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Okay we're going to start cracking down on people bashing players for no reason. You don't have to like every player, but at least show some respect. (as of page 402)
Lochat
Profile Joined January 2011
United States270 Posts
June 05 2011 05:17 GMT
#17861
On June 05 2011 09:32 doffe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 09:21 Mr. Daisy wrote:
On June 05 2011 09:17 FallDownMarigold wrote:
On June 05 2011 09:15 Serpico wrote:
On June 05 2011 09:13 FallDownMarigold wrote:
On June 05 2011 09:11 mpf189 wrote:
On June 05 2011 09:10 AlBundy wrote:
On June 05 2011 09:09 julianto wrote:
On June 05 2011 09:07 AlBundy wrote:
On June 05 2011 09:06 SuperStyle wrote:
MC comes out, points at Idra, does the throat slash motion, and Idra flips him off

Wow something needs to be done about this kind of behavior. This is getting out of control, I mean this is just off limits .

Omg leik I am so so offended. I am totes not mature enough to handle this. Idra should be ostracized.

Not going to draw comparison to real sports, but come on. This behavior is obviously detrimental for esports. Idra crossed the line there in my opinion.


MC threatened to decapitate him..


oh shut up. that hand motion is not akin to verbally threatening to cut somebody's head off. it's akin to saying, "hey you, you're dead next time we face each other in our respective field of play, be it the golf course or the computer".

quit trolling or quit being so naive.

You do that in any pro league you get suspended or fined heavily.


is that right? may i proudly present you with.... the... tadahdahdhahahhh.... N. F. L. !!!!

Please. Players in professional leagues do such things all the time without being fined. Don't make me find evidence or youtubes of touchdown celebrations akin to hand motions that didn't entail fines.



Players get penalized and fined for making a "throat slashing motion" during a game, and I believe similar rules exist in the NBA, MLB etc.



Its just theatricality in this case... I mean, you have wrestling dont you? If anyone in any way takes his gesture seriously then ya, sure, its not appropriate but everyone with a brain knows he is just being theatrical in his way of saying... your going down next time we meet....


I'm just going to say this, and only this:

If you want "manners" in Starcraft, but think "wrestling entertainment" behavior is acceptable in the Starcraft community... you have such a severe case of cognitive dissonance that you should probably start arguing that 1 = 0.
"The trouble was that he was talking in philosophy, but they were listening in gibberish." -- (Terry Pratchett, Small Gods)
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-05 05:21:15
June 05 2011 05:19 GMT
#17862
On June 05 2011 13:31 yawnoC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 13:12 PartyBiscuit wrote:
Can't sleep, but this is from the folks at Wellplayed.



OMG that little kid LOL!

Also is that Demuslim rubbing TLO shoulders @ 10 seconds? ... such a adorable bromance


Who is that at 12 seconds? TLO?

The one out of focus.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
xbankx
Profile Joined July 2010
703 Posts
June 05 2011 05:19 GMT
#17863
Anyone know how to watch the vods of today's games?
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 05 2011 05:20 GMT
#17864
On June 05 2011 14:19 xbankx wrote:
Anyone know how to watch the vods of today's games?


http://www.sc-replay.com/mlg-columbus/
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
slugMUDorange
Profile Joined May 2011
United States67 Posts
June 05 2011 05:21 GMT
#17865
prize money needs to get bumped up. only 8 sc players get paid. 32 halo players get paid. 32 cod players get paid. we all know how much more sc2 viewers/spectators there are..........oh wait mlg doesnt truly reveal statistics. they just show give out total stream views of all three games combined.
sc2 better get a bigger prize pool by next year. it deserves it.
Quake Lover
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-05 05:25:01
June 05 2011 05:23 GMT
#17866
On June 05 2011 14:21 slugMUDorange wrote:
prize money needs to get bumped up. only 8 sc players get paid. 32 halo players get paid. 32 cod players get paid. we all know how much more sc2 viewers/spectators there are..........oh wait mlg doesnt truly reveal statistics. they just show give out total stream views of all three games combined.
sc2 better get a bigger prize pool by next year. it deserves it.


32 players or 8 teams get paid on Halo.
32 players or 8 teams get paid on COD: B. Ops.

SC2 is a 1 vs. 1 game.
COD and Halo is a team game.

SC2: Player gets his full prize.
COD and Halo gets their full prize split amongst the team.

Nice fucking try. 20k for first place winner, meaning, 4-5k per player?
SC2 gets 5k for the winner.

It's even.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
June 05 2011 05:26 GMT
#17867
On June 05 2011 13:50 bennyaus wrote:
Performances (by team, so far):
+ Show Spoiler +

Dignitas 3 representatives in group play
Naniwa - Finished 1st in Pool A. Worst possible finish is top 6.
Sjow - Finished 4th in Pool B. Worst possible finish is 17-20th
SeleCT - Finished 6th in Pool C. Beat qxc in CLB2 and is still in the competition. Worst possible finish is 21-24th

+ Show Spoiler +
Naniwa is being a boss as per usual. Sjow performed admirably in a tough group, and SeleCT will be disappointed with his group play, but you'd be a fool to count him out of making a LB run still.


Liquid - all Liquid representatives are in pool play from previous strong MLG performances
Haypro - went 3-2 in Pool D and came 2nd. Still in the competition. (Worst possible finish - 9-12th)
TLO - went 1-4 in Pool D and came last, lost to Vibe in Championship Bracket LB2 (Finished 25-28th)
Ret - went 3-2 in Pool C and came 3rd. Still in the competition. (Worst possible finish - 13-16th)
Tyler - went 1-4 in Pool C and came 5th. Still in the competition. (Worst possible finish - 21-24th)

+ Show Spoiler +
Liquid's performance in this tournament will largely come down to results that occur tomorrow, but it is fair to say that between TLO's injury, and their unfortunate team kill situation in the LB, they won't be performing as well as they would've hoped.


FnaticMSI - 4 players starting in open bracket
TT1 - knocked out of WB by Mystik in R2, and LB in R7 by rsvp (Finished >50?)
Fenix - undefeated in WB, went 3-2 in Pool A finishing 4th. Worst possible finish 17-20th.
lefnaij - knocked out of WBR2 and LBR7 by wbc. Finished >50th?
Kawaiirice - knocked out of WB by Thorzain in R6, and is still in competition. Worst possible finish 21-24th

Mouz - 2 players in the open bracket
Morrow - knocked out of WB by Fenix in R6, then knocked out of CLB1 by Vibe (Finished 29-32nd)
Thorzain - made pool play via not losing, went 3-2 and finished 4th in Pool C. Still in the competition. (Worst possible finish - 17-20th)

+ Show Spoiler +
Impressive performance considering the strength of the open bracket. Morrow will be a little disappointed, but Thorzain has performed admirably so far and should have a chance to make top 12 (but then might face MC again... T.T)


Evil Geniuses 3 players in pool play, 3 players in open bracket
IdrA - went 4-1 in Pool C and came 1st. Still in the competition (Worst possible finish - 5/6th)
Incontrol - went 2-3 in Pool D and came 5th. Still in the competition (Worst possible finish - 21-24th)
Machine - went 2-3 in Pool D and came 3rd. Still in the competition (Worst possible finish - 13-16th)
---
Axslav - knocked out of WB in R6 by Major, and CLB R1 by qxc (Finished 29-32nd)
Demuslim - knocked out of WB in R2 by Strifecro, and LB R4 by x6Mystik (Finish > 50-100?)
Strifecro - knocked out of WB in R4 by Fenix, and LB by ONEwbc in R7 (Finish - 40-50?)
LZGamer - knocked out of WB in R2 by ONENamchir, and LB by Storrzerg? in R4 (Finish >50-100)

+ Show Spoiler +
The open bracket players + Incontrol are probably not too happy with their positions at present, but IdrA as per usual is carrying this team, and Machine looks to be placing pretty well, all things considered.


ROOT - 3 players in group play, 3 players in the open bracket
Kiwikaki - went 1-4 in Pool B and finished 5th. Still in the competition (Worst possible finish - 21-24th)
Drewbie - went 2-3 in Pool A and finished 5th. Still in the competition (Worst possible finish - 21-24th)
Slush - went 3-2 in Pool A and finished 2nd. Still in the competition (Worst possible finish - 9-12th)
----
Catz - knocked out of WB in R5 by July (default), and then R8 LB by qxc. (Finish - 35-40ish?)
Destiny - knocked out of WB in R1 by Darkcell, and then R6 LB by Slurgi. (Finish - 50-70?)
Fayth - knocked out WB in R2 by Kawaiirice and then R7 LB by Pokebunny (Finish >60?)

FXO - 2 players in pool play, 4 players in open bracket
Sheth - went 3-2 in Pool B and finished 3rd. Still in competition (Worst possible finish - 13-16th)
Moonan - went 0-5 in Pool B and finished 6th. Lost to Kawaiirice in R2 CLB. (Finished 25-28th)
---
qxc - knocked out of WB in R4 by Thorzain, made it to CLB2 and lost to Select (Finished 25-28th)
Optikzero - knocked out of WB in R4 by July. Lost to Namchir in R9 LB. (Finished 33-36th?)
SLoG - knocked out of WB in R5 by Morrow. Lost to Spades in R8 LB. (Finished 37-44th?)
tgun - knocked out of WB in R3 by Cruncher. Lost to Firezerg in R4 LB. (Finish 50-100?)
Boss - knocked out of WB in R1, and LB in R2 by vileState (Finish >100)

+ Show Spoiler +
Decent performance, although I can imagine that Moonan is disappointed. Good performance from the open bracket, considering the strength of the field. Sheth has a good chance to go top 8.


Sixjax - all players started in open bracket
Vibe - knocked out of WB by Fenix in R5, still in the competition. (Worst possible finish - 21-24th)
Major - undefeated in open bracket, finished 4th in Pool D with 2-3 record. Still in competition. (Worst possible finish - 17-20th)
Mihai - knocked out of WB by tgun in R2, and rsvp in R2 LB. (Finished >100)
dde - knocked out of WB by Morrow in R3, and State in R5 of LB. (Finished >70?)
CocoA - knocked out of WB by SloG in R3, and Spades in R6 of LB (Finished 50-70th?)
Skew - knocked out of WB by Kawaiirice in R4, and Fayth in R6 of LB (Finished 50-70th)

+ Show Spoiler +
Excellent performance by Vibe and Major so far, exceeding general public expectations and have a chance to go even further. Mihai, dde, Skew and CocoA will be disappointed but there is no shame losing to to the players they lost to.


Please let me know if any corrections are to be made :D

I think this also shows that the new up and coming teams can really play alongside the bigger hyped foreigner teams, although the open bracket versus the pool play is stifling this being demonstrated to some extent (e.g. SeleCT is 1-5 so far in the tournament and is guaranteed 24th place minimum)

Well done! Interesting summary.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
June 05 2011 05:27 GMT
#17868
On June 05 2011 14:23 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 14:21 slugMUDorange wrote:
prize money needs to get bumped up. only 8 sc players get paid. 32 halo players get paid. 32 cod players get paid. we all know how much more sc2 viewers/spectators there are..........oh wait mlg doesnt truly reveal statistics. they just show give out total stream views of all three games combined.
sc2 better get a bigger prize pool by next year. it deserves it.


32 players or 8 teams get paid on Halo.
32 players or 8 teams get paid on COD: B. Ops.

SC2 is a 1 vs. 1 game.
COD and Halo is a team game.

SC2: Player gets his full prize.
COD and Halo gets their full prize split amongst the team.

Nice fucking try.

This. Individual prize money per person is higher for sc than any of the other games. Also, halo/gears/cod/r6v players have been bitching about prize money for years. It gets you nowhere. Prize money increases as revenue and size of mlg grows, they don't listen to whining fanboys about prize money (they did take streams, suggestions into account though), trust me , they give out as much prize money as is financially feasible.
Pyre
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1940 Posts
June 05 2011 05:28 GMT
#17869
On June 05 2011 14:23 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 14:21 slugMUDorange wrote:
prize money needs to get bumped up. only 8 sc players get paid. 32 halo players get paid. 32 cod players get paid. we all know how much more sc2 viewers/spectators there are..........oh wait mlg doesnt truly reveal statistics. they just show give out total stream views of all three games combined.
sc2 better get a bigger prize pool by next year. it deserves it.


32 players or 8 teams get paid on Halo.
32 players or 8 teams get paid on COD: B. Ops.

SC2 is a 1 vs. 1 game.
COD and Halo is a team game.

SC2: Player gets his full prize.
COD and Halo gets their full prize split amongst the team.

Nice fucking try. 20k for first place winner, meaning, 4-5k per player?
SC2 gets 5k for the winner.

It's even.


I doubt the cod players have to win as many matches. If July wins he will have to win something like 8 matches in Korean, 8 in open bracket and another 6 or so in the championship bracket.
bonedOUT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States140 Posts
June 05 2011 05:29 GMT
#17870
Does anyone know how everyone is going to end up ? Like I know that the people in the championship winner bracket can finish no lower than 6th, but what about someone like July or Sheth? Whats the lowest they can finish?
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
June 05 2011 05:30 GMT
#17871
On June 05 2011 14:23 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 14:21 slugMUDorange wrote:
prize money needs to get bumped up. only 8 sc players get paid. 32 halo players get paid. 32 cod players get paid. we all know how much more sc2 viewers/spectators there are..........oh wait mlg doesnt truly reveal statistics. they just show give out total stream views of all three games combined.
sc2 better get a bigger prize pool by next year. it deserves it.


32 players or 8 teams get paid on Halo.
32 players or 8 teams get paid on COD: B. Ops.

SC2 is a 1 vs. 1 game.
COD and Halo is a team game.

SC2: Player gets his full prize.
COD and Halo gets their full prize split amongst the team.

Nice fucking try. 20k for first place winner, meaning, 4-5k per player?
SC2 gets 5k for the winner.

It's even.

Some teams give their coaches part of the prize money as well so that may be even less.
Disquiet
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia628 Posts
June 05 2011 05:32 GMT
#17872
On June 05 2011 14:20 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 14:19 xbankx wrote:
Anyone know how to watch the vods of today's games?


http://www.sc-replay.com/mlg-columbus/

I keep getting an error trying to go that page, is there anywhere else I can get the replays?
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
June 05 2011 05:32 GMT
#17873
On June 05 2011 14:28 Pyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 14:23 Torte de Lini wrote:
On June 05 2011 14:21 slugMUDorange wrote:
prize money needs to get bumped up. only 8 sc players get paid. 32 halo players get paid. 32 cod players get paid. we all know how much more sc2 viewers/spectators there are..........oh wait mlg doesnt truly reveal statistics. they just show give out total stream views of all three games combined.
sc2 better get a bigger prize pool by next year. it deserves it.


32 players or 8 teams get paid on Halo.
32 players or 8 teams get paid on COD: B. Ops.

SC2 is a 1 vs. 1 game.
COD and Halo is a team game.

SC2: Player gets his full prize.
COD and Halo gets their full prize split amongst the team.

Nice fucking try. 20k for first place winner, meaning, 4-5k per player?
SC2 gets 5k for the winner.

It's even.


I doubt the cod players have to win as many matches. If July wins he will have to win something like 8 matches in Korean, 8 in open bracket and another 6 or so in the championship bracket.

Mlg probably didn't know that when setting the prize money, since that was before signups. Game by game is the fairest way I can think of really, and remember for grand finals I beloved sc2 gets more per player than any other game (50k compared to 100k total for halo, 25k per person)
Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
June 05 2011 05:35 GMT
#17874
On June 05 2011 14:19 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 13:31 yawnoC wrote:
On June 05 2011 13:12 PartyBiscuit wrote:
Can't sleep, but this is from the folks at Wellplayed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ8peng4_1I


OMG that little kid LOL!

Also is that Demuslim rubbing TLO shoulders @ 10 seconds? ... such a adorable bromance


Who is that at 12 seconds? TLO?

The one out of focus.


That's tyler in the hoodie with kennigit on the right.
iDope
Profile Joined October 2010
Saudi Arabia223 Posts
June 05 2011 05:36 GMT
#17875
I think one of the absolutely awesome things about MLG is that they release replays. And this time the delay between the matches finishing and the replays coming up has been much lower than previous MLG events. Loving it.
SushilS
Profile Joined November 2010
2115 Posts
June 05 2011 05:36 GMT
#17876
On June 05 2011 10:59 travis wrote:
LOL I LOVE THORZAIN SO MUCH

iceiceice: I’m going to make this short; I am the one true tinker player.
MechKing
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3004 Posts
June 05 2011 05:37 GMT
#17877
On June 05 2011 14:36 iDope wrote:
I think one of the absolutely awesome things about MLG is that they release replays. And this time the delay between the matches finishing and the replays coming up has been much lower than previous MLG events. Loving it.

It's pretty cool for the players too if you think about it. They can study the reps of their opponent before they play them or something, and get some new strats.
Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
June 05 2011 05:38 GMT
#17878
We all know it is a travesty the winner only get $5k and the koreans are only there because they have paid travel + accommodation. The more people that tune in the more will we show them how bad their prize pool is.
Roffu
Profile Joined April 2011
United States143 Posts
June 05 2011 05:40 GMT
#17879
Are there any more vods other than the ones under the stream? :\
Pyre
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1940 Posts
June 05 2011 05:41 GMT
#17880
I agree with Duravi. The prize pool is far to small for how tough the compitition has gotten this season.
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