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BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
May 15 2011 19:35 GMT
#3161
On May 16 2011 04:30 Dfgj wrote:
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On May 16 2011 04:30 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
well played by naniwa but imho the worst game out of the 3 so far.

long time nothing and then one battle which came down to the good old "emp all/most ht? yes -> win,no -> crushing loss" .

gogo thorzain !

Uh I get what you're trying to say but that was definitely more of: "use no emps and have 14 vikings against 0 colossus? yes -> lose"


he had collosus before. if he has too few vikings he loses anyways and unless you maphack or get some lucky timed scouting in you dont know when he stops collosus production.so he ended up with too much vikings but that wasnt gamebreaking and nothing you can really avoid.


and yeah he didnt get emps off. thats what i say. if he did the fight wouldve looked completly different. he didnt so the game isntantly was over.

kinda boring compared to the first 2 games imho,thats all i say :>
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
May 15 2011 19:35 GMT
#3162
On May 16 2011 04:34 ampson wrote:
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On May 16 2011 04:32 AlBundy wrote:
Thorzain needs to make more Ghosts! Protoss army without shields: gg



I believe he made about 6-8, but NaNiwa's amazing feedbacks and a missed EMP rendered them useless.


Ok thanks for clarifying, I missed half the battle.
o choro é livre
mav451
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1596 Posts
May 15 2011 19:35 GMT
#3163
I think Thorzain should return back to the Game 1 composition. Without banshees, there's nothing to force Stalker production (which fall to tanks/marines), so Naniwa has no problems overwhelming him with chargelot/HT.
With no power comes no responsibility?
Cryhavoc
Profile Joined April 2010
372 Posts
May 15 2011 19:35 GMT
#3164
On May 16 2011 04:32 noobinator wrote:
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On May 16 2011 04:32 wangstra wrote:
On May 16 2011 04:31 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On May 16 2011 04:30 pyro19 wrote:
no tanks hurt thorzain so much......Bio gets raped so hard now.


If Thorzain's EMP control hadn't failed he would've done significantly better.


Does feedback outrange emp?

On liquipedia it says EMP has range 10, feedback range 9

Emp has a diameter you can EMP front of templars
En Taro Adun!
Vimsey
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2235 Posts
May 15 2011 19:35 GMT
#3165
On May 16 2011 04:32 twoliveanddie wrote:
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On May 16 2011 04:29 Erandorr wrote:
it has suddenly started lagging for me, does anyone else have the same problem or is it just me ?


eliminate some processes. do you have other graphic intensive processes running? do you have all the windows graphic settings set to on? uncheck them all.

those are just some suggestions.

Its nothing to do with PCs this is a known problem with ustream its why a lot of casters switched to other streamers. All you can do is refresh and hope for a better router next time. I cant believe so few people have used USTREAM in the past and pass on bad advice.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
May 15 2011 19:35 GMT
#3166
On May 16 2011 04:34 AdreN- wrote:
Didn't Naniwa lose to SaSe in a bo3 recently?


Yes. He also lost to Squirtle 1-2 IIRC. PvP seems to be his weakest MU surprisingly enough.
Vandal_heart
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom88 Posts
May 15 2011 19:35 GMT
#3167
On May 16 2011 04:33 AndAgain wrote:
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On May 16 2011 04:31 Torenhire wrote:
Booo Naniwa!

Come on Thorzain! If Naniwa is allowed to 4-gate into the finals, you're allowed to bitbybit to win! :p

Wonder if he's gonna bust out the Thor build. GOgogogo THORZAIN!


Uh, who did Naniwa 4 gate? I remember 1 time against Hasu and that's it.




Every game against Hasu but the first?
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
May 15 2011 19:35 GMT
#3168
On May 16 2011 04:33 Heavenly wrote:
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On May 16 2011 04:31 npkrol wrote:
Storms are ridiculous even without an amulet :/
It's like "i'll just press t and you'll die"


Yeah a 3 base toss versus 2 base terran winning a battle which included high templar when his opponent had tons of supply and resources sunk into vikings, very OP. You know what else kills everything when you press T? Stim. Try beating stimmed MMM without any AOE.


Yeah, but 3 base toss had supply sunk into probes and had less upgrades. That was his timing, but he didn't attack and thus lost.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
May 15 2011 19:35 GMT
#3169
On May 16 2011 04:30 pyro19 wrote:
no tanks hurt thorzain so much......Bio gets raped so hard now.


tanks don't work out so well either, considering protoss can just dance around them, like on the crevasse game.
sharktopus.
Profile Joined April 2011
United States456 Posts
May 15 2011 19:35 GMT
#3170
Anyone saying that the patch is the reason naniwa is winning right now needs to go back and look at his accomplishments leading up to this.
Logo2010
Profile Joined October 2010
509 Posts
May 15 2011 19:35 GMT
#3171
Naniwa is just to good in his reactions. Even in the first game he made it a hell of a lot harder for Thorzain than he expected. Most people would of folded after the first attack in game 1. Nani in game 2 & 3 just outplayed Thorzain, little mistakes from Thorzain and Nani capitalising on those errors beautifully.

I think Thorzain really needs a raven to stop Nani have complete map vision. Nani can always see Thorzain's composition and react according but the only time Thorzain gets to see is when it's too late.
Bolars
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden12 Posts
May 15 2011 19:35 GMT
#3172
On May 16 2011 04:34 AdreN- wrote:
Didn't Naniwa lose to SaSe in a bo3 recently?

in the road to korea finals
What is best in life?
FinnGamer
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany2426 Posts
May 15 2011 19:35 GMT
#3173
On May 16 2011 04:34 Casablancas wrote:
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On May 16 2011 04:33 ArghUScaredMe wrote:
On May 16 2011 04:32 j0k3r wrote:
On May 16 2011 04:32 R3N wrote:
On May 16 2011 04:31 Fenrisulf wrote:
Get Naniwa's ass in GSL, fuck. Seriously competing with MC for best Toss in the world.


In due time.


Isn't he getting a code A spot from winning a big tourney?

How does he get code A in GSL from TSL3? They're completely unrelated.


GomTV giving out seeds to big tournament winners?

Only MLG
"hopefully swing the favor in your advantage." - Day[9]
Funkatron
Profile Joined July 2010
United States725 Posts
May 15 2011 19:35 GMT
#3174
On May 16 2011 04:32 twoliveanddie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 04:29 Erandorr wrote:
it has suddenly started lagging for me, does anyone else have the same problem or is it just me ?


eliminate some processes. do you have other graphic intensive processes running? do you have all the windows graphic settings set to on? uncheck them all.

those are just some suggestions.

clearing browser cache also helps sometimes
danielbe
Profile Joined December 2010
Colombia24 Posts
May 15 2011 19:35 GMT
#3175
On May 16 2011 04:33 AdreN- wrote:
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On May 16 2011 04:32 NeedPants wrote:
So what is a good army comp for terran to deal with storms +chargelots??
Seems like naniwa has a tight grasp on thorzains nuts :o

None, you have to hope for good EMPs or you lose.


It's not about the composition, it's about position of your units, harrass (terran has way better harass than toss), and, like day9 says, just not trying to go blob against blob, cause toss blob is stronger, but terran has more options
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
May 15 2011 19:35 GMT
#3176
On May 16 2011 04:34 AdreN- wrote:
Didn't Naniwa lose to SaSe in a bo3 recently?

He said that he was in a poor scheduling situation for that series iirc.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
May 15 2011 19:35 GMT
#3177
On May 16 2011 04:33 AdreN- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 04:32 NeedPants wrote:
So what is a good army comp for terran to deal with storms +chargelots??
Seems like naniwa has a tight grasp on thorzains nuts :o

None, you have to hope for good EMPs or you lose.

Just like you have to land good storms!
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
May 15 2011 19:35 GMT
#3178
On May 16 2011 04:32 noobinator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 04:32 wangstra wrote:
On May 16 2011 04:31 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On May 16 2011 04:30 pyro19 wrote:
no tanks hurt thorzain so much......Bio gets raped so hard now.


If Thorzain's EMP control hadn't failed he would've done significantly better.


Does feedback outrange emp?

On liquipedia it says EMP has range 10, feedback range 9


The real issue was that in the initial engagement Thorzain had very limited EMPs (I'd have to watch the replay to see just how many) since his ghosts just popped. There wasn't much he could do.
NightAngel
Profile Joined June 2010
United States144 Posts
May 15 2011 19:35 GMT
#3179
What is this stupid crazy for cricket commercial that never goes away??
[QUOTE][B]On August 05 2011 05:06 Beerdrinker wrote:[/B] TSL needs to be more sensitive about doing business in korea, they need to be respectful of the culture, their contracts and verbal obligations[/QUOTE]
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
May 15 2011 19:35 GMT
#3180
When the LQ is bad, why you don't switch to the HQ-Stream? I'm sitting in France in a hotel far from anything and it works like a charm!
There can only be one Geisterkarle
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