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Vorlik
Profile Joined October 2010
1522 Posts
May 23 2011 01:31 GMT
#301
On May 23 2011 10:30 Samhax wrote:
Tyler didn't played that bad, but Sen is :

1) A beast
2) Training in KR server with the best players in the world

Stop hating on Tyler seriously...


Sen is in Korea? o.O
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
May 23 2011 01:31 GMT
#302
On May 23 2011 10:28 dapanman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 10:27 Devolved wrote:
Tyler goes Phoenix.
Sen goes Muta/Corruptor.
Tyler goes Colossus.

Tyler goes Phoenix.
Sen gets spores everywhere.
Tyler goes DT.

There is something wrong here.

The DTs seemed to only be for Archons.

Actually I saw him using DTs with his ground army and to defend his 4th. It was hard to see with 100 banelings covering the screen
$♥$
KvltMan
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden1609 Posts
May 23 2011 01:31 GMT
#303
On May 23 2011 10:28 StyLeD wrote:
LOL Tyler getting put into Artosis-level..........I've always wondered what a pro-gamer would do if he quit programing. Work at McDonalds? Go back to school and shoulder a shtton of debt? ...Not much else...

Tyler's said that he'd go to lawschool when he stops playing on a professional level.
Get crunk
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
May 23 2011 01:31 GMT
#304
On May 23 2011 10:31 Vorlik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 10:30 Samhax wrote:
Tyler didn't played that bad, but Sen is :

1) A beast
2) Training in KR server with the best players in the world

Stop hating on Tyler seriously...


Sen is in Korea? o.O

No, he plays on the Korean server though.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 01:32:31
May 23 2011 01:31 GMT
#305
On May 23 2011 10:26 quiet noise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 10:25 Heaton31 wrote:
On May 23 2011 10:23 AndAgain wrote:
On May 23 2011 10:21 Elefanto wrote:
On May 23 2011 10:21 ffadicted wrote:
Tyler knew he'd be forcing corruptors with this play, why go colossus and not storm....


don't understand this either D:


I think Tyler decides his exact strategy before the game starts. Like someone else said, he counted on Sen making hydras.


I can't imagine anyone being successful playing like this.

it worked in BW


strong macro mechanics had a greater effect on skill level in BW

it's still definitely important in SC2, but strong macro mechanics don't carry you as far in SC2 compared to BW due to MBS, autoharvesting, etc in SC2 having a more equalizing effect on macro skill
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Mapleleaf
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada46 Posts
May 23 2011 01:32 GMT
#306
Um no Tyler does NOT have a degree of any kind. He dropped out of Duke.
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
May 23 2011 01:32 GMT
#307
On May 23 2011 10:31 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 10:31 Vorlik wrote:
On May 23 2011 10:30 Samhax wrote:
Tyler didn't played that bad, but Sen is :

1) A beast
2) Training in KR server with the best players in the world

Stop hating on Tyler seriously...


Sen is in Korea? o.O

No, he plays on the Korean server though.


He's in Taiwan I think.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
StaplerPhone
Profile Joined March 2011
United States813 Posts
May 23 2011 01:32 GMT
#308
PainUser vs. Drewbie.... its almost like Artosis vs. Grubby again
NaDa | MC | HerO | DeMusliM | TaeJa | viOLet
Diks
Profile Joined January 2010
Belgium1880 Posts
May 23 2011 01:32 GMT
#309
Why am I not hyped for this match ?
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
May 23 2011 01:32 GMT
#310
On May 23 2011 10:29 fush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 10:28 StyLeD wrote:
LOL Tyler getting put into Artosis-level..........I've always wondered what a pro-gamer would do if he quit programing. Work at McDonalds? Go back to school and shoulder a shtton of debt? ...Not much else...


not sure about YOUR career prospects but tyler has said many times he has law school to look forward to.



Someone doesn't know much about law school in the US.
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
May 23 2011 01:32 GMT
#311
cross positions on shattered
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines."
branflakes14
Profile Joined July 2010
2082 Posts
May 23 2011 01:32 GMT
#312
On May 23 2011 10:31 Vorlik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 10:30 Samhax wrote:
Tyler didn't played that bad, but Sen is :

1) A beast
2) Training in KR server with the best players in the world

Stop hating on Tyler seriously...


Sen is in Korea? o.O


No, but he's close enough to Korea to be able to comfortably play on the Korean server.
Discerpo
Profile Joined July 2010
263 Posts
May 23 2011 01:32 GMT
#313
Idra and Incontrol were talking about Tyler on their GSTL viewing party stream. Apparently Tyler is incredibly lax at the moment with practicing, and from watching these games it looks like they're not wrong.

To sort of quote Incontrol, I think his words were something along the lines of "Tylers total practice this week consists of beating the single player".
NonConGuy
Profile Joined October 2008
United States416 Posts
May 23 2011 01:32 GMT
#314
On May 23 2011 10:31 Vorlik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 10:30 Samhax wrote:
Tyler didn't played that bad, but Sen is :

1) A beast
2) Training in KR server with the best players in the world

Stop hating on Tyler seriously...


Sen is in Korea? o.O


Nah he practices on Korean, Taiwanese, and NA servers. Sen can deal with the latency issues since hes just in Taiwan, Tyler cannot.
Samhax
Profile Joined August 2010
1054 Posts
May 23 2011 01:32 GMT
#315
On May 23 2011 10:31 Vorlik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 10:30 Samhax wrote:
Tyler didn't played that bad, but Sen is :

1) A beast
2) Training in KR server with the best players in the world

Stop hating on Tyler seriously...


Sen is in Korea? o.O


He is in Taiwan, but he train in KR server for the most part since the beta.
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
May 23 2011 01:32 GMT
#316
A lot of people who don't like Tyler is because of how he criticizes other progamers on SotG. Tyler hasn't been playing well for a while, but last time I checked, he doesn't play a lot because of his wife. Even if he does quit, he has a backup plan since he went to a well known school.
Alethios
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
New Zealand2765 Posts
May 23 2011 01:32 GMT
#317
On May 23 2011 10:28 fush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 10:26 Moonwrath wrote:
On May 23 2011 10:26 fush wrote:
On May 23 2011 10:16 Yaotzin wrote:
On May 23 2011 10:15 Heaton31 wrote:
Is this supposed to be a safe build?

And this is Tyler, who criticises MC for playing risky...


he can criticize mc just as you are criticizing him. what's the problem?

No, he can't criticize MC. MC is a proven winner, Tyler is not.


so i'm guessing 99% of the posters here should shut up about pro players then :/

Absolutely. The level of hypocrisy here is disgusting.

Tyler is an immensely talented player, with some of the best mechanics in the scene today and the wisdom and experience to turn them into results. He just needs to get his head in the right space, as it's been clear for a while now that he hasn't.

Time will tell whether he'll do so. I think it'd be a great loss for the SC2 community and level of competition if he doesn't.
When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love.
Deserex
Profile Joined November 2010
United States317 Posts
May 23 2011 01:32 GMT
#318
Hmmm... I don't know who I want to win. :/
"If you can chill, chill." - Liquid'Nony
fush
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada563 Posts
May 23 2011 01:33 GMT
#319
On May 23 2011 10:30 SKtheAnathema wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 10:28 fush wrote:
On May 23 2011 10:26 Moonwrath wrote:
On May 23 2011 10:26 fush wrote:
On May 23 2011 10:16 Yaotzin wrote:
On May 23 2011 10:15 Heaton31 wrote:
Is this supposed to be a safe build?

And this is Tyler, who criticises MC for playing risky...


he can criticize mc just as you are criticizing him. what's the problem?

No, he can't criticize MC. MC is a proven winner, Tyler is not.


so i'm guessing 99% of the posters here should shut up about pro players then :/


his point was the hypocrisy. tyler said mc's play is risky and has holes while his builds are worse and his play is not flexible


it doesn't matter what tyler's play or builds are like... why can't you see that??! tyler's play has NO EFFECT on whether MC's builds are risky or not! he's always just been pointing out his OPINION that MC plays risky, which isn't exactly hard to believe.

tyler may have played poorly in these games, but that doesn't change anything.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 01:37:49
May 23 2011 01:33 GMT
#320
Tyler shouldn't use builds he practices mostly on ladder and on stream in tournament matches. First, Sen likely scouts these sorts of things. Second, even if he doesn't, NA ladder isn't the best place to get good feedback for your builds - pro-gamers like Tyler can likely beat people with sheer mechanics on NA ladder, but Sen is a different story altogether.

I don't know if he did it, but Tyler should've practiced these builds extensively with Ret if not Idra, and they likely would've been able to pick out the issues he would face against Sen.
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