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On May 18 2011 11:33 On_Slaught wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2011 11:30 Whole wrote:On May 18 2011 11:28 On_Slaught wrote:
Idra has bitched about cross-server lag more than ANYBODY in the sc2 community. It is extremely disingenuous for him to completely undermine any lag Adel had.
Talk about hypocrisy. On May 18 2011 11:29 hiawatha wrote:
ironic, because Idra is one of the most vocal progamers complaining about latency problems -.- he says the Korean to NA server lag is horrible, but says the EU <-> NA lag is playable. get your facts straight X_X Talk about misconstruing the argument. For starters he doesn't play on EU, so he wouldn't know what adel has to go through. Second, even if KR is worse, it doesn't make EU good. If Adel says he has lag then he has lag. The fact he is in EU instead of KR doesn't mean a god damn thing when it comes down to the validity of his point.
Do you know anything about Adelscott? He blames EVERYTHING on lag.
Just last week he did a blind 3 base vs a 1 base all in and lost, claimed it was due to lag.
Adel is massively BM. Watch his game vs KawaiiRice before making that conclusion.
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On May 18 2011 11:35 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2011 11:33 On_Slaught wrote:On May 18 2011 11:30 Whole wrote:On May 18 2011 11:28 On_Slaught wrote:
Idra has bitched about cross-server lag more than ANYBODY in the sc2 community. It is extremely disingenuous for him to completely undermine any lag Adel had.
Talk about hypocrisy. On May 18 2011 11:29 hiawatha wrote:
ironic, because Idra is one of the most vocal progamers complaining about latency problems -.- he says the Korean to NA server lag is horrible, but says the EU <-> NA lag is playable. get your facts straight X_X Talk about misconstruing the argument. For starters he doesn't play on EU, so he wouldn't know what adel has to go through. Second, even if KR is worse, it doesn't make EU good. If Adel says he has lag then he has lag. The fact he is in EU instead of KR doesn't mean a god damn thing when it comes down to the validity of his point. http://sc2ranks.com/eu/1987374/EGIdrAIs this not Idra's EU account? Or is it a fake?
Slaught, FYI Idra does play on EU. He has said it on his stream as well, the reason he doesn't stream and play on EU is because when he does both he gets lag badly or something but he plays on EU just doesn't stream on it.
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On May 18 2011 11:35 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2011 11:33 On_Slaught wrote:On May 18 2011 11:30 Whole wrote:On May 18 2011 11:28 On_Slaught wrote:
Idra has bitched about cross-server lag more than ANYBODY in the sc2 community. It is extremely disingenuous for him to completely undermine any lag Adel had.
Talk about hypocrisy. On May 18 2011 11:29 hiawatha wrote:
ironic, because Idra is one of the most vocal progamers complaining about latency problems -.- he says the Korean to NA server lag is horrible, but says the EU <-> NA lag is playable. get your facts straight X_X Talk about misconstruing the argument. For starters he doesn't play on EU, so he wouldn't know what adel has to go through. Second, even if KR is worse, it doesn't make EU good. If Adel says he has lag then he has lag. The fact he is in EU instead of KR doesn't mean a god damn thing when it comes down to the validity of his point. http://sc2ranks.com/eu/1987374/EGIdrAIs this not Idra's EU account? Or is it a fake?
What country is Idra living in?
Either way it's a moot point if you actually read what I said.
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On May 18 2011 11:33 On_Slaught wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2011 11:30 Whole wrote:On May 18 2011 11:28 On_Slaught wrote:
Idra has bitched about cross-server lag more than ANYBODY in the sc2 community. It is extremely disingenuous for him to completely undermine any lag Adel had.
Talk about hypocrisy. On May 18 2011 11:29 hiawatha wrote:
ironic, because Idra is one of the most vocal progamers complaining about latency problems -.- he says the Korean to NA server lag is horrible, but says the EU <-> NA lag is playable. get your facts straight X_X Talk about misconstruing the argument. For starters he doesn't play on EU, so he wouldn't know what adel has to go through. Second, even if KR is worse, it doesn't make EU good. If Adel says he has lag then he has lag. The fact he is in EU instead of KR doesn't mean a god damn thing when it comes down to the validity of his point.
Idra does play on EU, so do most NA players, it's 100% fine from NA to EU.
NA to KR is good as well just ppl seem to lie about the latency for some reason lol
edit: it only takes like 2 days to get used to*;
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On May 18 2011 11:33 On_Slaught wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2011 11:30 Whole wrote:On May 18 2011 11:28 On_Slaught wrote:
Idra has bitched about cross-server lag more than ANYBODY in the sc2 community. It is extremely disingenuous for him to completely undermine any lag Adel had.
Talk about hypocrisy. On May 18 2011 11:29 hiawatha wrote:
ironic, because Idra is one of the most vocal progamers complaining about latency problems -.- he says the Korean to NA server lag is horrible, but says the EU <-> NA lag is playable. get your facts straight X_X Talk about misconstruing the argument. For starters he doesn't play on EU, so he wouldn't know what adel has to go through. Second, even if KR is worse, it doesn't make EU good. If Adel says he has lag then he has lag. The fact he is in EU instead of KR doesn't mean a god damn thing when it comes down to the validity of his point.
If only Adel has lag, then it is his internet, not the server. I never recall any Europeans complain about EU -> NA lag. Certainly not to the point where they start to blame their losses on it. And I don't think EU -> NA would be much different from NA -> EU. IdrA does play on EU btw.
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wtf? I mean is there any benefit to not walling off? I mean Im seriously scratching my head on this one. Only things I can think of:
-shave off some lost mineral mining time of sending the probe to the ramp.
-mind game of some kind, like inviting an attack when he knows Idra prefers to macro?
?????????????
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On May 18 2011 11:36 KawaiiRice wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2011 11:33 On_Slaught wrote:On May 18 2011 11:30 Whole wrote:On May 18 2011 11:28 On_Slaught wrote:
Idra has bitched about cross-server lag more than ANYBODY in the sc2 community. It is extremely disingenuous for him to completely undermine any lag Adel had.
Talk about hypocrisy. On May 18 2011 11:29 hiawatha wrote:
ironic, because Idra is one of the most vocal progamers complaining about latency problems -.- he says the Korean to NA server lag is horrible, but says the EU <-> NA lag is playable. get your facts straight X_X Talk about misconstruing the argument. For starters he doesn't play on EU, so he wouldn't know what adel has to go through. Second, even if KR is worse, it doesn't make EU good. If Adel says he has lag then he has lag. The fact he is in EU instead of KR doesn't mean a god damn thing when it comes down to the validity of his point. Idra does play on EU, so do most NA players, it's 100% fine from NA to EU. NA to KR is good as well just ppl seem to lie about the latency for some reason lol
They just need excuses, always someone elses fault =D
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On May 18 2011 11:36 On_Slaught wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2011 11:35 Shellshock1122 wrote:On May 18 2011 11:33 On_Slaught wrote:On May 18 2011 11:30 Whole wrote:On May 18 2011 11:28 On_Slaught wrote:
Idra has bitched about cross-server lag more than ANYBODY in the sc2 community. It is extremely disingenuous for him to completely undermine any lag Adel had.
Talk about hypocrisy. On May 18 2011 11:29 hiawatha wrote:
ironic, because Idra is one of the most vocal progamers complaining about latency problems -.- he says the Korean to NA server lag is horrible, but says the EU <-> NA lag is playable. get your facts straight X_X Talk about misconstruing the argument. For starters he doesn't play on EU, so he wouldn't know what adel has to go through. Second, even if KR is worse, it doesn't make EU good. If Adel says he has lag then he has lag. The fact he is in EU instead of KR doesn't mean a god damn thing when it comes down to the validity of his point. http://sc2ranks.com/eu/1987374/EGIdrAIs this not Idra's EU account? Or is it a fake? What country is Idra living in? Either way it's a moot point if you actually read what I said.
Adel saying he is lagging is moot, either deal with it or get out of cross-nation tourneys.
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On May 18 2011 11:36 On_Slaught wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2011 11:35 Shellshock1122 wrote:On May 18 2011 11:33 On_Slaught wrote:On May 18 2011 11:30 Whole wrote:On May 18 2011 11:28 On_Slaught wrote:
Idra has bitched about cross-server lag more than ANYBODY in the sc2 community. It is extremely disingenuous for him to completely undermine any lag Adel had.
Talk about hypocrisy. On May 18 2011 11:29 hiawatha wrote:
ironic, because Idra is one of the most vocal progamers complaining about latency problems -.- he says the Korean to NA server lag is horrible, but says the EU <-> NA lag is playable. get your facts straight X_X Talk about misconstruing the argument. For starters he doesn't play on EU, so he wouldn't know what adel has to go through. Second, even if KR is worse, it doesn't make EU good. If Adel says he has lag then he has lag. The fact he is in EU instead of KR doesn't mean a god damn thing when it comes down to the validity of his point. http://sc2ranks.com/eu/1987374/EGIdrAIs this not Idra's EU account? Or is it a fake? What country is Idra living in? Either way it's a moot point if you actually read what I said.
Idra is living in the USA as far as I know at the moment.
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I think we should give him the benefit of doubt. Tripple guardian shield into dumb 2 base "timing" push and two games without wall of was probably a lag issue. Same with attacking his own stalker.
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On May 18 2011 11:37 JoeCrow wrote:
wtf? I mean is there any benefit to not walling off? I mean Im seriously scratching my head on this one. Only things I can think of:
-shave off some lost mineral mining time of sending the probe to the ramp.
-mind game of some kind, like inviting an attack when he knows Idra prefers to macro?
?????????????
-look really bad so you can blame high lat
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If adel is lying about his latency that is one thing. However if he actually has lag, then saying "he isn't in KR so he shouldn't have lag" is intellectually insulting.
Only adel knows the truth.
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On May 18 2011 11:36 KawaiiRice wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2011 11:33 On_Slaught wrote:On May 18 2011 11:30 Whole wrote:On May 18 2011 11:28 On_Slaught wrote:
Idra has bitched about cross-server lag more than ANYBODY in the sc2 community. It is extremely disingenuous for him to completely undermine any lag Adel had.
Talk about hypocrisy. On May 18 2011 11:29 hiawatha wrote:
ironic, because Idra is one of the most vocal progamers complaining about latency problems -.- he says the Korean to NA server lag is horrible, but says the EU <-> NA lag is playable. get your facts straight X_X Talk about misconstruing the argument. For starters he doesn't play on EU, so he wouldn't know what adel has to go through. Second, even if KR is worse, it doesn't make EU good. If Adel says he has lag then he has lag. The fact he is in EU instead of KR doesn't mean a god damn thing when it comes down to the validity of his point. Idra does play on EU, so do most NA players, it's 100% fine from NA to EU. NA to KR is good as well just ppl seem to lie about the latency for some reason lol
Happy birthday!
On-topic: Go EG!!
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Adel just need to get a better ISP, thats all. Its not us->eu, or the otherway around. I've seen guys from my own country lag out in a 1vs1 due to a shit connection. Fix your stuff as a progamer.
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On May 18 2011 11:36 KawaiiRice wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2011 11:33 On_Slaught wrote:On May 18 2011 11:30 Whole wrote:On May 18 2011 11:28 On_Slaught wrote:
Idra has bitched about cross-server lag more than ANYBODY in the sc2 community. It is extremely disingenuous for him to completely undermine any lag Adel had.
Talk about hypocrisy. On May 18 2011 11:29 hiawatha wrote:
ironic, because Idra is one of the most vocal progamers complaining about latency problems -.- he says the Korean to NA server lag is horrible, but says the EU <-> NA lag is playable. get your facts straight X_X Talk about misconstruing the argument. For starters he doesn't play on EU, so he wouldn't know what adel has to go through. Second, even if KR is worse, it doesn't make EU good. If Adel says he has lag then he has lag. The fact he is in EU instead of KR doesn't mean a god damn thing when it comes down to the validity of his point. Idra does play on EU, so do most NA players, it's 100% fine from NA to EU. NA to KR is good as well just ppl seem to lie about the latency for some reason lol
-_-? na to kr is horrible, happy bday btw ill buy u a present at mlg ^.^
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Besides, I'm sorry. Lag does not make a blind 3 base lost to a 1 base all in, or when you don't walloff vs a zergling rush
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If EG wins the 2v2 that will be a super fast CW.
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On May 18 2011 11:38 On_Slaught wrote:
If adel is lying about his latency that is one thing. However if he actually has lag, then saying "he isn't in KR so he shouldn't have lag" is intellectually insulting.
Only adel knows the truth.
or maybe adel has shitty internet? no one is saying he is faking lag, we're just saying it isnt the server's fault
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does anyone have a screenshot of adel's bm vs. kawaii last week? or knows the gist of what he said?
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maybe it was brain lag that caused him to not wall in?????? use some logic guys!
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