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On June 18 2011 18:53 Fionn wrote: If MMA is choking, then MMA shouldn't even be here because MKP choked against him.
Oh that's why he was up 2:0 :p
MMA IS choking, you can see it at many small things like banshee control, map awareness, micro etc. I don't want to take anything away from Polt, he is playing fucking amazing.
And when 1 player chokes and the other one plays amazing you get such onesided games.
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On June 18 2011 18:54 Chickenlegs wrote:I just find it sad that MMA the guy with insane multitasking with 3 drops and sieging and pushing suddenly doesn't look at his minimap and just let's stuff die randomly  This is nowhere near how he played at MLG, I pray that he just wanted to play around and goes 4-3 now!
It's not so much that as it is Polt not letting him get to that midgame that he loves with his multi-pronged drop+attack tactics comfortably, something that MKP took advantage of and almost rolled him in the RO4 before MMA caught on and played a little safer early game.
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I still think Polt is overall the better player than MMA. MMA is better than him at macro, but like MKP did in his first two games against MMA, he didn't let the game get to a stage where they had countless bases to play against.
Polt's micro outclasses MMA, so he's usually the early game to get the early advantage and pin MMA into his base.
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Polt isn't a bad player. He has great control, however he is so bad at producing scvs constantly, that it really just dont seem fair if he can beat mma. I hope mma just plays a standard safe game in g4, and then he should just be able to outmacro polt.
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On June 18 2011 18:52 Pangpootata wrote:Build Order loss. Means your build order got hard countered and you lost because of that. In a BO loss situation, even impeccable control won't save you. Go watch MKP vs Ace game 1 ^^
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On June 18 2011 18:55 Emporio wrote: Also, doesn't Polt have like a 7-0 record against MC? 4-0
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On June 18 2011 18:54 anatem wrote: 1. Polt is dominating MMA, these are not BO losses
2. Polt is playing extraordinary, a) he's executing his builds perfectly b) he is completely prepared for MMA's style (see patroling vikings, sensor towers and patroling marines on meta) c) he's judging army trades exquisitely, and his attack windows are spot on d) his scouting is baller e) his macro with its relevant timings (when to build what, when to expand etc.) is on the ball
3. MMA is playing decently, certainly not nearly as bad as you fanboys are making it out to be (rewatch game on meta, and if you're talking about supply block in the mid-game, see point 4)
4. MMA plays weak because he crushes under pressure of a type neither he nor most players would be prepared for. the analogy here would between a forced and an unforced error in Tennis.
5. Polt's builds in themselves are not the hardest thing to execute. the way he exeutes them for his style however is harder than fuck, this is top of the top level play. see point 2.
6. MMA is undeprepared and doesn't show a true champion's adaptability. as i said in the past, the kid isn;t ready to stand with the very best for the moment, and this proves it.
7. these games are definitely better than all the finals in the GSL thus far except MKP vs. Nestea.
i hope this calls out some of misconceptions and/or stupidity going on in this thread. relax most of us know this we just don't want to get involved in the shitfest that the people that don't are stirring
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Attended GSL finals for MKP: 3 (right?) Won GSL finals for MKP: 0
Attended GSL finals for Polt: 1 Won GSL finals for Polt: 1
Gotta be frustrating ^^
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Help! Is it possible to pause the stream now and continue in about 1-2 hours? I have to leave the house soon but I don't want to miss the rest of the matches
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has there ever been a 3-0 into a 3-4? comeback?
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On June 18 2011 18:56 FlopTurnReaver wrote: Attended GSL finals for MKP: 3 (right?) Won GSL finals for MKP: 0
Attended GSL finals for Polt: 1 Won GSL finals for Polt: 1
Gotta be frustrating ^^ Better than mma getting one and his friend doesn't ^^.
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On June 18 2011 18:56 FinnGamer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 18:55 Emporio wrote: Also, doesn't Polt have like a 7-0 record against MC? 4-0 Polt is unbeatable against Toss it looks like
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On June 18 2011 18:56 Danzo wrote: mma is garbage. why did i bet on him if he chokes in the finals to small timing attacks
yea hes garbage made it to a gsl finals and won mlg np >_>;; lol ok
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On June 18 2011 18:56 FlopTurnReaver wrote: Attended GSL finals for MKP: 3 (right?) Won GSL finals for MKP: 0
Attended GSL finals for Polt: 1 Won GSL finals for Polt: 1
Gotta be frustrating ^^
Lmfao i know eh :D
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On June 18 2011 18:54 anatem wrote: 1. Polt is dominating MMA, these are not BO losses
Because blind Marauder+stim doesn't counter helion builds right?
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On June 18 2011 18:56 clusen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 18:53 Fionn wrote: If MMA is choking, then MMA shouldn't even be here because MKP choked against him.
Oh that's why he was up 2:0 :p MMA IS choking, you can see it at many small things like banshee control, map awareness, micro etc. I don't want to take anything away from Polt, he is playing fucking amazing. And when 1 player chokes and the other one plays amazing you get such onesided games.
But MKP choked against MMA, too. After MKP lost the fourth game, he totally fell apart. MMA had him right for the pickings.
In my article that I wrote about how Polt could win this series, I said the main thing Polt had over MKP is his mental toughness. The guy is always prepared and doesn't tilt. Of course this could change in the biggest tournament of all-time for 100k and if MMA comes back, but he knows how to handle pressure.
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On June 18 2011 18:56 FlopTurnReaver wrote: Attended GSL finals for MKP: 3 (right?) Won GSL finals for MKP: 0
Attended GSL finals for Polt: 1 Won GSL finals for Polt: 1
Gotta be frustrating ^^ He hasn't won yet. I am not saying he won't but let us not assume.
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On June 18 2011 18:56 Danzo wrote: mma is garbage. why did i bet on him if he chokes in the finals to small timing attacks
Get the fuck out.
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On June 18 2011 18:56 FlopTurnReaver wrote: Attended GSL finals for MKP: 3 (right?) Won GSL finals for MKP: 0
Attended GSL finals for Polt: 1 Won GSL finals for Polt: 1
Gotta be frustrating ^^
looks like we will be getting a new Optimous Prime
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Ya Polt's journey to the finals is quite impressive because of the different match ups (though MMAs was of course also impressive).
For those who don't want to look it up:
Losira, HuK then Maka (Why did Maka have to lose. If Maka was in the finals I would be so fucking excited ) Alicia and TOP.
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