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On July 30 2011 01:49 NoddyUK wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2011 01:39 lunchforthesky wrote:
You can't expect an American event to run at EU times, do what I did and book the Monday off work and you're sorted to watch the whole thing provided you have stamina. I just feel a bit of consideration could have been given. Taking a day off for a tournament to watch on the internet isn't viable for everyone. I hate to be that guy, but I feel if eSports wants to be huge then timezones must be considered.
The World Cup is huge and if it's in South America the time zones are terrible for us. It's part of it.
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What's with all the European whining this time? MLG is an American event, so it shouldn't be surprising that it's run at times convenient for Americans. GSL starts at 2 or 5 a.m. (pacific and eastern respectively)--time zones are a bitch, but what are you going to do.
That said, typically MLG immediately restreams their content once they're done broadcasting for the day. At the last event, you could even jump to a particular point in the restream, so you can just catch the matches you're interested in if you so desire.
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On July 30 2011 01:39 lunchforthesky wrote:
You can't expect an American event to run at EU times, do what I did and book the Monday off work and you're sorted to watch the whole thing provided you have stamina.
They don't have to run on EU times, but if they want more viewers they should take CEST into consideration. Usually even a 1 or 2 hour change in the schedule (like they did with the NASL finals) can make it 10x easier to watch.
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Damnit I was so convinced it would start in an hour, can't watch the whole first day of MLG right now..
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On July 30 2011 01:54 snifit wrote:
What's with all the European whining this time? MLG is an American event, so it shouldn't be surprising that it's run at times convenient for Americans. GSL starts at 2 or 5 a.m. (pacific and eastern respectively)--time zones are a bitch, but what are you going to do.
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Because it's an American event shouldn't be the excuse to completely fuck up the schedule for rest of the world. They need viewers to watch the event, not just the American ones. But i also understand that its friday and you really cannot start the event much earlier. GSL schedule isn't that good for Europeans either, since its on when people are at work or school.
I don't really care if the schedule is like it is now. I have no problem with it since i can fuck up my sleeping schedule if i want to. Imo this is good post:
I just feel a bit of consideration could have been given. Taking a day off for a tournament to watch on the internet isn't viable for everyone. I hate to be that guy, but I feel if eSports wants to be huge then timezones must be considered.
But sadly we live in a world, where sometimes it's impossible.
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guess I will sleep now until 2.30 am and then pull an all nighter T_T
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On July 30 2011 01:49 NoddyUK wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2011 01:39 lunchforthesky wrote:
You can't expect an American event to run at EU times, do what I did and book the Monday off work and you're sorted to watch the whole thing provided you have stamina. I just feel a bit of consideration could have been given. Taking a day off for a tournament to watch on the internet isn't viable for everyone. I hate to be that guy, but I feel if eSports wants to be huge then timezones must be considered.
Yeah, local timezones. EU events run on EU timezones, and when part of your staff still goes to college, locals need to go to work, etc., it's just not reasonable. You can't get a large crowd if most of them are at work and can't attend, and a large part of the US streaming audience (which is pretty much their only market for Halo/CoD) won't be able to watch either.
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On July 30 2011 01:54 snifit wrote:
What's with all the European whining this time? MLG is an American event, so it shouldn't be surprising that it's run at times convenient for Americans. GSL starts at 2 or 5 a.m. (pacific and eastern respectively)--time zones are a bitch, but what are you going to do.
That said, typically MLG immediately restreams their content once they're done broadcasting for the day. At the last event, you could even jump to a particular point in the restream, so you can just catch the matches you're interested in if you so desire.
because this time it starts many hours later than previous? thought that was obvious.
the previous ones were at pretty good times and suddenly it changes so ofc there is some comments about it.
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On July 30 2011 01:54 Logros wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2011 01:39 lunchforthesky wrote:
You can't expect an American event to run at EU times, do what I did and book the Monday off work and you're sorted to watch the whole thing provided you have stamina. They don't have to run on EU times, but if they want more viewers they should take CEST into consideration. Usually even a 1 or 2 hour change in the schedule (like they did with the NASL finals) can make it 10x easier to watch.
To be fair it's not that they're not already doing things, they're checking in the hundreds of players that they have now as well as going through things with pros, giving warm up times, etc., so pushing the streams forward would also require them to have the check in times earlier and stuff like that, which would make it kind of early for the live players/audience.
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On July 30 2011 02:12 sopas wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2011 01:54 snifit wrote:
What's with all the European whining this time? MLG is an American event, so it shouldn't be surprising that it's run at times convenient for Americans. GSL starts at 2 or 5 a.m. (pacific and eastern respectively)--time zones are a bitch, but what are you going to do.
That said, typically MLG immediately restreams their content once they're done broadcasting for the day. At the last event, you could even jump to a particular point in the restream, so you can just catch the matches you're interested in if you so desire. because this time it starts many hours later than previous? thought that was obvious. the previous ones were at pretty good times and suddenly it changes so ofc there is some comments about it.
It was always at this time. Friday starts in evenings, then Saturday/Sunday goes all day pretty much. Nothing changed.
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On July 30 2011 02:14 DystopiaX wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2011 02:12 sopas wrote:On July 30 2011 01:54 snifit wrote:
What's with all the European whining this time? MLG is an American event, so it shouldn't be surprising that it's run at times convenient for Americans. GSL starts at 2 or 5 a.m. (pacific and eastern respectively)--time zones are a bitch, but what are you going to do.
That said, typically MLG immediately restreams their content once they're done broadcasting for the day. At the last event, you could even jump to a particular point in the restream, so you can just catch the matches you're interested in if you so desire. because this time it starts many hours later than previous? thought that was obvious. the previous ones were at pretty good times and suddenly it changes so ofc there is some comments about it. It was always at this time. Friday starts in evenings, then Saturday/Sunday goes all day pretty much. Nothing changed.
for europeans. gotta spell everything out it seems. so hard apparently
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On July 30 2011 01:54 snifit wrote:
What's with all the European whining this time? MLG is an American event, so it shouldn't be surprising that it's run at times convenient for Americans. GSL starts at 2 or 5 a.m. (pacific and eastern respectively)--time zones are a bitch, but what are you going to do.
That said, typically MLG immediately restreams their content once they're done broadcasting for the day. At the last event, you could even jump to a particular point in the restream, so you can just catch the matches you're interested in if you so desire.
We're whining? Do we stream fucking tournaments at 1 am in the morning for you? NO WE DONT.
Asshole.
User was temp banned for this post.
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On July 30 2011 02:18 Capped wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2011 01:54 snifit wrote:
What's with all the European whining this time? MLG is an American event, so it shouldn't be surprising that it's run at times convenient for Americans. GSL starts at 2 or 5 a.m. (pacific and eastern respectively)--time zones are a bitch, but what are you going to do.
That said, typically MLG immediately restreams their content once they're done broadcasting for the day. At the last event, you could even jump to a particular point in the restream, so you can just catch the matches you're interested in if you so desire. We're whining? Do we stream fucking tournaments at 1 am in the morning for you? NO WE DONT. Asshole.
...that's cause the timing works out for you guys, not cause you take our timezone into consideration.
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On July 30 2011 02:18 Capped wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2011 01:54 snifit wrote:
What's with all the European whining this time? MLG is an American event, so it shouldn't be surprising that it's run at times convenient for Americans. GSL starts at 2 or 5 a.m. (pacific and eastern respectively)--time zones are a bitch, but what are you going to do.
That said, typically MLG immediately restreams their content once they're done broadcasting for the day. At the last event, you could even jump to a particular point in the restream, so you can just catch the matches you're interested in if you so desire. We're whining? Do we stream fucking tournaments at 1 am in the morning for you? NO WE DONT. Asshole.
let's keep it civil. eu events are usually in a bearable timezone for na people, but korean events are much more accessible for europeans than people from north america. unfortunately there are some drawbacks to a global esport
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US people are correct imo... it's an american event and had to be do in Us normal time.
But the organazer of the event had to know that would be difficult for european follow the tournament, so maybe also because it's in they're interest also, they could made a restream for eu nerds... or try to made void aviable in short time so one can watch the friday Us event in Eu saturday afternoom etc...
I think that it's a loss for both Eu fans and Us organizer if the event had less spectators that it deserves...
Actually there's no news about if the vod will be aviable for free after the tournament?
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On July 30 2011 02:25 Antoine wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2011 02:18 Capped wrote:On July 30 2011 01:54 snifit wrote:
What's with all the European whining this time? MLG is an American event, so it shouldn't be surprising that it's run at times convenient for Americans. GSL starts at 2 or 5 a.m. (pacific and eastern respectively)--time zones are a bitch, but what are you going to do.
That said, typically MLG immediately restreams their content once they're done broadcasting for the day. At the last event, you could even jump to a particular point in the restream, so you can just catch the matches you're interested in if you so desire. We're whining? Do we stream fucking tournaments at 1 am in the morning for you? NO WE DONT. Asshole. l but korean events are much more accessible for europeans than people from north america.
because people normally rather skip work than sleep? right. i know a few "night people" but no one who doesn't work or study
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Yeah obviously it's an american event. Even so, the audience for this event is international. Im not sure about the VOD-situation, but if it requires you to buy a ticket for access that obviouosly would be a huge mistake.
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The first day of MLG was always kinda fucked for europeans but the second and third day were in the afternoon, but now we also have to pull an all nighter the second and the third day which is kinda fucked up.
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On July 30 2011 02:30 sopas wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2011 02:25 Antoine wrote:On July 30 2011 02:18 Capped wrote:On July 30 2011 01:54 snifit wrote:
What's with all the European whining this time? MLG is an American event, so it shouldn't be surprising that it's run at times convenient for Americans. GSL starts at 2 or 5 a.m. (pacific and eastern respectively)--time zones are a bitch, but what are you going to do.
That said, typically MLG immediately restreams their content once they're done broadcasting for the day. At the last event, you could even jump to a particular point in the restream, so you can just catch the matches you're interested in if you so desire. We're whining? Do we stream fucking tournaments at 1 am in the morning for you? NO WE DONT. Asshole. l but korean events are much more accessible for europeans than people from north america. because people normally rather skip work than sleep? right. i know a few "night people" but no one who doesn't work or study
The point is that everyone does events on their own time, and complaining about NA events not rescheduling for Europe (which would fuck over much of Korea) doesn't make sense when both EU and Korean events don't reschedule for anyone either.
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On July 30 2011 02:30 sopas wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2011 02:25 Antoine wrote:On July 30 2011 02:18 Capped wrote:On July 30 2011 01:54 snifit wrote:
What's with all the European whining this time? MLG is an American event, so it shouldn't be surprising that it's run at times convenient for Americans. GSL starts at 2 or 5 a.m. (pacific and eastern respectively)--time zones are a bitch, but what are you going to do.
That said, typically MLG immediately restreams their content once they're done broadcasting for the day. At the last event, you could even jump to a particular point in the restream, so you can just catch the matches you're interested in if you so desire. We're whining? Do we stream fucking tournaments at 1 am in the morning for you? NO WE DONT. Asshole. l but korean events are much more accessible for europeans than people from north america. because people normally rather skip work than sleep? right. i know a few "night people" but no one who doesn't work or study
by that standard the eu events are often not at a good time for NA people. for my job, having a stream up on a second monitor at work is much more reasonable than missing sleep, although i recognize it may not be the same for all people.
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