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Games are going on, no caster talk in the LR thread please.
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2905 Posts
May 15 2011 02:07 GMT
#301
Very strong attack there by Goody.
1-0 over Machine
말크 : ^_^~ NeO)GabuAt, vGODieN
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
May 15 2011 02:08 GMT
#302
On May 15 2011 11:06 Chainfire99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 11:03 I)etox wrote:
On May 15 2011 11:02 Chainfire99 wrote:
My beef with late game TvP is that a terran has to do sooo much more to win the game. In late game TvP the terran has to micro a lot more...do multiple drops...etc...etc...and toss just has to defend and build up econ and death ball and win.

Terran must win early to midgame...accept for mirror! I guess it's something I have to accept. How the race was designed.


Calm down. TvZ happening right now not TvP. Take your whining elsewhere.


Am I the only one talking about TvP mu? Going to accost the others as well or just single me out?

Don't get so upset. He isn't picking on you specifically - it was to you and whoever else you are arguing with. No need to be so sensitive

TvZ is much more fun to talk about anyway
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
Samhax
Profile Joined August 2010
1054 Posts
May 15 2011 02:08 GMT
#303
On May 15 2011 11:03 MYM.ClouD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 10:57 Dommk wrote:

On May 15 2011 10:49 Tsuki.eu wrote:
can someone please tell me what can terran do vP late game?

i'm at a loss.


By going for his economy rather than his army. His army as Gretorp is layers of Templar, it is so inefficient trying to attack directly late game but the better idea would be going for his eco.

Hasu relies so much on a steady income to keep up his Templar warp-ins, a single Nexus kill halves the amount of Templars he would be able to get out at that stage in the game.

Pretty much playing like Kas does, going for the Nexus's, losing more units doing so, but its better losing units killing his economy than losing them to Storms.

Obviously it isn't that simple in the game, it isn't going to be something like burrowed roaches vs 6gate, you have to outplay your opponent, just like he has to outplay you.

going for eco or buildings late game is the worst thing u can do. i am not gonna explain the obvious reasons it's just ridicolously stupid to throw away units at anything that is not the opponent main army in a late game situation. anyway we're speaking about protoss having an unbeatable composition and terran not having any chance to fight against it in any possible way. there's no answer to late game because terran's most cost efficient units are available only in early/mid game and it's all about taking advantage out of them. there are huge balance swings in the matchup since early game belongs to protoss (due to the amount of super strong cheesing/early game possibilities), mid game is terran playground and then it goes back to protoss.


Medivacs/Marauder 3/3 are not cost efficient late game?

Ghosts are not cost efficient late game?
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
May 15 2011 02:08 GMT
#304
you gotta love goody.hes oldskool and he has a very very unique style that is unlike any other terran out there.

life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Chainfire99
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada474 Posts
May 15 2011 02:08 GMT
#305
On May 15 2011 11:07 Polygamy wrote:
There are huge gaps in the skill level of players in this league.

It's the inaugural season...the skill gap will decrease in future seasons. Don't worry, guy
Vincere Vel Mori
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
May 15 2011 02:08 GMT
#306
Come on machine =(((((((((((((
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
fortheGG
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1002 Posts
May 15 2011 02:08 GMT
#307
On May 15 2011 11:07 Odien wrote:
Very strong attack there by Goody.
1-0 over Machine


that banshee harrass did so much its scary.
SKtheAnathema
Profile Joined September 2010
United States885 Posts
May 15 2011 02:09 GMT
#308
On May 15 2011 11:06 AlBundy wrote:
I love Goody's style but he could have killed Machine wayyyyyyyyyyy sooner in my opinion...


i feel like goody plays the way he plays because he truly finds making big mech armies fun. and tbh, that does look very fun haha
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
May 15 2011 02:09 GMT
#309
On May 15 2011 11:08 Samhax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 11:03 MYM.ClouD wrote:
On May 15 2011 10:57 Dommk wrote:

On May 15 2011 10:49 Tsuki.eu wrote:
can someone please tell me what can terran do vP late game?

i'm at a loss.


By going for his economy rather than his army. His army as Gretorp is layers of Templar, it is so inefficient trying to attack directly late game but the better idea would be going for his eco.

Hasu relies so much on a steady income to keep up his Templar warp-ins, a single Nexus kill halves the amount of Templars he would be able to get out at that stage in the game.

Pretty much playing like Kas does, going for the Nexus's, losing more units doing so, but its better losing units killing his economy than losing them to Storms.

Obviously it isn't that simple in the game, it isn't going to be something like burrowed roaches vs 6gate, you have to outplay your opponent, just like he has to outplay you.

going for eco or buildings late game is the worst thing u can do. i am not gonna explain the obvious reasons it's just ridicolously stupid to throw away units at anything that is not the opponent main army in a late game situation. anyway we're speaking about protoss having an unbeatable composition and terran not having any chance to fight against it in any possible way. there's no answer to late game because terran's most cost efficient units are available only in early/mid game and it's all about taking advantage out of them. there are huge balance swings in the matchup since early game belongs to protoss (due to the amount of super strong cheesing/early game possibilities), mid game is terran playground and then it goes back to protoss.


Medivacs/Marauder 3/3 are not cost efficient late game?

Ghosts are not cost efficient late game?

no they are not compared to a protoss death ball and mass templars
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/hunter692007/kruemelmonsteryn0.gif
Netsky
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1155 Posts
May 15 2011 02:09 GMT
#310
Idra trolling Machine - "Machine is the star, I'm just the supporting cast".
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 15 2011 02:09 GMT
#311
Game two now starting

Goody is 1-0 up against machine

Goody is at the 3

Machine is at the 6
Tracedragon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States948 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-15 02:10:44
May 15 2011 02:10 GMT
#312
On May 15 2011 11:09 Netsky wrote:
Idra trolling Machine - "Machine is the star, I'm just the supporting cast".

It is the truth at the moment, in a sense.
Do the impossible, see the invisible. Row, row, fight the power!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 15 2011 02:10 GMT
#313
On May 15 2011 11:09 Drazerk wrote:
Game two now starting

Goody is 1-0 up against machine

Goody is at the 3

Machine is at the 6


2:20

15 hatch for machine

14 CC for goody
ComTrav
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1093 Posts
May 15 2011 02:10 GMT
#314
On May 15 2011 11:09 SKtheAnathema wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 11:06 AlBundy wrote:
I love Goody's style but he could have killed Machine wayyyyyyyyyyy sooner in my opinion...


i feel like goody plays the way he plays because he truly finds making big mech armies fun. and tbh, that does look very fun haha


Well, your harass does a TON of extra damage, you can either try to go for an earlier push (with some bio) and win, or you can macro up and play your style and win like 10-15 minutes later anyway.

I'm not surprised Goody played it safe, if you've seen his other attempts to go heavy bio. (3-Rax bio all-in vs. Naniwa, with a factory, for good luck!)
mholden02
Profile Joined October 2010
387 Posts
May 15 2011 02:10 GMT
#315
Yeah i would love to see Bomber against Hasuobs.


Are you kidding me. Hasu could not beat Kas. How is he supposed to beat Bomber? It would be similar to Neatea vs Inca last evening. Very 1 sided.
Chainfire99
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada474 Posts
May 15 2011 02:11 GMT
#316
Cloud which opening do you think is superior for harassment versus zerg: cloaked banshees or reactor hellion (bf or earlier)?
Vincere Vel Mori
Tsuki.eu
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1049 Posts
May 15 2011 02:11 GMT
#317
On May 15 2011 11:07 halvorg wrote:
When you are ahead, get more siege tanks.



ahaha^^ if he switches to P (like the interwebs say) will he choose the cololsus? or stick with immortals? gogo game2.
Kiarip
Profile Joined August 2008
United States1835 Posts
May 15 2011 02:11 GMT
#318
On May 15 2011 11:10 mholden02 wrote:
Show nested quote +
Yeah i would love to see Bomber against Hasuobs.


Are you kidding me. Hasu could not beat Kas. How is he supposed to beat Bomber? It would be similar to Neatea vs Inca last evening. Very 1 sided.


kas is better than bobmer
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 15 2011 02:11 GMT
#319
On May 15 2011 11:10 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 11:09 Drazerk wrote:
Game two now starting

Goody is 1-0 up against machine

Goody is at the 3

Machine is at the 6


2:20

15 hatch for machine

14 CC for goody


3:50

3rd for machine starting
cuppatea
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1401 Posts
May 15 2011 02:12 GMT
#320
On May 15 2011 11:11 Kiarip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 11:10 mholden02 wrote:
Yeah i would love to see Bomber against Hasuobs.


Are you kidding me. Hasu could not beat Kas. How is he supposed to beat Bomber? It would be similar to Neatea vs Inca last evening. Very 1 sided.


kas is better than bobmer


At what?

Certainly not SC2.
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