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Kammalleri
Canada613 Posts
If you don't harass or do damage or have good push vs zerg you just won't win. The metal game is sad, but blaming DDE on this one is just wrong. Complexity made a mistake to use Ladder metal rather than MLG one. You can't blame DDE for being like ehh he's close positio I'll be aggressive. No player in his positon will be like hey we should rehost so we arent in close position.. | ||
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Ruscour
5233 Posts
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BeefEU
Netherlands260 Posts
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
I think it's about time bigger tournaments implement some good old KeSPA rules, starting with no chat during games (punished by instant disqualification). | ||
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xbankx
703 Posts
On May 30 2011 16:29 Mailing wrote: Please don't spout crap like this. Playing to win can't be used to justify playing on maps every sane person deemed imbalanced and removed months ago. Again, this is not dde's fault AT ALL, but don't call the person who loses in that circumstance and gets mad a bitch, Idra or not. I can guarenfuckentee that ret or morrow would be mad as well. In a strategy game, people play to take advantage features of the maps such as zerg wants to engage fights in open space while terran and toss prefer to fight in narrow chokes. Even in broodwar, people will take advantage of certain maps such muta harass if there is space behind mineral line. You may think its not fair but if the players has knowledge that close spawn is possible, the players need to adapt. What did you expect DDE to do on close position metro? 1 barrack expand? FE?No, he is going to use the strongest strategy which just happened to be 2-rax. You can't blame the player for trying to win. You made it sound like its DDE's fault having ladder maps which is just not the case. Players play to win because its their job. Tourney organizers will try to choose maps and "players" that will bring the most entertaining games. | ||
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Gotmog
Serbia899 Posts
On May 30 2011 16:37 SuperStyle wrote: So Idra lost all 4 games on same map in same close positions? Because he raged and bmed after every loss, not just that one. He didn't BM or rage on a single lose. Plz watch the games. | ||
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
On May 30 2011 08:16 Bagi wrote: Really impressed with the Sixjax guys lately. I was one of the haters when they were selected in the NASL, but they've clearly worked hard and won me over. Would be cool to see how well they fare in EU tournaments. And after the finals this statement is even more true. Sixjax fighting! | ||
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JKira
Canada1002 Posts
On May 30 2011 16:53 BeefEU wrote: Well it's obvious DDE won cause guess who is their coach? Artosis, and that guy knows every little bit of IdrA's playstyle.. I think that helped DDE quite alot. I don't think Artosis has time to coach anyone in his team. He barely has time to keep in decent shape for NASL. Edit: Also can anyone give me a quick rundown of the games? Someone said a few posts up that they played on close position Meta for 4 games?? Is that even allowed? | ||
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
On May 30 2011 19:33 JKira wrote: I don't think Artosis has time to coach anyone in his team. He barely has time to keep in decent shape for NASL. Edit: Also can anyone give me a quick rundown of the games? Someone said a few posts up that they played on close position Meta for 4 games?? Is that even allowed? That was obviously a joke. What's up with people on TL failing to pick up sarcasm so often? | ||
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Termit
Sweden3466 Posts
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AskJoshy
United States1625 Posts
I've got to say that the Metalopolis vs. MLG Metalopolis issue was handled poorly and I am willing to accept some blame for that. Who knows how the series would have gone had they been at cross positions? dde had already shown in Game 1 that he had some effective strategies against IdrA, and I can't say for certain that dde didn't just choose Metalopolis because he knew there was a possibility of close positions. Either way, this was not a best of one series, it was a best of seven. If you believe that IdrA became tilted because of Game 3 and couldn't regain his composure for the rest of the games, well then that speaks more about his personality than his gameplay. Keep in mind that IdrA defeated FXOqxc and DignitasSeleCT on his way to the grand finals without breaking a sweat. Don't diminish dde's accomplishment because of a poor decision by us, the tournament organizers. Finally I want to make a point about the last day being cast from replays instead of live. It was a last-minute decision that was debated heavily by the tournament organizers, players, and casters. I will say that there were some accusations both Friday night and Saturday of stream cheating and with thousands of dollars on the line, we could not in good conscience risk the integrity of the outcome. I hope all of you will understand that. All in all, even with this tournament's unique set of problems, I enjoyed being a part of it and am happy to see that some people can look past those issues and enjoy the tournament for what it was, a great display of the North American StarCraft 2 scene. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
the game previous "welcome to tal'darm alter, as you can see theres no rocks at the third because this is the gsl version" troll tourney? | ||
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AskJoshy
United States1625 Posts
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Kammalleri
Canada613 Posts
On May 31 2011 02:00 JoshSuth wrote: Tal'darim Altar wasn't on the ladder yet when we determined the map pool. You just shouldn't bother too much Josh. You're like the face of the tourny and everybody looks at you for every hiccups that happened during the whole thing. But much bigger production crew had much bigger issues. It just sucks that most of the people complaining aren't the one that follows the tournament since the beginning, but the one that just decided to tune in during round of 4 and saw some issues in pretty much every series without really knowing why it happened this way or knowing that the tournament run really smooth the whole time except maybe 3 or 4 games. Both the amateur bracket and the actual final tournament had some really awesome games and seeing a bit of a newer top player win a big tournament is always nice! Keep it up. | ||
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ThaZenith
Canada3116 Posts
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Vorlik
1522 Posts
On May 31 2011 03:58 ThaZenith wrote: Other than dde being a dick on metal, i enjoyed the games. Too bad IdrA lost, but dde just played pretty good, and idra droned a touch too much. don't hate the player, hate the game. Only an idiot wouldn't 2 rax close pos on meta, it's a terrible position that never should've existed on meta. grats on your win dde (= | ||
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ThaZenith
Canada3116 Posts
On May 31 2011 04:03 Vorlik wrote: don't hate the player, hate the game. Only an idiot wouldn't 2 rax close pos on meta, it's a terrible position that never should've existed on meta. grats on your win dde (= Who said I hated him? Learn2read? And why would you recommend people hate the game? | ||
Adebisi
Canada1637 Posts
On May 31 2011 04:05 ThaZenith wrote: Who said I hated him? Learn2read? And why would you recommend people hate the game? He didn't say you hated him, he said you were hating on him, and yeah, callnig someone a dick probably falls under the category of "hating". | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
great job dde, really didn't think you'd beat idra.. he's kinda nuts lol | ||
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Deindar
United States302 Posts
 also, great tourney from complexity, but it's sad that they're getting so much flack for the close positions on metal. | ||
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