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Sideburn
Profile Joined August 2010
United States442 Posts
June 18 2011 09:57 GMT
#4621
On June 18 2011 18:54 anatem wrote:
1. Polt is dominating MMA, these are not BO losses

2. Polt is playing extraordinary,
a) he's executing his builds perfectly
b) he is completely prepared for MMA's style (see patroling vikings, sensor towers and patroling marines on meta)
c) he's judging army trades exquisitely, and his attack windows are spot on
d) his scouting is baller
e) his macro with its relevant timings (when to build what, when to expand etc.) is on the ball

3. MMA is playing decently, certainly not nearly as bad as you fanboys are making it out to be (rewatch game on meta, and if you're talking about supply block in the mid-game, see point 4)

4. MMA plays weak because he crushes under pressure of a type neither he nor most players would be prepared for. the analogy here would between a forced and an unforced error in Tennis.

5. Polt's builds in themselves are not the hardest thing to execute. the way he exeutes them for his style however is harder than fuck, this is top of the top level play. see point 2.

6. MMA is undeprepared and doesn't show a true champion's adaptability. as i said in the past, the kid isn;t ready to stand with the very best for the moment, and this proves it.

7. these games are definitely better than all the finals in the GSL thus far except MKP vs. Nestea.

i hope this calls out some of misconceptions and/or stupidity going on in this thread.


I would agree with all of this. I love MMA. I love him to death. I love him much more than Polt. Polt is a much better Terran than MMA is. Polt is actually amazing, which is sort of hard to believe remembering a TvT of his vs Jinro early on in the GSL... still, Polt is undeniably a top player now. At the same time, I wouldn't say MMA is terrible or anything. I think he could grow into a creative, good, and exciting player.
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
June 18 2011 09:58 GMT
#4622
On June 18 2011 18:49 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 18:46 Nate.F wrote:
I daresay MKP is possessing Polt atm, no other explanation.


As a massive MKP fan, you are doing Polt a disservice.

The most impressive thing about Polt's performance tonight so far imo is the way he's handled himself; he was confident and clear in the interviews, he looks calm in the booth, and he's playing excellently on the big stage while under great pressure.

It takes a special kind of person to really perform at your best when the pressure is on.

I agree. I think MKP is probably better at the game than Polt, but Polt isn't much worse and he handles pressure better, which is a huge part of big games like this.

Even if MMA wins the next 3 games Polt won't choke in the final game, but MKP probably would.
(I say this as a massive MKP fan.)
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
June 18 2011 09:58 GMT
#4623
Alright MMA, you got Polt right where you want him. Time for your standard come from behind victory.
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
June 18 2011 09:58 GMT
#4624
On June 18 2011 18:56 Danzo wrote:
mma is garbage. why did i bet on him if he chokes in the finals to small timing attacks

lmfao get out you bandwagoner/glory seeker
spaZzNx-`
Profile Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1221 Posts
June 18 2011 09:58 GMT
#4625
On June 18 2011 18:54 DonaldLee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 18:53 eggs wrote:
On June 18 2011 18:52 EchoZ wrote:
Poor MKP


MKP will be so happy if Polt pulls off another win, don't worry


He'll probably cry more than Polt.



LOL!
TeamLiquid fighting~ Gogo SlayerS Terrans!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 18 2011 09:58 GMT
#4626
Fourth game now starting on Dual Sight

Polt is 3-0 up in the series
NoobieOne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1183 Posts
June 18 2011 09:58 GMT
#4627
Tastosis that joke is old...
anatem
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania1369 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 10:00:43
June 18 2011 09:58 GMT
#4628
On June 18 2011 18:56 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 18:54 anatem wrote:
1. Polt is dominating MMA, these are not BO losses

2. Polt is playing extraordinary,
a) he's executing his builds perfectly
b) he is completely prepared for MMA's style (see patroling vikings, sensor towers and patroling marines on meta)
c) he's judging army trades exquisitely, and his attack windows are spot on
d) his scouting is baller
e) his macro with its relevant timings (when to build what, when to expand etc.) is on the ball

3. MMA is playing decently, certainly not nearly as bad as you fanboys are making it out to be (rewatch game on meta, and if you're talking about supply block in the mid-game, see point 4)

4. MMA plays weak because he crushes under pressure of a type neither he nor most players would be prepared for. the analogy here would between a forced and an unforced error in Tennis.

5. Polt's builds in themselves are not the hardest thing to execute. the way he exeutes them for his style however is harder than fuck, this is top of the top level play. see point 2.

6. MMA is undeprepared and doesn't show a true champion's adaptability. as i said in the past, the kid isn;t ready to stand with the very best for the moment, and this proves it.

7. these games are definitely better than all the finals in the GSL thus far except MKP vs. Nestea.

i hope this calls out some of misconceptions and/or stupidity going on in this thread.

relax
most of us know this
we just don't want to get involved in the shitfest that the people that don't are stirring


i'm not talking for the likes of you, i'm idealistic like that, hoping some of the trolls will stfu.

also i need to edit that i bet on MMA because he's so good. the points i'm making here are not to glorify Polt, but to give his play in this finals justice.
'Tis with our Judgements as our Watches, none / Go just alike, yet each believes his own.
AxEclipse
Profile Joined June 2011
United States6 Posts
June 18 2011 09:58 GMT
#4629
On June 18 2011 18:55 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 18:52 AxEclipse wrote:
There's nothing wrong with the way MMA is playing, its just Polt is playing so much faster and with a bigger hammer than anyone else in the gsl right now. His timing are sick and he's changing the metagame for the better!


Actually there is. If MMA techs to banshees while expanding again I'll be super dissapointed in him. His opponent is doing heavy bio timing attacks that only work when you play greedy early on (something MMA has done forever). He has to be able to adjust his game to his opponent otherwise he won't win a game.


I completely agree. I mean that MMA is playing with a style that has worked for him in this entire tournament. Polt is just finally the player who is punishing him for it.
Its obvious that Polt has done tremendous preparation for this matchup!
I play Terran because I have no self respect!
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
June 18 2011 09:58 GMT
#4630
On June 18 2011 18:56 Fionn wrote:
I still think Polt is overall the better player than MMA. MMA is better than him at macro, but like MKP did in his first two games against MMA, he didn't let the game get to a stage where they had countless bases to play against.

Polt's micro outclasses MMA, so he's usually the early game to get the early advantage and pin MMA into his base.


i love comments like this. as soon as one player performes well in tourney all of a sudden he is overall better player. you know you are allowed to lose sometimes?

even rodger federer in tennis, brazil in soccer and even usa in basketball loses sometimes.
ComTrav
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1093 Posts
June 18 2011 09:58 GMT
#4631
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think MMA has ever lost Dual Sight TvT.
David451
Profile Joined October 2010
United States491 Posts
June 18 2011 09:58 GMT
#4632
MMA has defeat all over his face.
Shae: I don't want to play. Tyrion: It's fun! Look at the fun we're having!
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
June 18 2011 09:58 GMT
#4633
On June 18 2011 18:58 NoobieOne wrote:
Tastosis that joke is old...

That joke NEVER gets old
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 18 2011 09:58 GMT
#4634
such a old joke >.<
untilMay
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)190 Posts
June 18 2011 09:59 GMT
#4635
On June 18 2011 18:58 spaZzNx-` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 18:54 DonaldLee wrote:
On June 18 2011 18:53 eggs wrote:
On June 18 2011 18:52 EchoZ wrote:
Poor MKP


MKP will be so happy if Polt pulls off another win, don't worry


He'll probably cry more than Polt.



LOL!

Rofl^^, I was so sad for him T_T
MKP/Bisu/BoxeR/HuK/Everyone else in Prime.WE/Day9 <3 :: /人 ◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ モアンイングェスクエ!
thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
June 18 2011 09:59 GMT
#4636
MMA looks so flustered
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
June 18 2011 09:59 GMT
#4637
sick twitter hashtag plug by tastosis
OneRedBeard
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany313 Posts
June 18 2011 09:59 GMT
#4638
On June 18 2011 18:56 Hider wrote:
Polt isn't a bad player. He has great control, however he is so bad at producing scvs constantly, that it really just dont seem fair if he can beat mma. I hope mma just plays a standard safe game in g4, and then he should just be able to outmacro polt.


Dude, he is cutting those intentionally to strengthen his timing pushes. Players of this caliber are able to continually produce workers if they want to...
burn the land and boil the sea you can't take the sky from me
Emporio
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3069 Posts
June 18 2011 09:59 GMT
#4639
Well, if MMA wins from here, he will definitely deserve the name Super Saijin Terran
How does it feel knowing you wasted another 3 seconds of your life reading this again?
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
June 18 2011 09:59 GMT
#4640
On June 18 2011 18:58 thoradycus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 18:56 Danzo wrote:
mma is garbage. why did i bet on him if he chokes in the finals to small timing attacks

lmfao get out you bandwagoner/glory seeker


bandwagoners make me sick.they always ditch the player if he is down. T_T
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