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zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
December 11 2011 15:01 GMT
#8661
On December 12 2011 00:00 unknown.sam wrote:
does anyone know where i can watch the vods? i really wanna watch them MVP games


gomtv.net

you can watch them for free
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
December 11 2011 15:11 GMT
#8662
On December 12 2011 00:01 zerious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 00:00 unknown.sam wrote:
does anyone know where i can watch the vods? i really wanna watch them MVP games


gomtv.net

you can watch them for free

thanks a bunch man!
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
December 11 2011 15:12 GMT
#8663
i predicted that mvp would 2rax bunker pressure on skakuras but i didnt expect xigua to just die to it. he even scouted and pulled drones but he didnt block the 2nd and 3rd bunker which is beyond me. couldve had a perfect defense since his lings/queen were seconds away but he let the bunker wall up and died on the spot.
Eschaton
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
December 11 2011 15:46 GMT
#8664
Wow just looked at the bracket... easiest road to the finals ever, for XiGua?
RastaMonsta
Profile Joined October 2011
304 Posts
December 11 2011 15:53 GMT
#8665
what time did these games play on EST? every time i was on there was no WCG on =[
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
December 11 2011 16:46 GMT
#8666
Lol, finals were really a Bo3? That's silly.

WCG, you're silly.
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
December 11 2011 16:47 GMT
#8667
man mvp in a totally different class...just amazing
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
Deshkar
Profile Joined June 2011
Singapore1244 Posts
December 11 2011 16:50 GMT
#8668
MVP really a cut above the current pack of players, the sheer number and variety of tournaments he won.
Trowa127
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1230 Posts
December 11 2011 16:58 GMT
#8669
Just like to say mad props to Bling! Taking a game of MvP, geez! Making the UK proud bro.
Bling, MC, Snute, HwangSin, Deranging (<3) fan. 'Full name - ESP ORTS' Vote hotbid. Vote ESPORTS.
Strawburry17
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia130 Posts
December 11 2011 18:08 GMT
#8670
[image loading]

Mvp had 29 ghosts including those 21 ghost + another 5 ghost in that rectangular one + 2 in upper right side and + 1 ghost nuking in 11 direction.

His macro and decision making in that game 2 was just beyond the imagination...

the best game in my life!
LG-IMSeed, the Upcoming Protoss Executor.
harman
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
35 Posts
December 11 2011 18:10 GMT
#8671
xigua interview
mvp interview
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 18:17:00
December 11 2011 18:14 GMT
#8672
after the WCG, former Warcraft3 progamers lyc posted some drama related to XiGua

http://bbs.neotv.cn/thread-790164-1-1.html

basically, in 2007, XiGua, who was still a Warcraft players, borrowed ~100 dollars (800RMB) from lyc claiming his family has financial problem...
after that XiGua refused to return the money back, by blocking lyc from his QQ(Chinese MSN), and refusing to answer the phone calls. XiGua have not responded to this drama yet.

but imho there is no reason for lyc to lie since he is retired from progaming scene already.

edit. lyc's profile: http://www.gosugamers.net/warcraft/database.php?id=2305
chosenkerrigan
Profile Joined May 2011
858 Posts
December 11 2011 18:16 GMT
#8673
On December 11 2011 20:26 HappyChris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 20:09 Shortizz wrote:
On December 11 2011 15:07 hmsrenown wrote:
On December 11 2011 15:04 Luppy1 wrote:
On December 11 2011 14:58 darkest44 wrote:
Xigua really didn't play "brilliant game" lets be honest... what did he do at all that was brilliant? All game he killed 1 CC and like 1 drop ship lol. MVP was toying with him.


He did well. I mean, he couldnt attack into the terran because his entire army would get sniped (Point proven by what xigua tried to do at the end) At the same time, his ultralisk army cant respond to cheap and effective drops being done all over the place. Do tell me what xigua could have done better. This guy won everyone else 2-0 all the way through. Why are you trying to make it sound like he's bad or something.

The problem is because he had poor showing in IEM and against MVP, everyone and their facebook friend is ready to completely shit on a young player in need of further development. I'm glad that he won't hear most of the stuff he's gonna receive from NA/EU observers.


I think outside of NA/EU, everyone already knows the chinese players are catching up fast. In fact, it shldnt surprise you if the standard of leagues are as following

KR > CN > EU > NA.

It was that way in BW and WC3, and imo, it already is that way in SC2.

Ppl just needs to drop their fan boy attitude and recognise that Xigua played a great tournament and was 2nd only to MVP. Its ironic that some ppl are basing his performance by ''1 CC and 1 Medivac killed all game'' when half the ppl are so blinded by favoritism, they cant tell a good player from an avg player in this tournament.


1 tournament we saw how poorly the chinese did at IEM china nahh China got a long way yet to catch up to EU and NA


1 tournament we saw how poorly stephano did at DH winter nahh stephano got a long way yet to catch up with ClouD and sheth.
tapk69
Profile Joined January 2011
Portugal264 Posts
December 11 2011 18:16 GMT
#8674
game 1 was too easy for mvp , perfect rush , lost only 1 unit... game 2 was complete korean domination ! mvp is the multi-tasking KING .. absurd macro , overpowered micro ... non stop double drop and double nuke , one of the best starcraft2 games ever ,29 ghosts is absurd ( banelings? ) ...

great finals , i just dont understand whats the rush by only doing a best of 3 ,but thats how koreans roll...

ja foste
nuunuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Finland79 Posts
December 11 2011 18:29 GMT
#8675
On December 12 2011 03:16 tapk69 wrote:
game 1 was too easy for mvp , perfect rush , lost only 1 unit... game 2 was complete korean domination ! mvp is the multi-tasking KING .. absurd macro , overpowered micro ... non stop double drop and double nuke , one of the best starcraft2 games ever ,29 ghosts is absurd ( banelings? ) ...

great finals , i just dont understand whats the rush by only doing a best of 3 ,but thats how koreans roll...



Think the rush of bo3 has something to do with WCG having crazy amount of different games to be broadcasted on the main screen. If all of the games would be equivalent of bo7, WCG would last for two weeks. Having been at the event, I think there were too many games and not enough screens/casters for them. For example, for SC2 bronze match, maybe 10 people were watching it without casting at the rail just behind the players. Think it has always been like this in WCGs though. Too bad!
amori amori
Darkfrog
Profile Joined December 2011
Austria211 Posts
December 11 2011 18:42 GMT
#8676
I don´t understand why they would go for a Bo3 format. I can only imagine logistics/poor organization or something like that.

Also, is it just me or does seem the prizemoney distribution a bit ... weird? 20k 1st 5k 2nd and 2k 3rd? Does seem a bit too much for 1st and not that much for 3rd. Oh well. good matches were played so /cheer.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
December 11 2011 18:45 GMT
#8677
On December 12 2011 03:14 emucxg wrote:
after the WCG, former Warcraft3 progamers lyc posted some drama related to XiGua

http://bbs.neotv.cn/thread-790164-1-1.html

basically, in 2007, XiGua, who was still a Warcraft players, borrowed ~100 dollars (800RMB) from lyc claiming his family has financial problem...
after that XiGua refused to return the money back, by blocking lyc from his QQ(Chinese MSN), and refusing to answer the phone calls. XiGua have not responded to this drama yet.

but imho there is no reason for lyc to lie since he is retired from progaming scene already.

edit. lyc's profile: http://www.gosugamers.net/warcraft/database.php?id=2305


who cares about 100 dollars from 2007.... seriously?
The truth is, Yagami-kun, I suspect that you may in fact be Kira.
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
December 11 2011 18:46 GMT
#8678
On December 12 2011 03:14 emucxg wrote:
after the WCG, former Warcraft3 progamers lyc posted some drama related to XiGua

http://bbs.neotv.cn/thread-790164-1-1.html

basically, in 2007, XiGua, who was still a Warcraft players, borrowed ~100 dollars (800RMB) from lyc claiming his family has financial problem...
after that XiGua refused to return the money back, by blocking lyc from his QQ(Chinese MSN), and refusing to answer the phone calls. XiGua have not responded to this drama yet.

but imho there is no reason for lyc to lie since he is retired from progaming scene already.

edit. lyc's profile: http://www.gosugamers.net/warcraft/database.php?id=2305


Who cares this? They are not running for office. They are just kids playing games. Everybody make mistakes.
Neverplay
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria532 Posts
December 11 2011 18:52 GMT
#8679
MVP is such a beast. handsdown the best player in the world currently!
Better light a candle than curse the darkness
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
December 11 2011 18:56 GMT
#8680
On December 12 2011 03:42 Darkfrog wrote:
I don´t understand why they would go for a Bo3 format. I can only imagine logistics/poor organization or something like that.

Also, is it just me or does seem the prizemoney distribution a bit ... weird? 20k 1st 5k 2nd and 2k 3rd? Does seem a bit too much for 1st and not that much for 3rd. Oh well. good matches were played so /cheer.



WCG has always been BO3 finals. BO5 for BW and WC3 finals will create air time schedule problems, too many other games' final needs to be aired.

But for SC2, I guess BO5 will be alright, since SC2 games tend to be a little bit shorter than BW and WC3. Hope they can change this next year.
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