blink and weapons +1 on the way
Vikings and bio weapons +1 on the way for Brat_Ok
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Factory and second gas for Brat_Ok 4:30 Robo on the way for Ace Brat_Ok getting a starport 5:30 Tech lab now on the starport getting a raven 6:20 Expansion on the way for both players 7:00 Stim starting Observer manages to pop in and out of Brat_Ok's base alive 8:10 Observer dies Robo bay on the way for Ace Double gas at his expansion 10:00 First colossus on the way for ace Combat shield for Brat_Ok Post 5000 10:30 Thermal lance on the way Brat_Ok moving down the map 11:00 Great forcefields kill half the army of Brat_Ok Twilight council for Ace 12:00 A lot of gateways for Ace Blink and weapons +1 on the way Vikings and bio weapons +1 on the way for Brat_Ok
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Blink finishes and charge starts
Brat_Ok moving down the map
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Ace screwed pretty hard by lag.
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such poor play from ace he's usually so good
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lag, ace?
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Robo on the way for Ace
Brat_Ok getting a starport 5:30 Tech lab now on the starport getting a raven 6:20 Expansion on the way for both players 7:00 Stim starting Observer manages to pop in and out of Brat_Ok's base alive 8:10 Observer dies Robo bay on the way for Ace Double gas at his expansion 10:00 First colossus on the way for ace Combat shield for Brat_Ok Post 5000 10:30 Thermal lance on the way Brat_Ok moving down the map 11:00 Great forcefields kill half the army of Brat_Ok Twilight council for Ace 12:00 A lot of gateways for Ace Blink and weapons +1 on the way Vikings and bio weapons +1 on the way for Brat_Ok 13:10
Blink finishes and charge starts Brat_Ok moving down the map
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Ace has a bad movement path losing a lot of his stalkers
Armies now engaging
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Ace suicides some stalkers and loses 1 colossus, good forcefields allow ace to defend.
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Tech lab now on the starport getting a raven 6:20 Expansion on the way for both players 7:00 Stim starting Observer manages to pop in and out of Brat_Ok's base alive 8:10 Observer dies Robo bay on the way for Ace Double gas at his expansion 10:00 First colossus on the way for ace Combat shield for Brat_Ok Post 5000 10:30 Thermal lance on the way Brat_Ok moving down the map 11:00 Great forcefields kill half the army of Brat_Ok Twilight council for Ace 12:00 A lot of gateways for Ace Blink and weapons +1 on the way Vikings and bio weapons +1 on the way for Brat_Ok 13:10
Blink finishes and charge starts Brat_Ok moving down the map 13;30 Ace has a bad movement path losing a lot of his stalkers Armies now engaging
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Brat_Ok over extends himself landing his Vikings then loosing the whole army
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On June 18 2011 10:26 lucasesper wrote: Ace screwed pretty hard by lag.
On June 18 2011 10:27 iyoume wrote:lag, ace?
Yep, man that hurt, moving 12 stalkers into a marauder ball and not even being able to blink away.
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Expansion on the way for both players 7:00 Stim starting Observer manages to pop in and out of Brat_Ok's base alive 8:10 Observer dies Robo bay on the way for Ace Double gas at his expansion 10:00 First colossus on the way for ace Combat shield for Brat_Ok Post 5000 10:30 Thermal lance on the way Brat_Ok moving down the map 11:00 Great forcefields kill half the army of Brat_Ok Twilight council for Ace 12:00 A lot of gateways for Ace Blink and weapons +1 on the way Vikings and bio weapons +1 on the way for Brat_Ok 13:10
Blink finishes and charge starts Brat_Ok moving down the map 13;30 Ace has a bad movement path losing a lot of his stalkers Armies now engaging 14:50
Brat_Ok over extends himself landing his Vikings then loosing the whole army
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Expansions on the way for both players
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could it be lag?
and i m not talking out of my ass
1)stalker at watchtower obviously sees huge army but doesnt move 2)stalker moving in or I could be wrong and he just a moved
just saying lol
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On June 18 2011 10:20 Anton K wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:13 stunny wrote: the commentators are really ANNOYING with their constant, nonstop, fluiding, rapidfire "comments".
Why not try, just try say few words full of sense, instead all that trashing words filling to the end of my brain.
just turned them off. enjoy the silence. The problem is moletrap screaming over the other guy wich creates chaos. There are so many other casters out there that are so much better than moletrap like: Catspyjamas, raelcun or even guest casters like IdrA, painuser etc. That's my opinion but I somehow feel like moletrap isn't loved by the majority of the community. It feels more as people are scared to see him buthurt. He really pissed me off yesterday when he kept saying MorroW is known for his baneling busts and almost saying that's all he can do.. Morrow has a unique ZvP that none else uses yet afaik (ling/bling infestor) and he clearly showed that he can play ZvT well in a standup macro game.
Moletrap actually has many fans from his broodwar casting days. The problem is that he's not good as a dual caster and he was a late convert to SC2 so his game knowledge is currently lacking.
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that was move command by ace, but he still defended despite losing 6+ stalkers for free
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He did overextend, but the real problem was the bio just attacking the pylons of ace while the vikings were taking down the colossus/getting torn apart by the stalkers, if the bio attacks aces army instead of the pylons we might be looking at a way different situation.
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Stim starting
Observer manages to pop in and out of Brat_Ok's base alive
8:10 Observer dies Robo bay on the way for Ace Double gas at his expansion 10:00 First colossus on the way for ace Combat shield for Brat_Ok Post 5000 10:30 Thermal lance on the way Brat_Ok moving down the map 11:00 Great forcefields kill half the army of Brat_Ok Twilight council for Ace 12:00 A lot of gateways for Ace Blink and weapons +1 on the way Vikings and bio weapons +1 on the way for Brat_Ok 13:10
Blink finishes and charge starts Brat_Ok moving down the map 13;30 Ace has a bad movement path losing a lot of his stalkers Armies now engaging 14:50
Brat_Ok over extends himself landing his Vikings then loosing the whole army 15:40
Expansions on the way for both players
17:20
Brat_Ok taking the gold base but is a orbital
armour +2 on the way for Ace
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Observer dies
Robo bay on the way for Ace
Double gas at his expansion 10:00 First colossus on the way for ace Combat shield for Brat_Ok Post 5000 10:30 Thermal lance on the way Brat_Ok moving down the map 11:00 Great forcefields kill half the army of Brat_Ok Twilight council for Ace 12:00 A lot of gateways for Ace Blink and weapons +1 on the way Vikings and bio weapons +1 on the way for Brat_Ok 13:10
Blink finishes and charge starts Brat_Ok moving down the map 13;30 Ace has a bad movement path losing a lot of his stalkers Armies now engaging 14:50
Brat_Ok over extends himself landing his Vikings then loosing the whole army 15:40
Expansions on the way for both players 17:20 Brat_Ok taking the gold base but is a orbital armour +2 on the way for Ace
19:00
Templar Archive on the way for Ace
Ghost Academy on the way for Brat_Ok
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On June 18 2011 10:30 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:29 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:28 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:27 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:27 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:26 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:25 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:25 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:24 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:23 Drazerk wrote:[quote] 10:00 First colossus on the way for ace Combat shield for Brat_Ok Post 5000 10:30 Thermal lance on the way Brat_Ok moving down the map 11:00 Great forcefields kill half the army of Brat_Ok Twilight council for Ace 12:00 A lot of gateways for Ace Blink and weapons +1 on the way Vikings and bio weapons +1 on the way for Brat_Ok 13:10
Blink finishes and charge starts Brat_Ok moving down the map 13;30 Ace has a bad movement path losing a lot of his stalkers Armies now engaging 14:50
Brat_Ok over extends himself landing his Vikings then loosing the whole army 15:40
Expansions on the way for both players 17:20 Brat_Ok taking the gold base but is a orbital armour +2 on the way for Ace 19:00 Templar Archive on the way for Ace Ghost Academy on the way for Brat_Ok
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Storm on the way for Ace
More gateways / barracks on the way
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Thermal lance on the way
Brat_Ok moving down the map 11:00 Great forcefields kill half the army of Brat_Ok Twilight council for Ace 12:00 A lot of gateways for Ace Blink and weapons +1 on the way Vikings and bio weapons +1 on the way for Brat_Ok 13:10
Blink finishes and charge starts Brat_Ok moving down the map 13;30 Ace has a bad movement path losing a lot of his stalkers Armies now engaging 14:50
Brat_Ok over extends himself landing his Vikings then loosing the whole army 15:40
Expansions on the way for both players 17:20 Brat_Ok taking the gold base but is a orbital armour +2 on the way for Ace 19:00 Templar Archive on the way for Ace Ghost Academy on the way for Brat_Ok 19:30 Storm on the way for Ace More gateways / barracks on the way
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Another Expansion on the way for Both players
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Great forcefields kill half the army of Brat_Ok
Twilight council for Ace
12:00 A lot of gateways for Ace Blink and weapons +1 on the way Vikings and bio weapons +1 on the way for Brat_Ok 13:10
Blink finishes and charge starts Brat_Ok moving down the map 13;30 Ace has a bad movement path losing a lot of his stalkers Armies now engaging 14:50
Brat_Ok over extends himself landing his Vikings then loosing the whole army 15:40
Expansions on the way for both players 17:20 Brat_Ok taking the gold base but is a orbital armour +2 on the way for Ace 19:00 Templar Archive on the way for Ace Ghost Academy on the way for Brat_Ok 19:30 Storm on the way for Ace More gateways / barracks on the way 20:30 Another Expansion on the way for Both players
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Both players are Maxed
Armies now being aggressive
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A lot of gateways for Ace
Blink and weapons +1 on the way
Vikings and bio weapons +1 on the way for Brat_Ok 13:10
Blink finishes and charge starts Brat_Ok moving down the map 13;30 Ace has a bad movement path losing a lot of his stalkers Armies now engaging 14:50
Brat_Ok over extends himself landing his Vikings then loosing the whole army 15:40
Expansions on the way for both players 17:20 Brat_Ok taking the gold base but is a orbital armour +2 on the way for Ace 19:00 Templar Archive on the way for Ace Ghost Academy on the way for Brat_Ok 19:30 Storm on the way for Ace More gateways / barracks on the way 20:30 Another Expansion on the way for Both players 21:30 Both players are Maxed Armies now being aggressive
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Stalkers wait for vikings all zellots die
Ace now on the run losing all his colossus
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On June 18 2011 10:33 Theoren wrote: What the hell was Ace doing there? what has he been doing since the first game ;s
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Blink finishes and charge starts
Brat_Ok moving down the map 13;30 Ace has a bad movement path losing a lot of his stalkers Armies now engaging 14:50
Brat_Ok over extends himself landing his Vikings then loosing the whole army 15:40
Expansions on the way for both players 17:20 Brat_Ok taking the gold base but is a orbital armour +2 on the way for Ace 19:00 Templar Archive on the way for Ace Ghost Academy on the way for Brat_Ok 19:30 Storm on the way for Ace More gateways / barracks on the way 20:30 Another Expansion on the way for Both players 21:30 Both players are Maxed Armies now being aggressive 22:00 Stalkers wait for vikings all zellots die Ace now on the run losing all his colossus
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Two more robos on the way for Ace
Planetary fortress at the fourth of Brat_Ok
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Really poor engagement by ace, doesn't matter that he had templar with storms, forcefields and +2 to bratok's +1, the stalkers just werent in the battle and everything but the stalkers get picked off.
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200 energy on BratOK's gold Orbital Command, that's kind of a shame...
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Ace has a bad movement path losing a lot of his stalkers
Armies now engaging 14:50
Brat_Ok over extends himself landing his Vikings then loosing the whole army 15:40
Expansions on the way for both players 17:20 Brat_Ok taking the gold base but is a orbital armour +2 on the way for Ace 19:00 Templar Archive on the way for Ace Ghost Academy on the way for Brat_Ok 19:30 Storm on the way for Ace More gateways / barracks on the way 20:30 Another Expansion on the way for Both players 21:30 Both players are Maxed Armies now being aggressive 22:00 Stalkers wait for vikings all zellots die Ace now on the run losing all his colossus 23:30 Two more robos on the way for Ace Planetary fortress at the fourth of Brat_Ok
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Starport on the way for ace
Taking potshots at brat_OK
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Ace, you were a BW progamer, why are you 1a'ing everything?
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Brat_Ok over extends himself landing his Vikings then loosing the whole army 15:40
Expansions on the way for both players 17:20 Brat_Ok taking the gold base but is a orbital armour +2 on the way for Ace 19:00 Templar Archive on the way for Ace Ghost Academy on the way for Brat_Ok 19:30 Storm on the way for Ace More gateways / barracks on the way 20:30 Another Expansion on the way for Both players 21:30 Both players are Maxed Armies now being aggressive 22:00 Stalkers wait for vikings all zellots die Ace now on the run losing all his colossus 23:30 Two more robos on the way for Ace Planetary fortress at the fourth of Brat_Ok 24:30 Starport on the way for ace Taking potshots at brat_OK
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Erm? fleet beacon on the way
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On June 18 2011 10:20 Anton K wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:13 stunny wrote: the commentators are really ANNOYING with their constant, nonstop, fluiding, rapidfire "comments".
Why not try, just try say few words full of sense, instead all that trashing words filling to the end of my brain.
just turned them off. enjoy the silence. The problem is moletrap screaming over the other guy wich creates chaos. There are so many other casters out there that are so much better than moletrap like: Catspyjamas, raelcun or even guest casters like IdrA, painuser etc. That's my opinion but I somehow feel like moletrap isn't loved by the majority of the community. It feels more as people are scared to see him buthurt. He really pissed me off yesterday when he kept saying MorroW is known for his baneling busts and almost saying that's all he can do.. Morrow has a unique ZvP that none else uses yet afaik (ling/bling infestor) and he clearly showed that he can play ZvT well in a standup macro game. I had to mute it as well. Moletrap is the worst caster in existence. Besides his annoying play by play, his voice is that of a 10 year old boys. I'm sorry if that comes across as flaming, but if you sound like a child, you're most likely not cut out for commentating. He constantly cuts off his co-caster, hogs up mic space, etc. It's pretty upsetting that they picked him to cast the playoffs... And also, what's up with the lack of 480p? Are they seriously trying to make people pay for 480p?
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On June 18 2011 10:35 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:34 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:33 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:33 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:32 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:31 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:31 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:30 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:29 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:28 Drazerk wrote: [quote]
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Expansions on the way for both players 17:20 Brat_Ok taking the gold base but is a orbital armour +2 on the way for Ace 19:00 Templar Archive on the way for Ace Ghost Academy on the way for Brat_Ok 19:30 Storm on the way for Ace More gateways / barracks on the way 20:30 Another Expansion on the way for Both players 21:30 Both players are Maxed Armies now being aggressive 22:00 Stalkers wait for vikings all zellots die Ace now on the run losing all his colossus 23:30 Two more robos on the way for Ace Planetary fortress at the fourth of Brat_Ok 24:30 Starport on the way for ace Taking potshots at brat_OK 26:00 Erm? fleet beacon on the way
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Ace harassing the fourth of ace on the high ground
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I dont understand.. so awesome play with that proxy pylon but so strange unit control in big engagements. Ace should win this despite donating a lot of units
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mothership! casters not recognizing -.-
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On June 18 2011 10:35 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:35 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:34 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:33 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:33 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:32 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:31 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:31 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:30 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:29 Drazerk wrote: [quote]
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Brat_Ok taking the gold base but is a orbital
armour +2 on the way for Ace 19:00 Templar Archive on the way for Ace Ghost Academy on the way for Brat_Ok 19:30 Storm on the way for Ace More gateways / barracks on the way 20:30 Another Expansion on the way for Both players 21:30 Both players are Maxed Armies now being aggressive 22:00 Stalkers wait for vikings all zellots die Ace now on the run losing all his colossus 23:30 Two more robos on the way for Ace Planetary fortress at the fourth of Brat_Ok 24:30 Starport on the way for ace Taking potshots at brat_OK 26:00 Erm? fleet beacon on the way 26:20 Ace harassing the fourth of ace on the high ground
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Mobius on the way for Brat_Ok
Still harassment at the Fourth
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On June 18 2011 10:36 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:35 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:35 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:34 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:33 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:33 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:32 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:31 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:31 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:30 Drazerk wrote: [quote]
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Templar Archive on the way for Ace
Ghost Academy on the way for Brat_Ok 19:30 Storm on the way for Ace More gateways / barracks on the way 20:30 Another Expansion on the way for Both players 21:30 Both players are Maxed Armies now being aggressive 22:00 Stalkers wait for vikings all zellots die Ace now on the run losing all his colossus 23:30 Two more robos on the way for Ace Planetary fortress at the fourth of Brat_Ok 24:30 Starport on the way for ace Taking potshots at brat_OK 26:00 Erm? fleet beacon on the way 26:20 Ace harassing the fourth of ace on the high ground 27:30 Mobius on the way for Brat_Ok Still harassment at the Fourth
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MOTHERSHIP
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bratok so mad at that pylon lol
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LOL WTF HAHA, bratok was tilting for a sec there :D
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On June 18 2011 10:37 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:36 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:35 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:35 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:34 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:33 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:33 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:32 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:31 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:31 Drazerk wrote: [quote]
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Storm on the way for Ace
More gateways / barracks on the way 20:30 Another Expansion on the way for Both players 21:30 Both players are Maxed Armies now being aggressive 22:00 Stalkers wait for vikings all zellots die Ace now on the run losing all his colossus 23:30 Two more robos on the way for Ace Planetary fortress at the fourth of Brat_Ok 24:30 Starport on the way for ace Taking potshots at brat_OK 26:00 Erm? fleet beacon on the way 26:20 Ace harassing the fourth of ace on the high ground 27:30 Mobius on the way for Brat_Ok Still harassment at the Fourth 28:00MOTHERSHIP
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Harassment at the fourth finally stopped
Brat_Ok has a huge army
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Casters didn't notice the mothership producing? roflol
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hahaha stalker harass was hilarous, now momma timez !!!!
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that mothership is gonna go down so quickly to the vikings
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On June 18 2011 10:37 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:37 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:36 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:35 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:35 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:34 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:33 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:33 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:32 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:31 Drazerk wrote: [quote]
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Another Expansion on the way for Both players 21:30 Both players are Maxed Armies now being aggressive 22:00 Stalkers wait for vikings all zellots die Ace now on the run losing all his colossus 23:30 Two more robos on the way for Ace Planetary fortress at the fourth of Brat_Ok 24:30 Starport on the way for ace Taking potshots at brat_OK 26:00 Erm? fleet beacon on the way 26:20 Ace harassing the fourth of ace on the high ground 27:30 Mobius on the way for Brat_Ok Still harassment at the Fourth 28:00MOTHERSHIP 28:30 Harassment at the fourth finally stopped Brat_Ok has a huge army
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On June 18 2011 10:39 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:37 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:37 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:36 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:35 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:35 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:34 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:33 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:33 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:32 Drazerk wrote: [quote]
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Both players are Maxed
Armies now being aggressive 22:00 Stalkers wait for vikings all zellots die Ace now on the run losing all his colossus 23:30 Two more robos on the way for Ace Planetary fortress at the fourth of Brat_Ok 24:30 Starport on the way for ace Taking potshots at brat_OK 26:00 Erm? fleet beacon on the way 26:20 Ace harassing the fourth of ace on the high ground 27:30 Mobius on the way for Brat_Ok Still harassment at the Fourth 28:00MOTHERSHIP 28:30 Harassment at the fourth finally stopped Brat_Ok has a huge army 31:00 More stalkers to the Fourth of Brat_Ok
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Nuke on the way
Brat_Ok killing the Fifth of Ace
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So much positional posturing going on, we're going to see mothership vs nuke.
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nuke and mothership, not bad lol
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Stalkers wait for vikings all zellots die
Ace now on the run losing all his colossus 23:30 Two more robos on the way for Ace Planetary fortress at the fourth of Brat_Ok 24:30 Starport on the way for ace Taking potshots at brat_OK 26:00 Erm? fleet beacon on the way 26:20 Ace harassing the fourth of ace on the high ground 27:30 Mobius on the way for Brat_Ok Still harassment at the Fourth 28:00MOTHERSHIP 28:30 Harassment at the fourth finally stopped Brat_Ok has a huge army 31:00 More stalkers to the Fourth of Brat_Ok 31:40 Nuke on the way Brat_Ok killing the Fifth of Ace
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On June 18 2011 10:40 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:39 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:39 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:37 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:37 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:36 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:35 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:35 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:34 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:33 Drazerk wrote: [quote]
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Two more robos on the way for Ace
Planetary fortress at the fourth of Brat_Ok 24:30 Starport on the way for ace Taking potshots at brat_OK 26:00 Erm? fleet beacon on the way 26:20 Ace harassing the fourth of ace on the high ground 27:30 Mobius on the way for Brat_Ok Still harassment at the Fourth 28:00MOTHERSHIP 28:30 Harassment at the fourth finally stopped Brat_Ok has a huge army 31:00 More stalkers to the Fourth of Brat_Ok 31:40 Nuke on the way Brat_Ok killing the Fifth of Ace 34:00 Armies engage mothership goes down
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Base trade situation now on the way
Gold base down for ace
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On June 18 2011 10:40 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:40 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:39 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:39 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:37 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:37 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:36 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:35 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:35 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:34 Drazerk wrote: [quote]
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Starport on the way for ace
Taking potshots at brat_OK 26:00 Erm? fleet beacon on the way 26:20 Ace harassing the fourth of ace on the high ground 27:30 Mobius on the way for Brat_Ok Still harassment at the Fourth 28:00MOTHERSHIP 28:30 Harassment at the fourth finally stopped Brat_Ok has a huge army 31:00 More stalkers to the Fourth of Brat_Ok 31:40 Nuke on the way Brat_Ok killing the Fifth of Ace 34:00 Armies engage mothership goes down 34:20 Base trade situation now on the way Gold base down for ace
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Zealots are warped in
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Wow that game was very good!! Too bad Brat_OK had to lose but well.
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Yeah, I missed the beginning of the game, but the ending seemed really sloppy...
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On June 18 2011 10:35 dangerjoe wrote: I dont understand.. so awesome play with that proxy pylon but so strange unit control in big engagements. Ace should win this despite donating a lot of units
People still underestimating the influence of the huge latency Koreans suffer?
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what a weird game... ace played both good and bad at the same time...
mauraders + ghost + vikings + medis SHOULD eat through stalkers + colossi + archons...
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On June 18 2011 10:41 Husnan wrote: Yeah, I missed the beginning of the game, but the ending seemed really sloppy...
Beginning was even sloppier.. Lets call it mindgames
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On June 18 2011 10:38 Daniel C wrote: Casters didn't notice the mothership producing? roflol
They didn't see the fleet beacon either. Ace put it down very quickly after he finished the starport. (I saw it!)
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Weird game lol.
Bratok lost so many minerals due to that one pylon, jeez.
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seems this lr thread says more about the game then the casters, i mean, mentioning a nuke in production hypes up its launch
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i cant say what was more terrible the game or the casters
there are so many GOOD CASTERS which are funny and have insight and these guys get the opportunity to cast a big tournament yay
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On June 18 2011 10:42 fant0m wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:38 Daniel C wrote: Casters didn't notice the mothership producing? roflol They didn't see the fleet beacon either. Ace put it down very quickly after he finished the starport. (I saw it!)
I also noticed it
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On June 18 2011 10:42 butchji wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:35 dangerjoe wrote: I dont understand.. so awesome play with that proxy pylon but so strange unit control in big engagements. Ace should win this despite donating a lot of units People still underestimating the influence of the huge latency Koreans suffer? Bratok is also a long way from the NA servers so explains for both.
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Game Three starting Soon on Shattered Temple
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On June 18 2011 10:42 MCMXVI wrote: what a weird game... ace played both good and bad at the same time...
mauraders + ghost + vikings + medis SHOULD eat through stalkers + colossi + archons...
Ace had a huge upgrade advantage and the ghosts did nothing.
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On June 18 2011 10:42 butchji wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:35 dangerjoe wrote: I dont understand.. so awesome play with that proxy pylon but so strange unit control in big engagements. Ace should win this despite donating a lot of units People still underestimating the influence of the huge latency Koreans suffer? I think a lot of people do, unfortunately.
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On June 18 2011 10:42 butchji wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:35 dangerjoe wrote: I dont understand.. so awesome play with that proxy pylon but so strange unit control in big engagements. Ace should win this despite donating a lot of units People still underestimating the influence of the huge latency Koreans suffer?
Move-commanding 6-8 stalkers into a bunch of marauders is not lag.. Even with lag A-moving stalkers would engage the enemy instead of keep walking. Sure some of it might have been lag, but that was a bad move command.
edit: and it almost lost ace the game, but some crutch FF's saved him
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On June 18 2011 10:43 Vimsey wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:42 butchji wrote:On June 18 2011 10:35 dangerjoe wrote: I dont understand.. so awesome play with that proxy pylon but so strange unit control in big engagements. Ace should win this despite donating a lot of units People still underestimating the influence of the huge latency Koreans suffer? Bratok is also a long way from the NA servers so explains for both.
Makes a much bigger difference for protoss.
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Why so little attention on these games?
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On June 18 2011 10:43 Drazerk wrote: Game Three starting Soon on Shattered Temple
Brat_Ok is spawning at the Top position
While at the right location is Ace
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Time to go watch PhoenixWerraRGN stream! (Yay for him getting a new team. He's been looking and practicing for forever.)
Much better than watching Moletrap bungle these casts at least.
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On June 18 2011 10:44 Mentalizor wrote: Why so little attention on these games?
People are probably saving themselfs for DreamHack
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On June 18 2011 10:44 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:43 Drazerk wrote: Game Three starting Soon on Shattered Temple Brat_Ok is spawning at the Top position While at the right location is Ace
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Gateway and barracks on the way
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On June 18 2011 10:45 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:44 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:43 Drazerk wrote: Game Three starting Soon on Shattered Temple Brat_Ok is spawning at the Top position While at the right location is Ace 1:40 Gateway and barracks on the way
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Gas on the way for Ace
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On June 18 2011 10:44 AndAgain wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:43 Vimsey wrote:On June 18 2011 10:42 butchji wrote:On June 18 2011 10:35 dangerjoe wrote: I dont understand.. so awesome play with that proxy pylon but so strange unit control in big engagements. Ace should win this despite donating a lot of units People still underestimating the influence of the huge latency Koreans suffer? Bratok is also a long way from the NA servers so explains for both. Makes a much bigger difference for protoss. Well I would agree with you since i play protoss but i think a few terrans might disagree with us...
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its freaking BRAT OK jesus..
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On June 18 2011 10:43 Vimsey wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:42 butchji wrote:On June 18 2011 10:35 dangerjoe wrote: I dont understand.. so awesome play with that proxy pylon but so strange unit control in big engagements. Ace should win this despite donating a lot of units People still underestimating the influence of the huge latency Koreans suffer? Bratok is also a long way from the NA servers so explains for both. Yes, they both weren't able to micro their units. Pretty terrible games so far.
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On June 18 2011 10:42 haxard wrote: great commentators!!
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell....
You kindda have me thinking: + Show Spoiler +
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On June 18 2011 10:45 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:45 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:44 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:43 Drazerk wrote: Game Three starting Soon on Shattered Temple Brat_Ok is spawning at the Top position While at the right location is Ace 1:40 Gateway and barracks on the way 2:00 Gas on the way for Ace
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Orbital and marine on the way for Brat_Ok
Cyber on the way for ace leaving Brat_Ok's base with his probe
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it bothers me how they have like 4 ways to pronounce "Bratok"
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On June 18 2011 10:46 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:45 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:45 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:44 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:43 Drazerk wrote: Game Three starting Soon on Shattered Temple Brat_Ok is spawning at the Top position While at the right location is Ace 1:40 Gateway and barracks on the way 2:00 Gas on the way for Ace 2:30 Orbital and marine on the way for Brat_Ok Cyber on the way for ace leaving Brat_Ok's base with his probe
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Command centre on the way for Brat_Ok
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On June 18 2011 10:45 Vimsey wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:44 AndAgain wrote:On June 18 2011 10:43 Vimsey wrote:On June 18 2011 10:42 butchji wrote:On June 18 2011 10:35 dangerjoe wrote: I dont understand.. so awesome play with that proxy pylon but so strange unit control in big engagements. Ace should win this despite donating a lot of units People still underestimating the influence of the huge latency Koreans suffer? Bratok is also a long way from the NA servers so explains for both. Makes a much bigger difference for protoss. Well I would agree with you since i play protoss but i think a few terrans might disagree with us...
Na, any reasonable person would agree. Forcefields, blink, and storms depend on timing much more than whatever terrans need to do.
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On June 18 2011 10:47 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:46 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:45 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:45 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:44 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:43 Drazerk wrote: Game Three starting Soon on Shattered Temple Brat_Ok is spawning at the Top position While at the right location is Ace 1:40 Gateway and barracks on the way 2:00 Gas on the way for Ace 2:30 Orbital and marine on the way for Brat_Ok Cyber on the way for ace leaving Brat_Ok's base with his probe 4:00 Command centre on the way for Brat_Ok
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Nexus on the way for Ace
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On June 18 2011 10:47 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:47 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:46 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:45 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:45 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:44 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:43 Drazerk wrote: Game Three starting Soon on Shattered Temple Brat_Ok is spawning at the Top position While at the right location is Ace 1:40 Gateway and barracks on the way 2:00 Gas on the way for Ace 2:30 Orbital and marine on the way for Brat_Ok Cyber on the way for ace leaving Brat_Ok's base with his probe 4:00 Command centre on the way for Brat_Ok 5:00 Nexus on the way for Ace
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Two more gateways on the way for Ace
Tech lab for Brat_Ok now getting stim
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On June 18 2011 10:48 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:47 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:47 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:46 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:45 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:45 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:44 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:43 Drazerk wrote: Game Three starting Soon on Shattered Temple Brat_Ok is spawning at the Top position While at the right location is Ace 1:40 Gateway and barracks on the way 2:00 Gas on the way for Ace 2:30 Orbital and marine on the way for Brat_Ok Cyber on the way for ace leaving Brat_Ok's base with his probe 4:00 Command centre on the way for Brat_Ok 5:00 Nexus on the way for Ace 5:40 Two more gateways on the way for Ace Tech lab for Brat_Ok now getting stim
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Five gateways out for Ace
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On June 18 2011 10:46 Laboof wrote: it bothers me how they have like 4 ways to pronounce "Bratok" Moletrap is actually saying it correctly :o wonders never cease
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On June 18 2011 10:49 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:48 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:47 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:47 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:46 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:45 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:45 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:44 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:43 Drazerk wrote: Game Three starting Soon on Shattered Temple Brat_Ok is spawning at the Top position While at the right location is Ace 1:40 Gateway and barracks on the way 2:00 Gas on the way for Ace 2:30 Orbital and marine on the way for Brat_Ok Cyber on the way for ace leaving Brat_Ok's base with his probe 4:00 Command centre on the way for Brat_Ok 5:00 Nexus on the way for Ace 5:40 Two more gateways on the way for Ace Tech lab for Brat_Ok now getting stim 6:30 Five gateways out for Ace
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Factory bio +1 on the way for Brat_Ok
Ace moving out
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motbot you failed! Lol, you are spoiling the results .
Does anyone else hear "Gretorp" instead of "Bratok" sometimes ? lol
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On June 18 2011 10:49 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:49 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:48 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:47 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:47 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:46 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:45 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:45 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:44 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:43 Drazerk wrote: Game Three starting Soon on Shattered Temple Brat_Ok is spawning at the Top position While at the right location is Ace 1:40 Gateway and barracks on the way 2:00 Gas on the way for Ace 2:30 Orbital and marine on the way for Brat_Ok Cyber on the way for ace leaving Brat_Ok's base with his probe 4:00 Command centre on the way for Brat_Ok 5:00 Nexus on the way for Ace 5:40 Two more gateways on the way for Ace Tech lab for Brat_Ok now getting stim 6:30 Five gateways out for Ace 7:20 Factory bio +1 on the way for Brat_Ok Ace moving out
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On June 18 2011 10:50 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:49 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:49 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:48 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:47 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:47 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:46 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:45 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:45 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:44 Drazerk wrote:[quote] Brat_Ok is spawning at the Top position While at the right location is Ace 1:40 Gateway and barracks on the way 2:00 Gas on the way for Ace 2:30 Orbital and marine on the way for Brat_Ok Cyber on the way for ace leaving Brat_Ok's base with his probe 4:00 Command centre on the way for Brat_Ok 5:00 Nexus on the way for Ace 5:40 Two more gateways on the way for Ace Tech lab for Brat_Ok now getting stim 6:30 Five gateways out for Ace 7:20 Factory bio +1 on the way for Brat_Ok Ace moving out 8:30 Armies engage in the open with great forcefields
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Bunker goes down sentries killing Scvs now going into the main
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Ace breaching the main now
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i wonder if brat ok saw the sentry count
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LOL mass sentry is so silly hahaha
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Just tuned in, thanks a lot for the live reports Drazerk
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On June 18 2011 10:51 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:50 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:49 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:49 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:48 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:47 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:47 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:46 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:45 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:45 Drazerk wrote: [quote]
1:40
Gateway and barracks on the way 2:00 Gas on the way for Ace 2:30 Orbital and marine on the way for Brat_Ok Cyber on the way for ace leaving Brat_Ok's base with his probe 4:00 Command centre on the way for Brat_Ok 5:00 Nexus on the way for Ace 5:40 Two more gateways on the way for Ace Tech lab for Brat_Ok now getting stim 6:30 Five gateways out for Ace 7:20 Factory bio +1 on the way for Brat_Ok Ace moving out 8:30 Armies engage in the open with great forcefields 9:10 Bunker goes down sentries killing Scvs now going into the main
10:00
Ace now picking off tech labs
Brat_Ok pulling off all Scvs
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1 bunker when he has no information about what p is doing :/
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ugh moletrap is so awful.
ACE SHOULD FALL BACK RIGHT NOW
brat_ok has no units vs 6 sentries 4 zealots and 2 stalkers
sigh
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So sad for BratOK, he should have won 2-0 in the first place and now he loses 2-1
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On June 18 2011 10:51 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:51 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:50 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:49 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:49 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:48 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:47 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:47 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:46 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 10:45 Drazerk wrote: [quote]
2:00
Gas on the way for Ace 2:30 Orbital and marine on the way for Brat_Ok Cyber on the way for ace leaving Brat_Ok's base with his probe 4:00 Command centre on the way for Brat_Ok 5:00 Nexus on the way for Ace 5:40 Two more gateways on the way for Ace Tech lab for Brat_Ok now getting stim 6:30 Five gateways out for Ace 7:20 Factory bio +1 on the way for Brat_Ok Ace moving out 8:30 Armies engage in the open with great forcefields 9:10 Bunker goes down sentries killing Scvs now going into the main 10:00 Ace now picking off tech labs Brat_Ok pulling off all Scvs
10:40
Brat_Ok has lost everything
Brat_Ok GGs and leaves the game
Ace wins the series 2-1
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On June 18 2011 10:51 obesemk wrote: 1 bunker when he has no information about what p is doing :/ well he had a turret in case of any invisible shenanigans
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Can I watch MorroW again now?
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Never really appreciated how much damage sentries en masse can do :p
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Great positioning and timing by Ace - literally 10 seconds before stim and +1 finished.
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On June 18 2011 10:51 destian wrote: ugh moletrap is so awful.
ACE SHOULD FALL BACK RIGHT NOW
brat_ok has no units vs 6 sentries 4 zealots and 2 stalkers
sigh
Yea, that was pretty hilarious.
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On June 18 2011 10:52 SuperStyle wrote:So sad for BratOK, he should have won 2-0 in the first place and now he loses 2-1
Just came to this thread to say the same thing... it's always dissappointing when something like that happens.
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On June 18 2011 10:51 destian wrote: ugh moletrap is so awful.
ACE SHOULD FALL BACK RIGHT NOW
brat_ok has no units vs 6 sentries 4 zealots and 2 stalkers
sigh Yea i thought that too...PULL BACK we are in danger of winning.
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Hasuobs vs Fenix should be very interesting. Ultra aggressive vs ultra defensive.
Edit: oh, nm.
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Koreans own white dudes I was thinking the exact same thing
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Bratok moved out at the wrong moment If he had just stayed back at his natural he could've defended pretty easily.
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This is the first time I've actually seen Diggity after all these years of listening to him, haha
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Who are these casters? I couldn't find them in any of the threads this week. Missed most of the Bratok Ace series :S
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Those forcefields and that flank by Ace were amazing, lol @ people QQing about that being easy.
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LOL Fenix ditches his playoff games? Come on man...
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Oh a walk over
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this is so unkucky for BRAT_OK, omg
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REALLY, walkovers in playoffs? sigh
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wtf not showing up for a playoff match...
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On June 18 2011 10:52 Drazerk wrote:Ok that's it for me tonight folks + Show Spoiler + TY for your effort. : )
EDIT: no info from fnatic about fenix? Fenix really improved throught the season, I was hoping to see him play tonight.
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On June 18 2011 10:53 NuKedUFirst wrote: Who are these casters? I couldn't find them in any of the threads this week. Missed most of the Bratok Ace series :S Diggity and moletrap
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Play all those weeks and walkover :/
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Come on, these no-shows >_< You guys seriously need to punish the players harder, it's getting ridiculous
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On June 18 2011 10:52 Maliris wrote: Never really appreciated how much damage sentries en masse can do :p They do the same damage as a probe or do you mean forcefields?
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wow u don't show up for a spot in the playoffs for thousands of $. ><
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PvP is pretty boring to watch to be honest, not sure which one to root for either.
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Ugh man how can Fenix not show up in playoffs lol
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On June 18 2011 10:52 Maliris wrote: Never really appreciated how much damage sentries en masse can do :p 8 Sentries have roughly has the same DPS as 2 Stimmed Marauders (assuming vs armored with +1armor or more)
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Wow, after playing all these weeks, WTF man
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something must have happened to not be able to make playoffs... he just lost his chance at big money there...
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wha-whaa-whaaaatt??? why would he even play in NASL then
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Man, that sucks. Surely something must of come up if you're willing to miss a playoff game.
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Lightweight!! goodnight my fellow brit...thanks for the updates.
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$100,000 Prize pool.
Don't show up for playoff.
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lol wtf walkover at playoff
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What's up with moletrap putting a headshave bet on a random set?
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On June 18 2011 10:52 Chainfire99 wrote: Koreans own white dudes
I guess you haven't seen Nada being raped by Morrow yesterday ?
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NASL needs to implement some kind of punishments for missing your games. This is pathetic by Fenix. Missing playoff games for a chance to win thousands of dollars. Gtfo this league.
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On June 18 2011 10:51 Nick_54 wrote: Just tuned in, thanks a lot for the live reports Drazerk
Drazerk is LR Bonjwa
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Wow, Fenix spent all this time for NASL and now he just quits.
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Well hopefully Fenix is alright I can't imagine him just forgetting or not showing up probably something bad happened, so hopefully he is fine.
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Walkover in the playoffs? WTF?
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On June 18 2011 10:54 Vimsey wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:52 Maliris wrote: Never really appreciated how much damage sentries en masse can do :p They do the same damage as a probe or do you mean forcefields? Well, I'm pretty sure their dps is higher than probes... but actually when I'm playing protoss I usually just disregard the damage sentries do unless it's against lings in early game. Here they were killing marauders/marines and bunkers because there was so many of them.
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Are you kidding me??? Fenix played so well all season
Seriously what the hell
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Fenix is not here, so we'll show you the same ad 10 times instead.
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Why the hell are so many people no showing in NASL. It's pretty frustrating. There are a lot of good players out there that would have taken their spot. If Fenix would have let them know he was going to not show incontrol could have taken his spot like DDE took TLO's... so dissapointing.
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i kinda like this combo of diggity and moletrap.
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Did they say why he didn't show up? Maybe he wouldn't have been able to attend the finals so he pulled out early to be manner?
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Should have brought in someone next up below Fenix who wasn't already in the playoffs to take his place. I'd gladly want to see a match rescheduled then to just not see any match at all. =(
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I hope NASL gives harsher punishments for no shows...
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So let me get this straight...you play for weeks in a league...actually amass a nice record...and then you fail to show up for the playoffs and are eliminated? Does Fenix not want a chance to compete for money? I don't understand. This guy considers himself a professional?
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Who doesn't show up for a PLAYOFF game......
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On June 18 2011 10:55 SkullZ9 wrote:I guess you haven't seen Nada being raped by Morrow yesterday ?
I guess you didn't know that Nada is a university student, waking up in the middle of the night, playing with lag, during finals week, check out nadas match history and you'll see how much he's been playing this week.
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On June 18 2011 10:55 Moonwrath wrote: NASL needs to implement some kind of punishments for missing your games. This is pathetic by Fenix. Missing playoff games for a chance to win thousands of dollars. Gtfo this league. Or maybe just relax their schedule and accommodate players better, I dont know of another tournament with as many problems.
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I wonder what happened to Fenix. I doubt he would just skip a chance to play in the playoffs. Maybe some family emergency or he was going to a tourney or something?
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On June 18 2011 10:56 Maliris wrote: I hope NASL gives harsher punishments for no shows...
I think the current punishment is forfeiting their $250 deposit.
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On June 18 2011 10:56 puzzl wrote: Did they say why he didn't show up? Maybe he wouldn't have been able to attend the finals so he pulled out early to be manner? To be manner? He signed a contract which says he will be available to be in the US for the finals should he get there.
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Fenix, lol, how can you miss a chance to go to a live event and win $50,000? Is he serious? These are the "western pros" you guys think we should not allow koreans to compete against?
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Hasuobs vs Ace g1 on taldarim altar
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Did they show Hasuobs vs fenix at all? I kinda watched NASL, but wasnt paying attention too much but it looks like they only showed ace vs bratok..
I could be wrong tho.
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On June 18 2011 10:55 Moonwrath wrote: NASL needs to implement some kind of punishments for missing your games. This is pathetic by Fenix. Missing playoff games for a chance to win thousands of dollars. Gtfo this league. Calm down bro, you don't know the circumstances behind it.
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why do both players looks like james bond henchmen?
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On June 18 2011 10:55 Maliris wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:54 Vimsey wrote:On June 18 2011 10:52 Maliris wrote: Never really appreciated how much damage sentries en masse can do :p They do the same damage as a probe or do you mean forcefields? Well, I'm pretty sure their dps is higher than probes... but actually when I'm playing protoss I usually just disregard the damage sentries do unless it's against lings in early game. Here they were killing marauders/marines and bunkers because there was so many of them. Pretty sure its the same since the beta nerf but they are ranged. Mass any unit in SC2 and it is pretty good generally.
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On June 18 2011 10:55 Moonwrath wrote: NASL needs to implement some kind of punishments for missing your games. This is pathetic by Fenix. Missing playoff games for a chance to win thousands of dollars. Gtfo this league.
One would think that forfeiting the chance as the prize pool after spending so much time in the group stages is punishment enough. Apparently not.
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On June 18 2011 10:57 doihy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:55 SkullZ9 wrote:On June 18 2011 10:52 Chainfire99 wrote: Koreans own white dudes I guess you haven't seen Nada being raped by Morrow yesterday ? I guess you didn't know that Nada is a university student, waking up in the middle of the night, playing with lag, during finals week, check out nadas match history and you'll see how much he's been playing this week. guess u didnt see bratok owning ace 2-0 few weeks ago
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Sentries so 1 less DPS than stalkers. A lot of them can kill anything as long as the sentries are out of range
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Calm down bro, you don't know the circumstances behind it. I have enough faith in NASL to say if it was a real issue they would have delayed the game.
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Northern Ireland2557 Posts
Quicker cyber core for hasu
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On June 18 2011 10:58 crabz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:57 doihy wrote:On June 18 2011 10:55 SkullZ9 wrote:On June 18 2011 10:52 Chainfire99 wrote: Koreans own white dudes I guess you haven't seen Nada being raped by Morrow yesterday ? I guess you didn't know that Nada is a university student, waking up in the middle of the night, playing with lag, during finals week, check out nadas match history and you'll see how much he's been playing this week. guess u didnt see bratok owning ace 2-0 few weeks ago Those games were pretty close
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On June 18 2011 10:59 Duravi wrote:I have enough faith in NASL to say if it was a real issue they would have delayed the game. You're kidding right? Painuser said they wouldn't let him reschedule his games at all.
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4 gate is the only build that works for pvp on this map wtf
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On June 18 2011 10:57 Moonwrath wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:56 puzzl wrote: Did they say why he didn't show up? Maybe he wouldn't have been able to attend the finals so he pulled out early to be manner? To be manner? He signed a contract which says he will be available to be in the US for the finals should he get there.
So if every member of his family was just killed in a horrible accident, fuck that, you have a video game to play?
Be serious man, we don't know the circumstances.
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And Fenix was having a bit of a resurgence...what a shame...Terran is sucking hard in the NASL playoffs... They need more Korean Terrans (Rainbow and Ensnare don't count).
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Ruhoh. This is a very good 4 gate map. could be trouble for ace.
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On June 18 2011 10:58 crabz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:57 doihy wrote:On June 18 2011 10:55 SkullZ9 wrote:On June 18 2011 10:52 Chainfire99 wrote: Koreans own white dudes I guess you haven't seen Nada being raped by Morrow yesterday ? I guess you didn't know that Nada is a university student, waking up in the middle of the night, playing with lag, during finals week, check out nadas match history and you'll see how much he's been playing this week. guess u didnt see bratok owning ace 2-0 few weeks ago
Yeah that's true, and I'm sure Naniwa and Thorzain will do great in Korea. Open your eyes guys, ok there is a little difference of skill between koreans and foreigners, but not that much, even pro koreans say that.
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On June 18 2011 10:58 crabz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:57 doihy wrote:On June 18 2011 10:55 SkullZ9 wrote:On June 18 2011 10:52 Chainfire99 wrote: Koreans own white dudes I guess you haven't seen Nada being raped by Morrow yesterday ? I guess you didn't know that Nada is a university student, waking up in the middle of the night, playing with lag, during finals week, check out nadas match history and you'll see how much he's been playing this week. guess u didnt see bratok owning ace 2-0 few weeks ago Well its nadas finals now so i imagine he isnt playing much.
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Northern Ireland2557 Posts
Proxy pylon going up at watchtower for hasu, ace throwing down twilight council
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On June 18 2011 10:54 Maliris wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:53 NuKedUFirst wrote: Who are these casters? I couldn't find them in any of the threads this week. Missed most of the Bratok Ace series :S Diggity and moletrap
Haha, I knew I heard their voices before but couldn't put a face on that voice, thanks! I enjoy their casts! I wish Fenix showed up.
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Hasuobs has stalker/zealot superiority in hasu's base
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Did Ace forget you have to 4gate on that map? haha
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Hasuuuuuuuuuuuu fighting =)
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Northern Ireland2557 Posts
one gateway becomes unpowered, ace supply blocked, ace gg's
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lol always. ALWAYS go for 4 gate on taldarim
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This reminded me how much i hate four gate pvp
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what a surprise you can't do anything but 4 gate on this map moletrap is so dumb -.-
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HasuObs going old-school 4-gate and taking it down! Nice denial of scouting by Hasu.
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Boooooooom, go finish him no Hasu !
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I'm actually pretty surprised Ace blindly went 3gate twilight council on taldarim :s
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man ace's reaction is slow
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On June 18 2011 10:59 Mailing wrote: Sentries so 1 less DPS than stalkers. A lot of them can kill anything as long as the sentries are out of range 1 less DPS than Stalker vs Light without the upfront burst damage of the Stalker (which allows it to pick off units, unlike the Sentry whose burst is equivalent to an SCV)
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I cant understand why a player like fenix (who have a good chance of winning the tournament) will not show to a 100k usd price money tournament?? This is so rare-.-
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Jeez don't the pro's KNOW you HAVE to 4 gate at tal darim?? I cant understand how idiotic some play at times... First naniwa at MLG vs MC getting humiliated by not 4 gating, now ace. How difficult is it to understand really?? And hasuobs didn't even do a good 4 gate build... I can't understand this..
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sick fake out hasu obs went Stalker first to fake out like he was teching
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I can't imagine how you can open with 3 gate twilight and survive vs 4 gate on any map :/
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On June 18 2011 11:03 JoeSchmoe wrote: man ace's reaction is slow
I hope you are not talking about lag .... Even with perfect latency, he has done a major strategic mistake ...
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Northern Ireland2557 Posts
G2 on Typhon peaks Hasuobs 1-0 Ace
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Hasuobs blue, top right vs Ace, red, bottom right
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On June 18 2011 11:04 Markwerf wrote: Jeez don't the pro's KNOW you HAVE to 4 gate at tal darim?? I cant understand how idiotic some play at times... First naniwa at MLG vs MC getting humiliated by not 4 gating, now ace. How difficult is it to understand really?? And hasuobs didn't even do a good 4 gate build... I can't understand this.. Pretty sure MC won PvP recently defending a 4gate on that map.
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On June 18 2011 11:04 foxmeep wrote: I can't imagine how you can open with 3 gate twilight and survive vs 4 gate on any map :/
Ramp.
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Moletrap hate people, and people hate him, so that's ok
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Northern Ireland2557 Posts
11gate for hasuobs, 12gate for ace
both scouting each other first after gateway
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Both players pooling their energy
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HOW CAN FENIX, a very good player DONT show up for a tournament with 100k usd price money?
This just dont make sense for me... don't you think its rare? I will love to read an expanation of that..
Omg, i just cant bealive... or maybe there is not 100k usd price money? Im not sure now... please some can explain it to me?
Reggards
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Northern Ireland2557 Posts
Zealot first for Ace, and a quicker second gas for Hasuobs. Both chronoboosting out warpgate research and stalker
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Northern Ireland2557 Posts
1gate robo for Hasuobs, Ace going for quite late 2nd and 3rd gateway and 2nd gas before teching
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Northern Ireland2557 Posts
3gate twilight council for Ace against hasuob's 3gate robo, with observer first
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HasuObs a viewer of the Day9 Daily. How boss mode!
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Northern Ireland2557 Posts
Hasuobs chronoing out an immortal for 2nd robo unit, ace going blink stalker
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änd he cancelled his observer for an immortal..."
"no it's because it finished
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Northern Ireland2557 Posts
Hasuobs only has one immortal, could be a dangerous timing if ace commits
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On June 18 2011 11:09 bellhop wrote: HasuObs a viewer of the Day9 Daily. How boss mode!
Where are you getting that from?
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Ace decides to contain Hasuobs at his ramp, with 2 sentries and mass blink stalker. Throws down a nexus meanwhile.
Hasuobs teching to robo bay after 2nd immortal, a sacrifical blink stalker scout slips by letting ace know whatsgoing on
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On June 18 2011 11:10 AndAgain wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:09 bellhop wrote: HasuObs a viewer of the Day9 Daily. How boss mode! Where are you getting that from?
A joking commentary on the build order he chose to open with. Day9 just previewed it as his latest daily titled "Liquid`Tyler's PvP". He probably doesn't watch the Daily, but it's a nice coincidence.
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Hasuobs cancels robo bay, puts down a twilight council, seems to be going for a mass blink stalker immortal one base all in. vs the 2 base immortal/stalker of Ace
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Why hasu is attacking so late and letting Ace expand alone ??
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HasuObs cancelled his Robotics Bay after it was scouted and went Twilight Council instead, how did the casters miss that?
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HasuObs waited way too long to engage
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On June 18 2011 11:11 Whynaut wrote: "Concavity"
My dentist warned me about these!
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Hasuobs goes for a bust, ace comes out ahead with a food advantage and econ advantage.
Game is pretty much over now, ace has more of everything atm.
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On June 18 2011 11:13 Alzadar wrote: HasuObs cancelled his Robotics Bay after it was scouted and went Twilight Council instead, how did the casters miss that?
They didn't, they mentioned it...
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Isn't it 50k for the winner of the NASL?
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apparently hasu lost because of superior ace.. "concavity"
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Sorry for shitty LRing, don't usually do this much :/
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So the casters notice stuff but don't mention it for like 5 minutes -_-
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2 immortals = that much of a difference when they live
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What's wrong with the word "concavity"?
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Seriously, Diggity? Can't they get a more professional SC2 caster?
User was warned for this post
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On June 18 2011 11:16 Maliris wrote: Sorry for shitty LRing, don't usually do this much :/ Im sure a lot of people appreciate it
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On June 18 2011 11:16 Maliris wrote: Sorry for shitty LRing, don't usually do this much :/
you're doing great
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On June 18 2011 11:15 Koshi wrote: Isn't it 50k for the winner of the NASL? I believe so, did they change it? Im just reading the LR on my phone not watching stream. Did they have new info?
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On June 18 2011 11:13 SkullZ9 wrote: Why hasu is attacking so late and letting Ace expand alone ??
Hasu was contained at his ramp. Ace even threw a FF before retreating - because of the scouting Stalker, he knew the maximum timing Hasu would get a colossus or blink to circunvent the FF, and used the window to get an economic lead. .
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On June 18 2011 11:17 Monoamine wrote: What's wrong with the word "concavity"? nothing
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Northern Ireland2557 Posts
Game 3 on Terminus RE, crossmap spawns - Hasuobs at 6 oclock and Ace at 3 oclock
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On June 18 2011 11:15 TheHova wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:13 Alzadar wrote: HasuObs cancelled his Robotics Bay after it was scouted and went Twilight Council instead, how did the casters miss that? They didn't, they mentioned it...
They mentioned it late.
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Northern Ireland2557 Posts
Hasuobs once again goes 11gate, as he has done in all 3 games. Ace 12gates, scouts his main for proxies with his probe then scouts after gateway
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meh not a great game from hasu. Going chargelot archon is a much safer way to break out from a contain imo, instead of going late blink. His choice of strat mirrors the opponents strategy but with a much later expo, just not going to work.
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lazy to search but what happend with the fenix vs hasu games? i left like 30 min on game 3 of ace vs brat and now is 1-1 on last match? :S
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Moletrap never played Zelda? For shame...
On June 18 2011 11:19 TheLovingone wrote: lazy to search but what happend with the fenix vs hasu games? i left like 30 min on game 3 of ace vs brat and now is 1-1 on last match? :S
Fenix didn't show up so it was a walkover.
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On June 18 2011 11:19 TheLovingone wrote: lazy to search but what happend with the fenix vs hasu games? i left like 30 min on game 3 of ace vs brat and now is 1-1 on last match? :S Walkover because Fenix didn't show up or so it appeared.
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Anyone else here got issues with Diggity's casting!?!? Jesus christ!
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Northern Ireland2557 Posts
Hasuobs goes for a quick 2nd gas before his cyber core even finishes, ace adding a 2nd gas a bit later.
1gate robo for both players - hasuobs' is a bit quicker though. both players adding a 2nd gateway
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What the...it's 1-1 O_O
OMG HasuObs!! gogogo
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Northern Ireland2557 Posts
both players getting an observer first, then an immortal before teching to robo bay
Mirror builds atm
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Northern Ireland2557 Posts
Both players now putting down a nexus - ace put down his nexus faster but has a few less probes somehow.
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Northern Ireland2557 Posts
Thermal lance on the way for both players.
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This can't be more even lol.
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Northern Ireland2557 Posts
Ace adds a fast 3rd and 4th gas and a forge, but he has a massive gas surplus atm and is still on one robo.
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Hasu focused the immortals with his own immortals, why >< Anyway, who is obsing for NASL ? Is it the casters ? (which would explain why ythe observer is still not very good after 3 months of everyday obsing)
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Ooh, Ace momentarily supply-blocked at 82
OMG Ace researching weapons though T___T
I always hate it when the other guy starts upgrades and the person I'm rooting for doesn't
But a second robo on the way for Hasu!! MASS colossus!!
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double stargate for ace, omg
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Hasuobs has 2 robo's atm, Ace is getting +1 and is still mining off 4 gas with one robo
Hasuobs throws down a 3rd nexus, but Ace brings 2 stargate transition, hiding it at the north main.
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I like diggity, but its pretty obvious he doesn't play a lot of SC2, and his commentary is off the mark today.
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OMFG Ace with double stargates T_____T
HasuObs.....ugh...please pull this out
Mass phoenix will rape Hasu's heavy-colossus play adfska;fj
ooh, but VRs coming out for Ace
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I hear Moletrap commentary. Can this be?
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Northern Ireland2557 Posts
Ace is pooling voidrays off 2 stargates, if hasuobs doesn't realise this hes just going to get rolled if he keeps massing collosus
+1 air weapons on the way for ace.
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Doesn't look good for Hasuobs Those voids are gonna wreck.
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On June 18 2011 11:27 CosmicSpiral wrote: I hear Moletrap commentary. Can this be? moletrap + diggity
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On June 18 2011 11:21 chikhan wrote: Anyone else here got issues with Diggity's casting!?!? Jesus christ! i agree with you, but i think MT is doing fine. Diggity sounds like he doesnt enjoy casting sc2.
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Ace is a fucking genious.
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Northern Ireland2557 Posts
Ace pushes ahead with his ground army feigning some aggression
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Omfg HasuObs still doesn't know what's coming? Though void rays.....come on, get mass stalkers or SOMETHING!!
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Northern Ireland2557 Posts
Hasuobs adding blink and stalkers now, but he only has 8 stalkers - seems Ace is going to go for a timing attack when Charge finishes
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Please push out stalkers... so many stalkers.... >.< HASU CMON!
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i feel like getting that many collosus is kinda pointless even if the enemy isn't getting void rays. unless you can really micro and maximize the aoe you should just get ground gateway army.
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Hasuobs knows...but he's still FUCKED >.<
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United States15275 Posts
Hasu just saw the void rays. He needs to kill his zealots and replace with stalkers.
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Northern Ireland2557 Posts
Hasuobs' observer finds the stargates and voidrays! But he already has 200/200 lol
I think ace is going to push when he gets 200/200
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wtf ace not pushing -.-. his opponent had 3 bases for ages.
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i think hasu's expansion was a bait
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Gah, HasuObs is already maxed, so that's his advantage, and those 9 colossus will be absolute necessarily a;kdsfjdlskj
HASU SEES THE VOIDRAYS, and Ace is beginning to attack with them!!
It'll come down to Hasu's focus-fire on VRs with blink stalkers a;lksdfasf
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kill two coli and make even more stalk
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They've completely missed the double forge the entire game -.-
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YES!! HASU WITH +2 ATK, +2 SHIELD ALMOST +3 ATTACK
GOGOGOGO
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now diggity realises hasu has double forge lol
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LOL
ace so not winning this
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HASU DESTROYS ACE'S GROUND ARMY BUT THE VOID RAYS ARE ALIVE!!
Hasu is pushing Ace back!!!
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Nicely played hasu, GOGOGO HASU§§§
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hasu's got this, ace really didn't target correctly.
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Come on Hasu I want you to do this. I WANT IT. GIVE IT TO ME.
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YES! So nice
GO HASU!!! More stalkers!
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Northern Ireland2557 Posts
Huge battle occurs outside hasu's 4th, hasu has a massive collosus advantage now.
Ace has a 4th and 5th but Hasu can easily mass produce stalkers now and has a massive ground army advantage, and has 3-3 upgrades vs 2-1 of ace
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HasuObs has got this!!
4th base up, about to get 3-3 ground up grades (that was armor my bad, not shields)
Yes!!!
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Go hasu push now ! Maxed to 164
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just kill him hasu <cheer> =)
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gg ace shoulda hit the timing or went pheonix
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Anyone else getting a bunch of lag?
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Northern Ireland2557 Posts
Hasuobs is maxed again with voidray, collosus, stalker, archon 3-3.
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Hasu ready to transition to archons now YES!!
3-3 archons lol (10 hp )
Hasu expands to 11 o'clock position again
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lol wtf are these casters smoking? voidrays SUCK in pvp period.
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i dont see anything try micro this lol..
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HasuObs kills almost all of Ace's ground army, but the void rays are alive, only has 3 colossi now
He has the econ advantage, though! CMON
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Well I'll be, I thought I would never see Archons vs Void Rays in a pro match. I thought their buff to Massive wouldn't really be a nerf, but in this case...
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immortal switch by ace, great game.
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this is like a pvp metagame explosion
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oops maybe i could be wrong lolol ok nvm lol now its over haha
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The engagement at Ace's 3rd was one of the worst I've ever seen =/
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Man... that battle at the natural Voids rays/colossus/stalkers/archons = I can't tell wtf is going on.
Too much shiny.
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after every fight they're even in supplies, what the hell, it looks like the same player at both sides
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archons should seal this for hasu
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Show us the harass ffs -.-
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Northern Ireland2557 Posts
Hasuobs takes a surprising amount of damage in that last engagement, but hasuobs econ from his 5 base is kicking in
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HasuObs, just GO KILL HIM!
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I think Ace would have won if he pushed at ~6 voids, now he is dead.
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On June 18 2011 11:34 Icekommander wrote: Anyone else getting a bunch of lag? Yep.
Oddly enough, only when there's an engagement :/
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HasuObs has this EASILY!!
Massive advantage right now, deathball army killing the nat!
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ace lost due to the cost inefficiency of voidrays gg hasu <3
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Lol mass colossi > mass void rays
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HASUUUU!!! In a SO great PvP! congratulations!!!
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Congratz HasuObs
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Wow good play by HasuObs to take out Ace!
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What in God's name was Ace doing with his money? Hasu's supply was skyrocketing at the end and Ace's was staying around 140... and his money was so low. Seriously... he should have been warping in more units like mad.
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HASUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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BAMMMM White dude owned korean !
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yep, the north american starleague
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Very well played by Hasu, very intelligent player.
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Northern Ireland2557 Posts
Hasuobs crushing ace's main, Ace prolonging the game in protest with fantasy style gg timing
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On June 18 2011 11:37 brentsen wrote: I think Ace would have won if he pushed at ~6 voids, now he is dead.
Agreed! Very well played by Hasu regardless.
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Northern Ireland2557 Posts
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Ah, Ace GGs!!
HasuObs whoooo!!!
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Damn, didn't see that coming.
GG Hasu. Big Congratz.
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Aaaah now I feel bad for Ace. He must've really wanted that, he didn't wanna admit it was over.
Must concentrate on being happy for Hasu!
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Northern Ireland2557 Posts
Quite strange game tbh, I thought ace had a build order win after he started pooling all those voids
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This is proof NASL needs a wild card.
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On June 18 2011 11:37 brentsen wrote: I think Ace would have won if he pushed at ~6 voids, now he is dead. yea i dont think so even then
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That was actually a pretty good series! People always expect PvP to be boring but that was pretty entertaining :D
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say bye bye to hair moletrap
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Looks like someone's shaving their head...
EDIT: Ninjaed by a few seconds - figures
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Fucking Awesome PvP, not gonna lie. 9 fucking collosi versus void rays!
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HasuObs is an absolute BEAST!!
SO good!!
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Fuck yeah, Hasu!
I actually enjoyed that series, despite it being PvP. Awesome stuff.
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Grats to Hasu, but I really don't like this NASL system. A 7-2 player vs what a 5-4, 4-5?
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Looking back, going for Voidrays was a great idea.
But the timing was too late for Ace.
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On June 18 2011 11:39 ZionsWrath wrote: This is proof NASL needs a wild card. These playoffs and the open tournament are the wild cards.
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On June 18 2011 11:38 neoenigma wrote: What in God's name was Ace doing with his money? Hasu's supply was skyrocketing at the end and Ace's was staying around 140... and his money was so low. Seriously... he should have been warping in more units like mad.
Voidrays are expensive and take a long time to build.
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Gosu x2 observer scouting the VRs just in time saves the game for hasu.
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On June 18 2011 11:39 Vimsey wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:37 brentsen wrote: I think Ace would have won if he pushed at ~6 voids, now he is dead. yea i dont think so even then
When ace was at ~6 voids, hasuobs only had about 7 stalkers. He was pumping out colossus from 2 robos and that really hurt his stalker count.
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On June 18 2011 11:39 Vimsey wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:37 brentsen wrote: I think Ace would have won if he pushed at ~6 voids, now he is dead. yea i dont think so even then
I think he could have. Hasu only had a few stalkers at that point.
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Hasu do good, Ace do normal, WP Hasu
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On June 18 2011 11:39 1Eris1 wrote: Grats to Hasu, but I really don't like this NASL system. A 7-2 player vs what a 5-4, 4-5?
This happens in other sports all the time when there's a play off system. It adds another element and gives the other players something to fight for. I like it.
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Interview with HasuObs!! :D
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holy shit that was intense
PvP is hilariously epic at times lol
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*sigh*
Wish the NASL bracket was 32 players in double elimination
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So tired of hearing Hasu as underdog... how many people must he beat to be considered as the beast he is, instead of beeing an "upset" every...fucking...time...
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That was a money scout of those Void Rays though by the sent-around Obs. Hasu doesn't do that and Ace would have taken that. Scouting really important!
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On June 18 2011 11:39 1Eris1 wrote: Grats to Hasu, but I really don't like this NASL system. A 7-2 player vs what a 5-4, 4-5? Its called the playoffs. Seahawks were 7-9 in the regular season, but dominated the #3 seed Saints in NFL playoffs.
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On June 18 2011 11:40 GreatHate wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:38 neoenigma wrote: What in God's name was Ace doing with his money? Hasu's supply was skyrocketing at the end and Ace's was staying around 140... and his money was so low. Seriously... he should have been warping in more units like mad. Voidrays are expensive and take a long time to build. also hasu had blink first, charge first was waaaay ahead in armour and weapons upgrades.
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That was such a fun game to watch! Who would have thought PvP could be so entertaining?
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That was some epic scouting. What a match.
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Moletrap looks so bad on NASL. I wonder how much make-up they used on him at GomTV.
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On June 18 2011 11:39 1Eris1 wrote: Grats to Hasu, but I really don't like this NASL system. A 7-2 player vs what a 5-4, 4-5?
Not to mention one of those Ace wins was against Hasu. Now they're tied.
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Northern Ireland2557 Posts
Ace's mistake was waiting too long with those voidrays, he should have cut probes and went for a 2 base timing rush when his +1 air and +1 ground weapons was finished. He got too greedy with the voidrays it seems, and Hasuobs was pre-emptively adding stalkers and blink in before he had even scouted the 2 stargates, probably assuming something was up
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On June 18 2011 11:40 tomatriedes wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:39 Vimsey wrote:On June 18 2011 11:37 brentsen wrote: I think Ace would have won if he pushed at ~6 voids, now he is dead. yea i dont think so even then I think he could have. Hasu only had a few stalkers at that point. they were blink stalkers and one round of stalkers would have been enough, you have to charge the voids for them to be any good.
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On June 18 2011 11:41 Vimsey wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:40 GreatHate wrote:On June 18 2011 11:38 neoenigma wrote: What in God's name was Ace doing with his money? Hasu's supply was skyrocketing at the end and Ace's was staying around 140... and his money was so low. Seriously... he should have been warping in more units like mad. Voidrays are expensive and take a long time to build. also hasu had blink first, charge first was waaaay ahead in armour and weapons upgrades.
iirc Ace's macro will stutter at times, right?
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On June 18 2011 11:41 Rococo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:39 1Eris1 wrote: Grats to Hasu, but I really don't like this NASL system. A 7-2 player vs what a 5-4, 4-5? Not to mention one of those Ace wins was against Hasu. Now they're tied.
Yeah, we need extended series.
NOT
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On June 18 2011 11:40 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:39 ZionsWrath wrote: This is proof NASL needs a wild card. These playoffs and the open tournament are the wild cards.
It is pretty clear you don't know what a wild card is.
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The Germans are coming! I think that Germany is the new Sweden in the starcraft universe, so many talented players.
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On June 18 2011 11:39 1Eris1 wrote: Grats to Hasu, but I really don't like this NASL system. A 7-2 player vs what a 5-4, 4-5?
Well the system helps to ensure that more qualified players don't get knocked out from being in tough divisions. If Hasu had a worse record and was still able to beat Ace, then that just suggests that Hasu had a harder division than Ace did.
Edit: Just realized they were in the same division! Well nevermind! /shrug
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Aw what a let down. No interview.
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Awwww no interview
Whatever, awesome game!
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Great game by Hasu, his colossus retention was far more crucial than Ace's void retention. He kept chewing through expensive ground units at a faster rate and that cost efficiency won him the game I believe.
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On June 18 2011 11:41 CallmeMuppet wrote: So tired of hearing Hasu as underdog... how many people must he beat to be considered as the beast he is, instead of beeing an "upset" every...fucking...time...
LOL so true. He won UGC, placed top 4 at TSL and won several online tournaments.
But he's still called an underdog, ridiculous.
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moletrap ;D <3
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CONGRATS HASU!
What a great game, dude!
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Yeah "wait for the interview of hasuobs" Send 5 ads "oops, no interview, sorry cya" ><
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On June 18 2011 11:40 TheHova wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:39 1Eris1 wrote: Grats to Hasu, but I really don't like this NASL system. A 7-2 player vs what a 5-4, 4-5? This happens in other sports all the time when there's a play off system. It adds another element and gives the other players something to fight for. I like it. still... it basically says if you don't place top 2 in your group your score doesn't matter as long as you're not in the bottom 32. Usually the higher ranked teams get byes or something in the playoffs but ironically enough fenix didn't show up and hasuobs got the bye.
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Northern Ireland2557 Posts
No interview
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They could have edited out the bits about Hasu vs Fenix and the Hasu interview.
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Wow, you'd think with having your team leader as one of the main guys running NASL, he'd know what time his play off match is lol.
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If Fenix thought it was EST time, then he would have shown up EARLY and gotten message that it isn't for another 3 hours, not LATE. Clearly Fenix is lying and just ducking Hasu.
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On June 18 2011 11:42 ZionsWrath wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:40 jmbthirteen wrote:On June 18 2011 11:39 ZionsWrath wrote: This is proof NASL needs a wild card. These playoffs and the open tournament are the wild cards. It is pretty clear you don't know what a wild card is.
I do know what a wild card is. You can't draw a straight comparison from the NFL or MLB style to NASL because of how the finals are set up. The finals for NASL is more like the playoffs when the last game is like the Super Bowl/World Series. Then these playoffs we are watching right now are like the wild cards, giving players a chance to get to the finals.
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Northern Ireland2557 Posts
Still can't believe fenix didn't even show up for his playoff match... real unprofessional
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Wow. They told Fenix the wrong timezone? -.-
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On June 18 2011 11:41 Rococo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:39 1Eris1 wrote: Grats to Hasu, but I really don't like this NASL system. A 7-2 player vs what a 5-4, 4-5? Not to mention one of those Ace wins was against Hasu. Now they're tied.
You're not arguing for...extended series...are you?
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didnt the caster want to shave his hair when ace isnt winning?
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On June 18 2011 11:45 Maliris wrote: Still can't believe fenix didn't even show up for his playoff match... real unprofessional
Yeah it's totally his fault his team manager told him the wrong time
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On June 18 2011 11:45 The KY wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:41 Rococo wrote:On June 18 2011 11:39 1Eris1 wrote: Grats to Hasu, but I really don't like this NASL system. A 7-2 player vs what a 5-4, 4-5? Not to mention one of those Ace wins was against Hasu. Now they're tied. You're not arguing for...extended series...are you? wash your mouth out!!
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wow fenix must be really upset....
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On June 18 2011 11:42 archonOOid wrote: The Germans are coming! I think that Germany is the new Sweden in the starcraft universe, so many talented players.
Idk. Sweden is still undoubtly at the top.
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On June 18 2011 11:43 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:40 TheHova wrote:On June 18 2011 11:39 1Eris1 wrote: Grats to Hasu, but I really don't like this NASL system. A 7-2 player vs what a 5-4, 4-5? This happens in other sports all the time when there's a play off system. It adds another element and gives the other players something to fight for. I like it. still... it basically says if you don't place top 2 in your group your score doesn't matter as long as you're not in the bottom 32. Usually the higher ranked teams get byes or something in the playoffs but ironically enough fenix didn't show up and hasuobs got the bye.
It's ultimately because the groups were arbitrarily set up. It kinda taints all the results for me (and anyone who dislikes randomness.)
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On June 18 2011 11:44 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:42 ZionsWrath wrote:On June 18 2011 11:40 jmbthirteen wrote:On June 18 2011 11:39 ZionsWrath wrote: This is proof NASL needs a wild card. These playoffs and the open tournament are the wild cards. It is pretty clear you don't know what a wild card is. I do know what a wild card is. You can't draw a straight comparison from the NFL or MLB style to NASL because of how the finals are set up. The finals for NASL is more like the playoffs when the last game is like the Super Bowl/World Series. Then these playoffs we are watching right now are like the wild cards, giving players a chance to get to the finals.
I think he means an alternate that can step-in and replace a player that doesn't show up.
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On June 18 2011 11:43 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:40 TheHova wrote:On June 18 2011 11:39 1Eris1 wrote: Grats to Hasu, but I really don't like this NASL system. A 7-2 player vs what a 5-4, 4-5? This happens in other sports all the time when there's a play off system. It adds another element and gives the other players something to fight for. I like it. still... it basically says if you don't place top 2 in your group your score doesn't matter as long as you're not in the bottom 32. Usually the higher ranked teams get byes or something in the playoffs but ironically enough fenix didn't show up and hasuobs got the bye.
They usually get seeds, and play the lower seeded players who have the worse record. In theory making them have an easier run in. The talent pool is so big though in Starcraft II in terms of depth that the main objective is just qualifying. It's pretty much why people like July and SeleCT messed around in their final matches too. The seed doesn't really mean much because you're always going to be playing a top player no matter what seed you get.
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On June 18 2011 11:45 1Eris1 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:45 Maliris wrote: Still can't believe fenix didn't even show up for his playoff match... real unprofessional Yeah it's totally his fault his team manager told him the wrong time Source?
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Wait, so Fenix is completely out of the NASL just because he missed one/two series?
Sucks D:
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On June 18 2011 11:45 The KY wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:41 Rococo wrote:On June 18 2011 11:39 1Eris1 wrote: Grats to Hasu, but I really don't like this NASL system. A 7-2 player vs what a 5-4, 4-5? Not to mention one of those Ace wins was against Hasu. Now they're tied. You're not arguing for...extended series...are you?
You dirty dirty man! :p
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On June 18 2011 11:46 nvs. wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:44 jmbthirteen wrote:On June 18 2011 11:42 ZionsWrath wrote:On June 18 2011 11:40 jmbthirteen wrote:On June 18 2011 11:39 ZionsWrath wrote: This is proof NASL needs a wild card. These playoffs and the open tournament are the wild cards. It is pretty clear you don't know what a wild card is. I do know what a wild card is. You can't draw a straight comparison from the NFL or MLB style to NASL because of how the finals are set up. The finals for NASL is more like the playoffs when the last game is like the Super Bowl/World Series. Then these playoffs we are watching right now are like the wild cards, giving players a chance to get to the finals. I think he means an alternate that can step-in and replace a player that doesn't show up.
Well if thats what he means, then he doesn't know what a wild card is
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On June 18 2011 11:47 Maliris wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:45 1Eris1 wrote:On June 18 2011 11:45 Maliris wrote: Still can't believe fenix didn't even show up for his playoff match... real unprofessional Yeah it's totally his fault his team manager told him the wrong time Source?
They just said it on the cast....
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Was there any anouncement that incontrol would stop commentating NASL? he just disappeared :s
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On June 18 2011 11:42 Vimsey wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:40 tomatriedes wrote:On June 18 2011 11:39 Vimsey wrote:On June 18 2011 11:37 brentsen wrote: I think Ace would have won if he pushed at ~6 voids, now he is dead. yea i dont think so even then I think he could have. Hasu only had a few stalkers at that point. they were blink stalkers and one round of stalkers would have been enough, you have to charge the voids for them to be any good.
Voids are still good uncharged, especially when you outnumber the stalker count with your voids. Also, with armies that big you will never see a pro use their APM to (individually) blink micro their stalkers when the positioning of the rest of their army is much more important. Ace missed his timing, he definitely could have won. Not to take anything away from HasuObs though he still played really solid and deserved the W.
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On June 18 2011 11:48 Z3kk wrote: Wait, so Fenix is completely out of the NASL just because he missed one/two series?
He missed the playoff series so he got a loss and now he's out.
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It wasn't his team manager, Fenix claims he thought games were EST when they were actualy PST. But that excuse is flawed because he would have shown up early for his games and realized they weren't for another 3 hours if he thought EST. So clearly he is ducking Hasuobs like how Catz ducked July at MLG
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On June 18 2011 11:45 The KY wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:41 Rococo wrote:On June 18 2011 11:39 1Eris1 wrote: Grats to Hasu, but I really don't like this NASL system. A 7-2 player vs what a 5-4, 4-5? Not to mention one of those Ace wins was against Hasu. Now they're tied. You're not arguing for...extended series...are you?
Ace has a better record in the NASL and is 3-3 with Hasu right now. I'd prefer a second best of 3.
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On June 18 2011 11:48 AndAgain wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:48 Z3kk wrote: Wait, so Fenix is completely out of the NASL just because he missed one/two series? He missed the playoff series so he got a loss and now he's out.
Right, I completely understand that; it just sounded really tough on him, though it's the rules and obviously it's what should have happened.
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hold on a minute Fenix is in fanatic whos manager is Xeris who is a caster for NASL...........and they got the wrong time?!
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On June 18 2011 11:49 fartdra wrote: It wasn't his team manager, Fenix claims he thought games were EST when they were actualy PST. But that excuse is flawed because he would have shown up early for his games and realized they weren't for another 3 hours if he thought EST. So clearly he is ducking Hasuobs like how Catz ducked July at MLG
Why the hell would he dodge HasuObs? Even if Fenix cheesed three games in a row he'd have a better chance of making the finals than not showing up. What would he gain from dodging HasuObs?
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On June 18 2011 11:48 Nightfly wrote: Was there any anouncement that incontrol would stop commentating NASL? he just disappeared :s He is in Vegas because Miss USA is going on this week.
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On June 18 2011 11:50 Z3kk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:48 AndAgain wrote:On June 18 2011 11:48 Z3kk wrote: Wait, so Fenix is completely out of the NASL just because he missed one/two series? He missed the playoff series so he got a loss and now he's out. Right, I completely understand that; it just sounded really tough on him, though it's the rules and obviously it's what should have happened.
Yeah it sucks, but there's not a lot they could do really. Because it delays other series as well and i think they are on a pretty tight schedule. I'm just amazed how he could get it wrong when his leader is the guy running the entire thing.
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On June 18 2011 11:51 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:49 fartdra wrote: It wasn't his team manager, Fenix claims he thought games were EST when they were actualy PST. But that excuse is flawed because he would have shown up early for his games and realized they weren't for another 3 hours if he thought EST. So clearly he is ducking Hasuobs like how Catz ducked July at MLG Why the hell would he dodge HasuObs? Even if Fenix cheesed three games in a row he'd have a better chance of making the finals than not showing up. What would he gain from dodging HasuObs?
If you don't show up for a match and have a fake excuse that doesn't make any logic then you ducking brah
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On June 18 2011 11:51 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:48 Nightfly wrote: Was there any anouncement that incontrol would stop commentating NASL? he just disappeared :s He is in Vegas because Miss USA is going on this week.
he's been in vegas the last 5-6 weeks?
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Northern Ireland2557 Posts
Man.. this is so shitty for Fenix...
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On June 18 2011 11:49 fartdra wrote: It wasn't his team manager, Fenix claims he thought games were EST when they were actualy PST. But that excuse is flawed because he would have shown up early for his games and realized they weren't for another 3 hours if he thought EST. So clearly he is ducking Hasuobs like how Catz ducked July at MLG
isnt it more logical that someone heard it wrong and that he thought it was PST instead of EST?
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On June 18 2011 11:52 Nightfly wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:51 jmbthirteen wrote:On June 18 2011 11:48 Nightfly wrote: Was there any anouncement that incontrol would stop commentating NASL? he just disappeared :s He is in Vegas because Miss USA is going on this week. he's been in vegas the last 5-6 weeks? you cant hurry a woman.
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On June 18 2011 11:46 AndAgain wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:43 Itsmedudeman wrote:On June 18 2011 11:40 TheHova wrote:On June 18 2011 11:39 1Eris1 wrote: Grats to Hasu, but I really don't like this NASL system. A 7-2 player vs what a 5-4, 4-5? This happens in other sports all the time when there's a play off system. It adds another element and gives the other players something to fight for. I like it. still... it basically says if you don't place top 2 in your group your score doesn't matter as long as you're not in the bottom 32. Usually the higher ranked teams get byes or something in the playoffs but ironically enough fenix didn't show up and hasuobs got the bye. It's ultimately because the groups were arbitrarily set up. It kinda taints all the results for me (and anyone who dislikes randomness.)
How were they arbitrarily set? The groups were definitely not random. They were specifically set with 2 Koreans in each group, equal race distribution etc. This is the first NASL so they didn't have any kind of ranking that they could seed guys with. So they organized as best they could.
And every step they've taken, with tie-breakers and playoff seeding, they're setting everything up for future seasons where groups/brackets/seedings will be based on past performance. What more do you want them to do?
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On June 18 2011 11:52 Nightfly wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:51 jmbthirteen wrote:On June 18 2011 11:48 Nightfly wrote: Was there any anouncement that incontrol would stop commentating NASL? he just disappeared :s He is in Vegas because Miss USA is going on this week. he's been in vegas the last 5-6 weeks?
Well he had the EG thing where he was flying from place to place for a week or so and his flight got cancelled and a bunch of other stuff. I just think he's been really busy tbh.
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On June 18 2011 11:53 Nightfly wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:49 fartdra wrote: It wasn't his team manager, Fenix claims he thought games were EST when they were actualy PST. But that excuse is flawed because he would have shown up early for his games and realized they weren't for another 3 hours if he thought EST. So clearly he is ducking Hasuobs like how Catz ducked July at MLG isnt it more logical that someone heard it wrong and that he thought it was PST instead of EST?
except the games were actually held at PST not EST, so no not in this case.
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On June 18 2011 11:52 fartdra wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:51 Azarkon wrote:On June 18 2011 11:49 fartdra wrote: It wasn't his team manager, Fenix claims he thought games were EST when they were actualy PST. But that excuse is flawed because he would have shown up early for his games and realized they weren't for another 3 hours if he thought EST. So clearly he is ducking Hasuobs like how Catz ducked July at MLG Why the hell would he dodge HasuObs? Even if Fenix cheesed three games in a row he'd have a better chance of making the finals than not showing up. What would he gain from dodging HasuObs? If you don't show up for a match and have a fake excuse that doesn't make any logic then you ducking brah Ducking/Dodging implies he is trying to get out of playing Hasu, but still continuing on in the tournament. But now he is out. You don't duck/dodge to get kicked out of the tournament.
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On June 18 2011 11:53 cablesc wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:46 AndAgain wrote:On June 18 2011 11:43 Itsmedudeman wrote:On June 18 2011 11:40 TheHova wrote:On June 18 2011 11:39 1Eris1 wrote: Grats to Hasu, but I really don't like this NASL system. A 7-2 player vs what a 5-4, 4-5? This happens in other sports all the time when there's a play off system. It adds another element and gives the other players something to fight for. I like it. still... it basically says if you don't place top 2 in your group your score doesn't matter as long as you're not in the bottom 32. Usually the higher ranked teams get byes or something in the playoffs but ironically enough fenix didn't show up and hasuobs got the bye. It's ultimately because the groups were arbitrarily set up. It kinda taints all the results for me (and anyone who dislikes randomness.) How were they arbitrarily set? The groups were definitely not random. They were specifically set with 2 Koreans in each group, equal race distribution etc. This is the first NASL so they didn't have any kind of ranking that they could seed guys with. So they organized as best they could. And every step they've taken, with tie-breakers and playoff seeding, they're setting everything up for future seasons where groups/brackets/seedings will be based on past performance. What more do you want them to do?
Which Koreans were in which group? Which player of which race was in each group? It's still arbitrary. Ideally, you'd have everyone play everyone with one big group standing. It may be impractical, bit it's ideal nonetheless.
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On June 18 2011 11:53 cablesc wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:46 AndAgain wrote:On June 18 2011 11:43 Itsmedudeman wrote:On June 18 2011 11:40 TheHova wrote:On June 18 2011 11:39 1Eris1 wrote: Grats to Hasu, but I really don't like this NASL system. A 7-2 player vs what a 5-4, 4-5? This happens in other sports all the time when there's a play off system. It adds another element and gives the other players something to fight for. I like it. still... it basically says if you don't place top 2 in your group your score doesn't matter as long as you're not in the bottom 32. Usually the higher ranked teams get byes or something in the playoffs but ironically enough fenix didn't show up and hasuobs got the bye. It's ultimately because the groups were arbitrarily set up. It kinda taints all the results for me (and anyone who dislikes randomness.) How were they arbitrarily set? The groups were definitely not random. They were specifically set with 2 Koreans in each group, equal race distribution etc. This is the first NASL so they didn't have any kind of ranking that they could seed guys with. So they organized as best they could. And every step they've taken, with tie-breakers and playoff seeding, they're setting everything up for future seasons where groups/brackets/seedings will be based on past performance. What more do you want them to do? It's what arbitrary means :p
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On June 18 2011 11:57 AndAgain wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:53 cablesc wrote:On June 18 2011 11:46 AndAgain wrote:On June 18 2011 11:43 Itsmedudeman wrote:On June 18 2011 11:40 TheHova wrote:On June 18 2011 11:39 1Eris1 wrote: Grats to Hasu, but I really don't like this NASL system. A 7-2 player vs what a 5-4, 4-5? This happens in other sports all the time when there's a play off system. It adds another element and gives the other players something to fight for. I like it. still... it basically says if you don't place top 2 in your group your score doesn't matter as long as you're not in the bottom 32. Usually the higher ranked teams get byes or something in the playoffs but ironically enough fenix didn't show up and hasuobs got the bye. It's ultimately because the groups were arbitrarily set up. It kinda taints all the results for me (and anyone who dislikes randomness.) How were they arbitrarily set? The groups were definitely not random. They were specifically set with 2 Koreans in each group, equal race distribution etc. This is the first NASL so they didn't have any kind of ranking that they could seed guys with. So they organized as best they could. And every step they've taken, with tie-breakers and playoff seeding, they're setting everything up for future seasons where groups/brackets/seedings will be based on past performance. What more do you want them to do? Which Koreans were in which group? Which player of which race was in each group? It's still arbitrary. Ideally, you'd have everyone play everyone with one big group standing. It may be impractical, bit it's ideal nonetheless.
That's just not realistic in the time frame they have though. For the producers, casters and players. All 50 players would have to play a minimum of 98 games and up to 147.
There's plenty of massive tournaments in sports that use this system that are considered amongst the greatest in the world. For example the UEFA Champions League and the World Cup.
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On June 18 2011 11:49 Rococo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:45 The KY wrote:On June 18 2011 11:41 Rococo wrote:On June 18 2011 11:39 1Eris1 wrote: Grats to Hasu, but I really don't like this NASL system. A 7-2 player vs what a 5-4, 4-5? Not to mention one of those Ace wins was against Hasu. Now they're tied. You're not arguing for...extended series...are you? Ace has a better record in the NASL and is 3-3 with Hasu right now. I'd prefer a second best of 3. You're missing the point of group play. Elimination matches ultimately end up being worth more, that's just how it is.
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On June 18 2011 12:01 TheHova wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:57 AndAgain wrote:On June 18 2011 11:53 cablesc wrote:On June 18 2011 11:46 AndAgain wrote:On June 18 2011 11:43 Itsmedudeman wrote:On June 18 2011 11:40 TheHova wrote:On June 18 2011 11:39 1Eris1 wrote: Grats to Hasu, but I really don't like this NASL system. A 7-2 player vs what a 5-4, 4-5? This happens in other sports all the time when there's a play off system. It adds another element and gives the other players something to fight for. I like it. still... it basically says if you don't place top 2 in your group your score doesn't matter as long as you're not in the bottom 32. Usually the higher ranked teams get byes or something in the playoffs but ironically enough fenix didn't show up and hasuobs got the bye. It's ultimately because the groups were arbitrarily set up. It kinda taints all the results for me (and anyone who dislikes randomness.) How were they arbitrarily set? The groups were definitely not random. They were specifically set with 2 Koreans in each group, equal race distribution etc. This is the first NASL so they didn't have any kind of ranking that they could seed guys with. So they organized as best they could. And every step they've taken, with tie-breakers and playoff seeding, they're setting everything up for future seasons where groups/brackets/seedings will be based on past performance. What more do you want them to do? Which Koreans were in which group? Which player of which race was in each group? It's still arbitrary. Ideally, you'd have everyone play everyone with one big group standing. It may be impractical, bit it's ideal nonetheless. That's just not realistic in the time frame they have though. For the producers, casters and players. All 50 players would have to play a minimum of 98 games and up to 147. There's plenty of massive tournaments in sports that use this system that are considered amongst the greatest in the world. For example the UEFA Champions League and the World Cup.
Like I said, it's understandable from the point of practicality. But it's not that good from the point of view of fairness and trying to find the actual best players. In football (soccer) each nation's league system does a much better job of ensuring that the best teams win rather than the Champions League and World Cup.
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On June 18 2011 11:43 Jampackedeon wrote: Great game by Hasu, his colossus retention was far more crucial than Ace's void retention. He kept chewing through expensive ground units at a faster rate and that cost efficiency won him the game I believe.
Yea, I agree. I really enjoyed watching Hasu keep his collosi alive. He also had better ups at the point because of the double forge. Overall, I thought his decision-making was better than Ace's during the third game.
I also agree that Ace had a timing earlier in the game. HasuObs got Blink late. He scouted the VRs late. However, for those claiming it was poor decision-making on Ace's part, I think the map positions played into this. They were far positions and Ace's VRs were hanging out across the map due to his decision to hide them. In other words, decision-making and map position=HasuObs had more time to get Blink and add a number of gateways to sustain stalker production.
And with regard to the unfairness of a player with a worse record getting to the finals: this is part of what makes sports interesting. Playoffs routinely pair dominant "regular season" teams/players against players who haven't performed as well. HasuObs won a best-of-three when it really counted. That's not a flawed system. That is drama.
tl;dr HasuObs's decision-making during game 3 was excellent. Ace waited too long to attack, but imo, that was partially a reaction to the map spawns (and the big map they were playing on). An upset in the NASL playoffs is good for SC2.
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I don't know why people argue about this of all matches, Ace had his window but he missed it and thedn Hasus super solid play payed off. He deserved that win and he was very close to winning in the regular season as well. I'm pretty sure Ace would say the same.
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On June 18 2011 11:57 AndAgain wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:53 cablesc wrote:On June 18 2011 11:46 AndAgain wrote:On June 18 2011 11:43 Itsmedudeman wrote:On June 18 2011 11:40 TheHova wrote:On June 18 2011 11:39 1Eris1 wrote: Grats to Hasu, but I really don't like this NASL system. A 7-2 player vs what a 5-4, 4-5? This happens in other sports all the time when there's a play off system. It adds another element and gives the other players something to fight for. I like it. still... it basically says if you don't place top 2 in your group your score doesn't matter as long as you're not in the bottom 32. Usually the higher ranked teams get byes or something in the playoffs but ironically enough fenix didn't show up and hasuobs got the bye. It's ultimately because the groups were arbitrarily set up. It kinda taints all the results for me (and anyone who dislikes randomness.) How were they arbitrarily set? The groups were definitely not random. They were specifically set with 2 Koreans in each group, equal race distribution etc. This is the first NASL so they didn't have any kind of ranking that they could seed guys with. So they organized as best they could. And every step they've taken, with tie-breakers and playoff seeding, they're setting everything up for future seasons where groups/brackets/seedings will be based on past performance. What more do you want them to do? Which Koreans were in which group? Which player of which race was in each group? It's still arbitrary. Ideally, you'd have everyone play everyone with one big group standing. It may be impractical, bit it's ideal nonetheless.
Are you suggesting a 50 player round robin, because that isn't just impractical, it's impossible. There isn't a tournament in the world that has a perfect bracket (just look at the GSL which has lopsided finals all the time because easy/hard roads to the finals, or MLG where it's hard to drop out of group play for future MLG's).
NASL's format is more than fair. You can advance by performing well in a 9 week league, or win a 4 person playoff (assuming you made the playoffs). That's plenty of chances for the better players to advance. Can you say that any other tournament is that much "fairer" at determining a champion?
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aww Ace and lol Fenix
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On June 18 2011 12:00 MrCon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:53 cablesc wrote:On June 18 2011 11:46 AndAgain wrote:On June 18 2011 11:43 Itsmedudeman wrote:On June 18 2011 11:40 TheHova wrote:On June 18 2011 11:39 1Eris1 wrote: Grats to Hasu, but I really don't like this NASL system. A 7-2 player vs what a 5-4, 4-5? This happens in other sports all the time when there's a play off system. It adds another element and gives the other players something to fight for. I like it. still... it basically says if you don't place top 2 in your group your score doesn't matter as long as you're not in the bottom 32. Usually the higher ranked teams get byes or something in the playoffs but ironically enough fenix didn't show up and hasuobs got the bye. It's ultimately because the groups were arbitrarily set up. It kinda taints all the results for me (and anyone who dislikes randomness.) How were they arbitrarily set? The groups were definitely not random. They were specifically set with 2 Koreans in each group, equal race distribution etc. This is the first NASL so they didn't have any kind of ranking that they could seed guys with. So they organized as best they could. And every step they've taken, with tie-breakers and playoff seeding, they're setting everything up for future seasons where groups/brackets/seedings will be based on past performance. What more do you want them to do? It's what arbitrary means :p
To me, "arbitrary" means that it's based on a whim or without any reason. But I think it's obvious that the NASL did have a system: They put 2 Koreans in each bracket and they distributed the races as evenly as possible. That's "systematically", not "arbitrarily".
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On June 18 2011 12:06 Redmark wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:49 Rococo wrote:On June 18 2011 11:45 The KY wrote:On June 18 2011 11:41 Rococo wrote:On June 18 2011 11:39 1Eris1 wrote: Grats to Hasu, but I really don't like this NASL system. A 7-2 player vs what a 5-4, 4-5? Not to mention one of those Ace wins was against Hasu. Now they're tied. You're not arguing for...extended series...are you? Ace has a better record in the NASL and is 3-3 with Hasu right now. I'd prefer a second best of 3. You're missing the point of group play. Elimination matches ultimately end up being worth more, that's just how it is.
Is the point for the inferior player with the worst record against the same pool of players to advance? Obviously "that's just how it is" - any tournament structure will have some cracks and Hasuobs wasn't supposed to get a walkover over Fenix - but that doesn't mean I have to like it. I'm not missing anything.
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On June 18 2011 12:27 Rococo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 12:06 Redmark wrote:On June 18 2011 11:49 Rococo wrote:On June 18 2011 11:45 The KY wrote:On June 18 2011 11:41 Rococo wrote:On June 18 2011 11:39 1Eris1 wrote: Grats to Hasu, but I really don't like this NASL system. A 7-2 player vs what a 5-4, 4-5? Not to mention one of those Ace wins was against Hasu. Now they're tied. You're not arguing for...extended series...are you? Ace has a better record in the NASL and is 3-3 with Hasu right now. I'd prefer a second best of 3. You're missing the point of group play. Elimination matches ultimately end up being worth more, that's just how it is. Is the point for the inferior player with the worst record against the same pool of players to advance? Obviously "that's just how it is" - any tournament structure will have some cracks and Hasuobs wasn't supposed to get a walkover over Fenix - but that doesn't mean I have to like it. I'm not missing anything. That's what happens in tournaments. Upsets. The higher seeded player doesn't always win
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Now I know why Ace signed up for the open tournament lol.
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No worry about Ace, he's already registered for the open bracket
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On June 18 2011 12:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 12:27 Rococo wrote:On June 18 2011 12:06 Redmark wrote:On June 18 2011 11:49 Rococo wrote:On June 18 2011 11:45 The KY wrote:On June 18 2011 11:41 Rococo wrote:On June 18 2011 11:39 1Eris1 wrote: Grats to Hasu, but I really don't like this NASL system. A 7-2 player vs what a 5-4, 4-5? Not to mention one of those Ace wins was against Hasu. Now they're tied. You're not arguing for...extended series...are you? Ace has a better record in the NASL and is 3-3 with Hasu right now. I'd prefer a second best of 3. You're missing the point of group play. Elimination matches ultimately end up being worth more, that's just how it is. Is the point for the inferior player with the worst record against the same pool of players to advance? Obviously "that's just how it is" - any tournament structure will have some cracks and Hasuobs wasn't supposed to get a walkover over Fenix - but that doesn't mean I have to like it. I'm not missing anything. That's what happens in tournaments. Upsets. The higher seeded player doesn't always win
True, but generally an upset is when a player wins who's favoured because of past tournament results or against different players in the same tournament. This particular kind of upset, wherein a player performs demonstrably worse and wins fewer games than another against the same pool but advances in his place, wouldn't be possible in other tournament structures.
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Ideally, NASL should have 8 (or 4) groups of 8 players. Top two in each group advance to the champ bracket. 3-4 get put in some sort of pool or mini-bracket play like we're seeing here. 5-6 are out of this tournament but stay in next time. 7-8 are out completely and have to re-qualify. It's a much cleaner system and removes this whole 7-2 player losing to a 4-5 player issue. It also make seeding significantly easier and removes the need for silly seeding matches like we had to watch Tuesday.
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Oh, and it would also ensure that in the mini-brackets, you wouldn't play anyone from your group, and in the champ bracket you wouldn't play anyone from your group until late in the tourny.
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On June 18 2011 13:08 Rococo wrote: True, but generally an upset is when a player wins who's favoured because of past tournament results or against different players in the same tournament. This particular kind of upset, wherein a player performs demonstrably worse and wins fewer games than another against the same pool but advances in his place, wouldn't be possible in other tournament structures.
NFL 2010. Chicago Bears go 11-5, Green Bay Packers go 10-6 in the same division (NFC North). They both make the playoffs, the Packers as a wildcard team. The Packers go on to beat the Bears in the NFC Championship, and then win the Superbowl.
It _does_ happen in other tournament structures. All the time.
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On June 18 2011 13:04 puzzl wrote:No worry about Ace, he's already registered for the open bracket pretty sure he can't do that...
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On June 18 2011 13:08 Rococo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 12:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:On June 18 2011 12:27 Rococo wrote:On June 18 2011 12:06 Redmark wrote:On June 18 2011 11:49 Rococo wrote:On June 18 2011 11:45 The KY wrote:On June 18 2011 11:41 Rococo wrote:On June 18 2011 11:39 1Eris1 wrote: Grats to Hasu, but I really don't like this NASL system. A 7-2 player vs what a 5-4, 4-5? Not to mention one of those Ace wins was against Hasu. Now they're tied. You're not arguing for...extended series...are you? Ace has a better record in the NASL and is 3-3 with Hasu right now. I'd prefer a second best of 3. You're missing the point of group play. Elimination matches ultimately end up being worth more, that's just how it is. Is the point for the inferior player with the worst record against the same pool of players to advance? Obviously "that's just how it is" - any tournament structure will have some cracks and Hasuobs wasn't supposed to get a walkover over Fenix - but that doesn't mean I have to like it. I'm not missing anything. That's what happens in tournaments. Upsets. The higher seeded player doesn't always win True, but generally an upset is when a player wins who's favoured because of past tournament results or against different players in the same tournament. This particular kind of upset, wherein a player performs demonstrably worse and wins fewer games than another against the same pool but advances in his place, wouldn't be possible in other tournament structures.
It happens in almost every sport in the world that has a regular season and a post season, the same general format that the NASL uses. You play the regular season to get the most advantageous position going into the post season. Once there however, what happened during the regular season (rightly) no longer matters.
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On June 18 2011 13:14 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 13:04 puzzl wrote:No worry about Ace, he's already registered for the open bracket pretty sure he can't do that...
why should he, he is qualified for season 2 oO
just for getting #1 and still be in the playoffs? no, thats not possible.
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@fenix:
a bit strange that he didnt show up. but tbh, i woudve favored hasu in that match slightly anyway.
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@ "scouting the voidrays late":
scouting in pvp in general is a huge thing. you are bound to not lose your observer at any moment, cause building a new one steals building time from your robotics (the 25/75 aint a huge deal).
therefore its hard to always know what your opponent does and still not give him too many timings he can attack at, just cause u lost building time at your robo. especially in the later stages, most ppl tend to keep their obs with their army, might it be to kill the opponents observer or to be safe against dts.
sending probes wont make you scout voidray tech either if the opponent isnt sloppy.
god, i just realize i could talk for hours about such a minor thing in one matchup xD
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€: why u guys keep talking about the korea europe america issue? everyone knows that KR > EU > NA and still there are exeptions like idra and some europeans who can pick up games even from top koreans.
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I would like all of them to be at the finals... I guess on the bright side at least one of them will be. I guess I would be particularly happy with Brat_OK or Ace.
Edit: (I haven't checked the results yet when I posted this)
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Anyone making new thread?
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Moletrap missing the massive attack.. -_-
That was very pretty by DarkForce.
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This is really solid play from DarkForcE. Well played.
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sjow's vZ lately has been looking terrible lately
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motbob
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I'm sure there is someone on TL who can make the thread.
It doesn't matter how good it is. It needs to have
- matchups - results - recommended games
Go for it.
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Haa cool. Because last night there were some interesting tourneys followed by GSL I didn't sleep, so my sleep schedule is screwed and now I wake up at 2am and I'm in despair because the DH vods are so confusing to watch (except day9 ones, he deserves all the praise he gets because all he does is always polished <3) Long story short, NASL to the rescue \o/
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That caster on the right (from our perspective) is not good...
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On June 19 2011 10:26 Mczeppo wrote: That caster on the right (from our perspective) is not good... no need to hate on him because you dont like his style. I doubt NASL would have him if he as a horrible caster. That last game was pretty upsetting. Darkforce had the game won, but just loss what looked to be a simple counter and win. Too bad i guess.
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