EPT[NASL] Playoffs Day 1 - Page 41
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Laids
United Kingdom596 Posts
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Nocthem
Canada71 Posts
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Cryhavoc
372 Posts
On June 16 2011 12:04 CeriseCherries wrote: IdrA USUALLY gg's Koreans. This time it probably was just his frustration at losing a chance at A LOT of money. This time, it may be lack of manner, but he certianly usually gg's Koreans. lol he didnt gg boxer wtf are you talking about | ||
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branflakes14
2082 Posts
On June 16 2011 12:04 Mallard wrote: It is not fucking mandatory to type gg at the end of the game. There is no rule in this tournament. Some tournaments include rules for it but that is forced sportsmanship it is completely stupid. If you personally do not consider it a good game then you should not say so. If you do then it is completely disingenuous. How is that sportsmanship? gg is an "I officially concede". Without it you wouldn't know if their computer had suddenly crashed or something. | ||
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videogames
United States103 Posts
On June 16 2011 12:04 CeriseCherries wrote: IdrA USUALLY gg's Koreans. This time it probably was just his frustration at losing a chance at A LOT of money. This time, it may be lack of manner, but he certianly usually gg's Koreans. He only gg'd in GSL because he doesn't have the balls to bm Koreans in Korea. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On June 16 2011 12:04 Jibba wrote: He had a window for it to work, and it did. Like someone else said, that's ehan timing. IdrA will say it's luck like he usually does, but he continually loses to mind games and deviations like that. It's been that way through his SC2 and BW career. And it was an educated guess based on his roaches. The payoff of infestors is always delayed because of the upgrade costs. the mind games and aggression definitely payed off idra thought he was just gonna all in him with that roach/ling/baneling push, set up a defense, thought he was safe and ahead when he didn't have the map and couldn't even move out to do more scouting, and zenio took complete advantage of it he even cleared out the overlords and really extended with his queen to further take the map with his push, even though idra had the superior force at that time before the mutas came | ||
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Parcelleus
Australia1662 Posts
On June 16 2011 12:05 udgnim wrote: Idra 0-6 versus Zenio that's some massive BO luck for Zenio lol | ||
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Fighter
Korea (South)1531 Posts
Zenio is 4-0 against IdrA in just NASL, but he also 2-0'd him in the GSL, hence the other posters comment about Zenio being 6-0 against IdrA. | ||
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Blacktion
United Kingdom1148 Posts
Idra casts fungal growth, hits 1 of them. "Earn your GG" He seriously needs to sort his shit out, no big wins for ages, BMs when he loses and cries imba. I wouldnt be bothered if he was some no name but the most famous players have a respnsibility to the game to make it interesting and exciting. Idra does pretty much the oposite of these things. Also, not sure how it works with the playoffs, is idra out of the whole thing now? | ||
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foxmeep
Australia2333 Posts
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Spectorials
558 Posts
the timing was pretty fine though | ||
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cheesemaster
Canada1975 Posts
On June 16 2011 12:01 L3g3nd_ wrote: no he was outcheesed, a muta transition like that is a huge investment, and if idra has infestors out, zenio flat out loses. zenio chose to flip a coin, and it paid off. thats all there is too it Muta transitions are becoming more and more popular in zvz now that infestors cant pin them down for nearly as long. Artosis was talking about this a few weeks ago, and we have see countless games be won in this fashion. Thats how july zerg lost in the supertournament. Idra should have known that this strategy is becoming popular. I would hardly call a tech switch like that a cheese. thats the most ridiculous thing ive ever heard, zenio getting up to 3 bases and doing a muta transition sure it was a huge investment but it worked and zenio knew it would be at least doing some damage he was constantly poking to idra's composition before he made the switch/ got the spire up and while he was getting it up just in case a cancel was in order. It was a very well thought out tech switch. | ||
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d(O.o)a
Canada5066 Posts
On June 16 2011 12:06 MrBitter wrote: BO wins? Game 1 maybe... Idra went hatch first without 9 scouting. That's as much of a cheese as an early pool build. You've got to send that drone out. Game 2 Zenio just played smart. He had total map control, making it very easy for him to keep Idra in the dark. The muta switch was incredibly clever. Idra's awesome. I love the guy. He got outplayed today. This. Also, outplayed doesn't need to be in long macro games, you can outplay somebody by knowing their style and countering it. Everybody needs to stop posting the same stuff, if you're about to post that Idra sux and you hate him than it's already been said, move on. If you're about to post that Zenio won by BO and is a skill-less newby than it's already been said, move on. | ||
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ribboo
Sweden1842 Posts
On June 16 2011 12:07 videogames wrote: He only gg'd in GSL because he doesn't have the balls to bm Koreans in Korea. or because its against gsl rules not to. | ||
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TYJ.Aoy
Brazil1265 Posts
On June 16 2011 12:04 d(O.o)a wrote: I'm not a hater of any pro gamers but I don't disagree with Idra's no-gg, he has nothing to gain from typing it and everything to gain from not-typing it. If he had said gg and left the game both times do you think the LR thread would be blowing up like this? Like I said, chances are Machine just stole his g key. Sure he has something to gain from typing it, it's called respect, ask actual progammers around instead of american teenagers and you will know what respected people think of Idra. | ||
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cheesemaster
Canada1975 Posts
On June 16 2011 12:07 Blacktion wrote: Zenio has 14 mutas grouped together. Idra casts fungal growth, hits 1 of them. "Earn your GG" He seriously needs to sort his shit out, no big wins for ages, BMs when he loses and cries imba. I wouldnt be bothered if he was some no name but the most famous players have a respnsibility to the game to make it interesting and exciting. Idra does pretty much the oposite of these things. Also, not sure how it works with the playoffs, is idra out of the whole thing now? yep hes completely out until next season. | ||
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Moralez
Portugal1857 Posts
On June 16 2011 12:06 MrBitter wrote: BO wins? Game 1 maybe... Idra went hatch first without 9 scouting. That's as much of a cheese as an early pool build. You've got to send that drone out. Game 2 Zenio just played smart. He had total map control, making it very easy for him to keep Idra in the dark. The muta switch was incredibly clever. Idra's awesome. I love the guy. He got outplayed today. Hey bitter, well game 1 even if he scouted on 9 it wouldnt matter its such a LARGE map that it wouldnt matter thats why he didnt. Game 2 yeah idra wasnt expecting zenio didnt have much map control idra could have scouted with 1 ovie but idra prolly thot he was going all in when he saw the ammounts of roaches + banes at his base. | ||
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
On June 16 2011 12:06 MechKing wrote: Idra really needs to start practicing more than 3 hours a day. That won't cut it, no matter how good you were at BW. As true as that is, it gets to the point where practicing too much against what you have to compete with is wasted practice. He got eliminated from the NASL, people want to forget that he just placed 4th at MLG. Its pretty obvious people just want to troll to try and get a reaction from Idra fans, its just really annoying. I'm not a big Idra fan but he is basically one of the best if not the best NA has to offer as a player. | ||
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Nagano
United States1157 Posts
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TheHova
United Kingdom2612 Posts
On June 16 2011 12:04 Jibba wrote: He had a window for it to work, and it did. Like someone else said, that's ehan timing. IdrA will say it's luck like he usually does, but he continually loses to mind games and deviations like that. It's been that way through his SC2 and BW career. And it was an educated guess based on his roaches. The payoff of infestors is always delayed because of the upgrade costs. Exactly, if that's a coinflip then nearly all games ever played are coinflips. It's just an intelligent decision made my Zenio. Accessing the situation and abusing IdrA's lack of anti air and knowledge of what he's doing. You'd be silly to not punish if you knew you could. You've got to do what it takes to win. I love watching IdrA but you can't discredit Zenio. He just played better. | ||
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