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clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
June 18 2011 09:56 GMT
#4601
On June 18 2011 18:53 Fionn wrote:
If MMA is choking, then MMA shouldn't even be here because MKP choked against him.

Oh that's why he was up 2:0 :p

MMA IS choking, you can see it at many small things like banshee control, map awareness, micro etc. I don't want to take anything away from Polt, he is playing fucking amazing.

And when 1 player chokes and the other one plays amazing you get such onesided games.
Taryssa
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1628 Posts
June 18 2011 09:56 GMT
#4602
On June 18 2011 18:54 Chickenlegs wrote:
I just find it sad that MMA the guy with insane multitasking with 3 drops and sieging and pushing suddenly doesn't look at his minimap and just let's stuff die randomly

This is nowhere near how he played at MLG, I pray that he just wanted to play around and goes 4-3 now!


It's not so much that as it is Polt not letting him get to that midgame that he loves with his multi-pronged drop+attack tactics comfortably, something that MKP took advantage of and almost rolled him in the RO4 before MMA caught on and played a little safer early game.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
June 18 2011 09:56 GMT
#4603
I still think Polt is overall the better player than MMA. MMA is better than him at macro, but like MKP did in his first two games against MMA, he didn't let the game get to a stage where they had countless bases to play against.

Polt's micro outclasses MMA, so he's usually the early game to get the early advantage and pin MMA into his base.

Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9384 Posts
June 18 2011 09:56 GMT
#4604
Polt isn't a bad player. He has great control, however he is so bad at producing scvs constantly, that it really just dont seem fair if he can beat mma. I hope mma just plays a standard safe game in g4, and then he should just be able to outmacro polt.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12885 Posts
June 18 2011 09:56 GMT
#4605
On June 18 2011 18:52 Pangpootata wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 18:51 shaman6ix wrote:
what does 'BO loss' mean?

Build Order loss. Means your build order got hard countered and you lost because of that. In a BO loss situation, even impeccable control won't save you.

Go watch MKP vs Ace game 1 ^^
WriterMaru
FinnGamer
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany2426 Posts
June 18 2011 09:56 GMT
#4606
On June 18 2011 18:55 Emporio wrote:
Also, doesn't Polt have like a 7-0 record against MC?

4-0
"hopefully swing the favor in your advantage." - Day[9]
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 18 2011 09:56 GMT
#4607
On June 18 2011 18:54 anatem wrote:
1. Polt is dominating MMA, these are not BO losses

2. Polt is playing extraordinary,
a) he's executing his builds perfectly
b) he is completely prepared for MMA's style (see patroling vikings, sensor towers and patroling marines on meta)
c) he's judging army trades exquisitely, and his attack windows are spot on
d) his scouting is baller
e) his macro with its relevant timings (when to build what, when to expand etc.) is on the ball

3. MMA is playing decently, certainly not nearly as bad as you fanboys are making it out to be (rewatch game on meta, and if you're talking about supply block in the mid-game, see point 4)

4. MMA plays weak because he crushes under pressure of a type neither he nor most players would be prepared for. the analogy here would between a forced and an unforced error in Tennis.

5. Polt's builds in themselves are not the hardest thing to execute. the way he exeutes them for his style however is harder than fuck, this is top of the top level play. see point 2.

6. MMA is undeprepared and doesn't show a true champion's adaptability. as i said in the past, the kid isn;t ready to stand with the very best for the moment, and this proves it.

7. these games are definitely better than all the finals in the GSL thus far except MKP vs. Nestea.

i hope this calls out some of misconceptions and/or stupidity going on in this thread.

relax
most of us know this
we just don't want to get involved in the shitfest that the people that don't are stirring
lalala
FlopTurnReaver
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Switzerland1980 Posts
June 18 2011 09:56 GMT
#4608
Attended GSL finals for MKP: 3 (right?)
Won GSL finals for MKP: 0

Attended GSL finals for Polt: 1
Won GSL finals for Polt: 1

Gotta be frustrating ^^
Check out @MapOfTheMonth on Twitter and under http://bit.ly/motmorg
Chibithor
Profile Joined April 2011
Brazil514 Posts
June 18 2011 09:57 GMT
#4609
Help! Is it possible to pause the stream now and continue in about 1-2 hours? I have to leave the house soon but I don't want to miss the rest of the matches
pvzvt
Profile Joined October 2009
Israel2097 Posts
June 18 2011 09:57 GMT
#4610
has there ever been a 3-0 into a 3-4?
comeback?
i say we dust off and nuke it from orbit
supdubdup
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States916 Posts
June 18 2011 09:57 GMT
#4611
On June 18 2011 18:56 FlopTurnReaver wrote:
Attended GSL finals for MKP: 3 (right?)
Won GSL finals for MKP: 0

Attended GSL finals for Polt: 1
Won GSL finals for Polt: 1

Gotta be frustrating ^^

Better than mma getting one and his friend doesn't ^^.
Turn it Up
bbQ4Aiur
Profile Joined March 2011
Hong Kong2752 Posts
June 18 2011 09:57 GMT
#4612
On June 18 2011 18:56 FinnGamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 18:55 Emporio wrote:
Also, doesn't Polt have like a 7-0 record against MC?

4-0

Polt is unbeatable against Toss it looks like
RykuX
Profile Joined March 2011
1200 Posts
June 18 2011 09:57 GMT
#4613
On June 18 2011 18:56 Danzo wrote:
mma is garbage. why did i bet on him if he chokes in the finals to small timing attacks


yea hes garbage made it to a gsl finals and won mlg np >_>;; lol ok
ShootingStars
Profile Joined August 2010
1475 Posts
June 18 2011 09:57 GMT
#4614
On June 18 2011 18:56 FlopTurnReaver wrote:
Attended GSL finals for MKP: 3 (right?)
Won GSL finals for MKP: 0

Attended GSL finals for Polt: 1
Won GSL finals for Polt: 1

Gotta be frustrating ^^


Lmfao i know eh :D
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
June 18 2011 09:57 GMT
#4615
On June 18 2011 18:54 anatem wrote:
1. Polt is dominating MMA, these are not BO losses

Because blind Marauder+stim doesn't counter helion builds right?
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
June 18 2011 09:57 GMT
#4616
On June 18 2011 18:56 clusen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 18:53 Fionn wrote:
If MMA is choking, then MMA shouldn't even be here because MKP choked against him.

Oh that's why he was up 2:0 :p

MMA IS choking, you can see it at many small things like banshee control, map awareness, micro etc. I don't want to take anything away from Polt, he is playing fucking amazing.

And when 1 player chokes and the other one plays amazing you get such onesided games.


But MKP choked against MMA, too. After MKP lost the fourth game, he totally fell apart. MMA had him right for the pickings.

In my article that I wrote about how Polt could win this series, I said the main thing Polt had over MKP is his mental toughness. The guy is always prepared and doesn't tilt. Of course this could change in the biggest tournament of all-time for 100k and if MMA comes back, but he knows how to handle pressure.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
ooni
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia1498 Posts
June 18 2011 09:57 GMT
#4617
On June 18 2011 18:56 FlopTurnReaver wrote:
Attended GSL finals for MKP: 3 (right?)
Won GSL finals for MKP: 0

Attended GSL finals for Polt: 1
Won GSL finals for Polt: 1

Gotta be frustrating ^^

He hasn't won yet. I am not saying he won't but let us not assume.
Hi!
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
June 18 2011 09:57 GMT
#4618
On June 18 2011 18:56 Danzo wrote:
mma is garbage. why did i bet on him if he chokes in the finals to small timing attacks


Get the fuck out.
NoobieOne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1183 Posts
June 18 2011 09:57 GMT
#4619
On June 18 2011 18:56 FlopTurnReaver wrote:
Attended GSL finals for MKP: 3 (right?)
Won GSL finals for MKP: 0

Attended GSL finals for Polt: 1
Won GSL finals for Polt: 1

Gotta be frustrating ^^


looks like we will be getting a new Optimous Prime
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
June 18 2011 09:57 GMT
#4620
Ya Polt's journey to the finals is quite impressive because of the different match ups (though MMAs was of course also impressive).

For those who don't want to look it up:

Losira, HuK then Maka (Why did Maka have to lose. If Maka was in the finals I would be so fucking excited ) Alicia and TOP.
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