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On May 16 2011 04:30 Dfgj wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2011 04:30 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
well played by naniwa but imho the worst game out of the 3 so far.
long time nothing and then one battle which came down to the good old "emp all/most ht? yes -> win,no -> crushing loss" .
gogo thorzain ! Uh I get what you're trying to say but that was definitely more of: "use no emps and have 14 vikings against 0 colossus? yes -> lose"
he had collosus before. if he has too few vikings he loses anyways and unless you maphack or get some lucky timed scouting in you dont know when he stops collosus production.so he ended up with too much vikings but that wasnt gamebreaking and nothing you can really avoid.
and yeah he didnt get emps off. thats what i say. if he did the fight wouldve looked completly different. he didnt so the game isntantly was over.
kinda boring compared to the first 2 games imho,thats all i say :>
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On May 16 2011 04:34 ampson wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2011 04:32 AlBundy wrote:
Thorzain needs to make more Ghosts! Protoss army without shields: gg I believe he made about 6-8, but NaNiwa's amazing feedbacks and a missed EMP rendered them useless.
Ok thanks for clarifying, I missed half the battle.
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I think Thorzain should return back to the Game 1 composition. Without banshees, there's nothing to force Stalker production (which fall to tanks/marines), so Naniwa has no problems overwhelming him with chargelot/HT.
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On May 16 2011 04:32 noobinator wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2011 04:32 wangstra wrote:On May 16 2011 04:31 Stratos_speAr wrote:On May 16 2011 04:30 pyro19 wrote:
no tanks hurt thorzain so much......Bio gets raped so hard now. If Thorzain's EMP control hadn't failed he would've done significantly better. Does feedback outrange emp? On liquipedia it says EMP has range 10, feedback range 9
Emp has a diameter you can EMP front of templars
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On May 16 2011 04:32 twoliveanddie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2011 04:29 Erandorr wrote:
it has suddenly started lagging for me, does anyone else have the same problem or is it just me ? eliminate some processes. do you have other graphic intensive processes running? do you have all the windows graphic settings set to on? uncheck them all. those are just some suggestions.
Its nothing to do with PCs this is a known problem with ustream its why a lot of casters switched to other streamers. All you can do is refresh and hope for a better router next time. I cant believe so few people have used USTREAM in the past and pass on bad advice.
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On May 16 2011 04:34 AdreN- wrote:
Didn't Naniwa lose to SaSe in a bo3 recently?
Yes. He also lost to Squirtle 1-2 IIRC. PvP seems to be his weakest MU surprisingly enough.
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On May 16 2011 04:33 AndAgain wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2011 04:31 Torenhire wrote:
Booo Naniwa!
Come on Thorzain! If Naniwa is allowed to 4-gate into the finals, you're allowed to bitbybit to win! :p
Wonder if he's gonna bust out the Thor build. GOgogogo THORZAIN! Uh, who did Naniwa 4 gate? I remember 1 time against Hasu and that's it.
Every game against Hasu but the first?
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On May 16 2011 04:33 Heavenly wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2011 04:31 npkrol wrote:
Storms are ridiculous even without an amulet :/
It's like "i'll just press t and you'll die" Yeah a 3 base toss versus 2 base terran winning a battle which included high templar when his opponent had tons of supply and resources sunk into vikings, very OP. You know what else kills everything when you press T? Stim. Try beating stimmed MMM without any AOE.
Yeah, but 3 base toss had supply sunk into probes and had less upgrades. That was his timing, but he didn't attack and thus lost.
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On May 16 2011 04:30 pyro19 wrote:
no tanks hurt thorzain so much......Bio gets raped so hard now.
tanks don't work out so well either, considering protoss can just dance around them, like on the crevasse game.
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Anyone saying that the patch is the reason naniwa is winning right now needs to go back and look at his accomplishments leading up to this.
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Naniwa is just to good in his reactions. Even in the first game he made it a hell of a lot harder for Thorzain than he expected. Most people would of folded after the first attack in game 1. Nani in game 2 & 3 just outplayed Thorzain, little mistakes from Thorzain and Nani capitalising on those errors beautifully.
I think Thorzain really needs a raven to stop Nani have complete map vision. Nani can always see Thorzain's composition and react according but the only time Thorzain gets to see is when it's too late.
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On May 16 2011 04:34 AdreN- wrote:
Didn't Naniwa lose to SaSe in a bo3 recently?
in the road to korea finals
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On May 16 2011 04:34 Casablancas wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2011 04:33 ArghUScaredMe wrote:On May 16 2011 04:32 j0k3r wrote:On May 16 2011 04:32 R3N wrote:On May 16 2011 04:31 Fenrisulf wrote:
Get Naniwa's ass in GSL, fuck. Seriously competing with MC for best Toss in the world. In due time. Isn't he getting a code A spot from winning a big tourney? How does he get code A in GSL from TSL3? They're completely unrelated. GomTV giving out seeds to big tournament winners?
Only MLG
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On May 16 2011 04:32 twoliveanddie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2011 04:29 Erandorr wrote:
it has suddenly started lagging for me, does anyone else have the same problem or is it just me ? eliminate some processes. do you have other graphic intensive processes running? do you have all the windows graphic settings set to on? uncheck them all. those are just some suggestions.
clearing browser cache also helps sometimes
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On May 16 2011 04:33 AdreN- wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2011 04:32 NeedPants wrote:
So what is a good army comp for terran to deal with storms +chargelots??
Seems like naniwa has a tight grasp on thorzains nuts :o None, you have to hope for good EMPs or you lose.
It's not about the composition, it's about position of your units, harrass (terran has way better harass than toss), and, like day9 says, just not trying to go blob against blob, cause toss blob is stronger, but terran has more options
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On May 16 2011 04:34 AdreN- wrote:
Didn't Naniwa lose to SaSe in a bo3 recently?
He said that he was in a poor scheduling situation for that series iirc.
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On May 16 2011 04:33 AdreN- wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2011 04:32 NeedPants wrote:
So what is a good army comp for terran to deal with storms +chargelots??
Seems like naniwa has a tight grasp on thorzains nuts :o None, you have to hope for good EMPs or you lose.
Just like you have to land good storms!
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On May 16 2011 04:32 noobinator wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2011 04:32 wangstra wrote:On May 16 2011 04:31 Stratos_speAr wrote:On May 16 2011 04:30 pyro19 wrote:
no tanks hurt thorzain so much......Bio gets raped so hard now. If Thorzain's EMP control hadn't failed he would've done significantly better. Does feedback outrange emp? On liquipedia it says EMP has range 10, feedback range 9
The real issue was that in the initial engagement Thorzain had very limited EMPs (I'd have to watch the replay to see just how many) since his ghosts just popped. There wasn't much he could do.
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What is this stupid crazy for cricket commercial that never goes away??
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When the LQ is bad, why you don't switch to the HQ-Stream? I'm sitting in France in a hotel far from anything and it works like a charm!
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