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aurum510
Profile Joined July 2010
United States229 Posts
June 16 2011 03:05 GMT
#781
ZvZ is not a coinflip... It's only a coinflip when you don't know timings, which IdrA apparently doesn't. Yet he says players like kiwikaki don't know timings. IdrA should have done a 2 base attack like every ZvZ should with roaches. Worse case scenario, he has to back off, because Zenio didn't go mutas. Best case scenario, Zenio goes mutas and IdrA rolls him with his superior army.
jj33
Profile Joined April 2011
802 Posts
June 16 2011 03:05 GMT
#782
On June 16 2011 12:04 Moralez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 12:03 jj33 wrote:
On June 16 2011 12:01 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On June 16 2011 11:59 DennizR wrote:
Good play by Zenio. Idra was outclassed.

no he was outcheesed, a muta transition like that is a huge investment, and if idra has infestors out, zenio flat out loses. zenio chose to flip a coin, and it paid off. thats all there is too it



hahahaha

you don't know what you are talking about.

Idra was outplayed so badly in game 2.


BO wins = outplayed, i love guys like you telling things they have no clue about lol.



game 2 was no build order win moron.

zenio set idra up for that muta switch so bad. he kept idra paranoid on ling/bling/roach push as well as ling runbys.

I bet you're in bronze
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
June 16 2011 03:05 GMT
#783
On June 16 2011 12:03 GARO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 12:01 Serpico wrote:
On June 16 2011 12:01 GARO wrote:
On June 16 2011 11:58 Serpico wrote:
On June 16 2011 11:58 GARO wrote:
On June 16 2011 11:55 Serpico wrote:
On June 16 2011 11:54 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
On June 16 2011 11:53 Stress wrote:
On June 16 2011 11:49 Mailing wrote:
On June 16 2011 11:48 Stress wrote:
Idra is capable of being one of the best players in the world but his arrogance is just becoming annoying now(since MLG Columbus).


Zenio did a coin flip 9pool and was lucky enough to get the position to scout idra first.

How is idra arrogant to say he didn't earn it?


From Idras point of view, anything that isn't "standard" is basically garbage, when it is actually completely viable. He is just getting all worked up because people don't play the way he wishes they would.

To sum it up, he is the definition of a scrub.

Except for the fact he's had more tournament success than zenio.

And now Idra is Zenio's bitch. How cute.

It's too bad zenio gets crushed by players like choya isn't it?

It's too bad Idra can't even take a game off Zenio with latency advantage too right?

Boohoo, if Zenio and Idra were the only 2 SC players in the world it might matter.

It does matter when you're crying about luck never being on the side of your favorite player though.

I never said that though, you did. Idra usually plays macro games so luck doesn't enter into his games unless another player introduces it. I don't really care about that as long as the games are fun and not boring. But for people saying a 9 pool where someone guesses the right spawn location first being some kind of bonjwa play they're delusional. Both games were close and the person who played the least standard happened to win. Sometimes those risks work, sometimes they don't, but don't act like they aren't big risks.
HuKPOWA
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1604 Posts
June 16 2011 03:05 GMT
#784
and the better player one (getting rdy for all the idra fangirls)
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
June 16 2011 03:05 GMT
#785
On June 16 2011 12:04 Moralez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 12:03 jj33 wrote:
On June 16 2011 12:01 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On June 16 2011 11:59 DennizR wrote:
Good play by Zenio. Idra was outclassed.

no he was outcheesed, a muta transition like that is a huge investment, and if idra has infestors out, zenio flat out loses. zenio chose to flip a coin, and it paid off. thats all there is too it



hahahaha

you don't know what you are talking about.

Idra was outplayed so badly in game 2.


BO wins = outplayed, i love guys like you telling things they have no clue about lol.


Idra 0-6 versus Zenio

that's some massive BO luck for Zenio
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Moralez
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1857 Posts
June 16 2011 03:06 GMT
#786
On June 16 2011 12:02 Golgotha wrote:
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On June 16 2011 12:01 Moralez wrote:
ZvZ is just random shit, idra should just go terran like morrow. ZvZ is just a coinflip.


orly? tell that to mr. nestea.

people stop spewing idiocy!!!!!!


First : Manner up kido.

And second, nestea lost some games recently vs some random zerg because of random coin flipping Nestea is just way better and way smarter than any other zerg.
Master League Zerg - EGIdrA - IMNesTea - EGMachine - EGIncoNtrol - IMLosirA - Destiny - MVPDRG -
lazyfeet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States468 Posts
June 16 2011 03:06 GMT
#787
Idra should regret for not trying in the tiebreaker games which landed him in this group.
LUCK is What Happens When Preparation Meets Opportunity.......
twndomn
Profile Joined September 2010
401 Posts
June 16 2011 03:06 GMT
#788
Can't wait for Zenio vs Sen. Sen won the regular season play, he needs to study ZvZ more now.

Sen's in DreamHack this week.
"If MC wins this, his name would not be SK MC, it would be ST MC, ST for Saint, performing miracles." - Artosis.
lithium3n
Profile Joined May 2011
United States74 Posts
June 16 2011 03:06 GMT
#789
On June 16 2011 12:01 Moralez wrote:
ZvZ is just random shit, idra should just go terran like morrow. ZvZ is just a coinflip.


coin flip 6 times and it's always heads. 6-0, zenio fighting!
Quarz
Profile Joined November 2010
448 Posts
June 16 2011 03:06 GMT
#790
lol idra loosing again.
MechKing
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3004 Posts
June 16 2011 03:06 GMT
#791
Idra really needs to start practicing more than 3 hours a day. That won't cut it, no matter how good you were at BW.
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
June 16 2011 03:06 GMT
#792
On June 16 2011 12:04 Moralez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 12:03 jj33 wrote:
On June 16 2011 12:01 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On June 16 2011 11:59 DennizR wrote:
Good play by Zenio. Idra was outclassed.

no he was outcheesed, a muta transition like that is a huge investment, and if idra has infestors out, zenio flat out loses. zenio chose to flip a coin, and it paid off. thats all there is too it



hahahaha

you don't know what you are talking about.

Idra was outplayed so badly in game 2.


BO wins = outplayed, i love guys like you telling things they have no clue about lol.


BO wins? Game 1 maybe...

Idra went hatch first without 9 scouting. That's as much of a cheese as an early pool build. You've got to send that drone out.

Game 2 Zenio just played smart.

He had total map control, making it very easy for him to keep Idra in the dark. The muta switch was incredibly clever.

Idra's awesome. I love the guy. He got outplayed today.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
June 16 2011 03:06 GMT
#793
mmmmmm... that was kinda short - or probably it was too much fun well till morning then
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
pHelix Equilibria
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1134 Posts
June 16 2011 03:06 GMT
#794
On June 16 2011 12:04 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
I'm laughing at all the people making excuses for Idra.

I bet you if the situation was reversed, those same people would be cheering Idra for smart countering play.


Yeah, you really come to see thats what Idra's fans do. He loses, then its coin flip and build order win. He wins, idra is GOD. Man I didn't know taking risks in this game is something to be jeered at.
Cayn
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany173 Posts
June 16 2011 03:06 GMT
#795
no shame that he left chance to turn the tide when zenio micros the mutas accordingly where tiny but this bm behaviour of never gg is poor.

in the good old times of quake and unreal u even wrote gg when u roflstomped ur enemy because of fair play
taintmachine
Profile Joined May 2010
United States431 Posts
June 16 2011 03:06 GMT
#796
On June 16 2011 12:01 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 11:59 DennizR wrote:
Good play by Zenio. Idra was outclassed.

no he was outcheesed, a muta transition like that is a huge investment, and if idra has infestors out, zenio flat out loses. zenio chose to flip a coin, and it paid off. thats all there is too it


haha yea that's all there is to it

those kinds of things can certainly happen in a bo3. game 1 was definitely a luckfest, but zenio did defend well in game 2 and played generally very well w/ good decisions and timings.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
June 16 2011 03:06 GMT
#797
On June 16 2011 12:03 pHelix Equilibria wrote:
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On June 16 2011 12:01 Golgotha wrote:
wtf. does idra get ANY money for playing in nasl?! the biggest reason he came back to the US was because of nasl. but now he he isnt even seeded for the finals. wtf he should have stayed in code s.


I think he left Korea to win the easy money in the foreign tournaments. He probably didn't calculate that the Koreans would follow him to it. LOL


:D

*knock knock*

IdrA: Who's there?

"MC, MUAHAHAHAHA"
JimSocks
Profile Joined February 2009
United States968 Posts
June 16 2011 03:06 GMT
#798
i like the diggity, moletrap combo.
lets face it, gretorp & incontrol didn't really understand zvz either. can't judge the casting on that one matchup.
Moralez
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1857 Posts
June 16 2011 03:06 GMT
#799
On June 16 2011 12:05 aurum510 wrote:
ZvZ is not a coinflip... It's only a coinflip when you don't know timings, which IdrA apparently doesn't. Yet he says players like kiwikaki don't know timings. IdrA should have done a 2 base attack like every ZvZ should with roaches. Worse case scenario, he has to back off, because Zenio didn't go mutas. Best case scenario, Zenio goes mutas and IdrA rolls him with his superior army.



Im pretty sure you know timings better than IdrA I think you should apply to be his coach!
Master League Zerg - EGIdrA - IMNesTea - EGMachine - EGIncoNtrol - IMLosirA - Destiny - MVPDRG -
SoKHo
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)1081 Posts
June 16 2011 03:06 GMT
#800
On June 16 2011 12:04 Mallard wrote:
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On June 16 2011 12:00 storm44 wrote:
I don't get why idra acts like a 12 year old all the time,, really he can't type gg?


It is not fucking mandatory to type gg at the end of the game. There is no rule in this tournament. Some tournaments include rules for it but that is forced sportsmanship it is completely stupid.

If you personally do not consider it a good game then you should not say so. If you do then it is completely disingenuous. How is that sportsmanship?


Have you ever played sports?? probably not from what you typed. It is considered rude by the acknowledging the other player(s) with a handshake. Shouldn't be different from sc2
"If you don't understand my silence, you won't understand my words"|| Big Nal_rA fan boy!! Nal_rA, Bisu, Huk, MC, Hero fighting! SKT1---->
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