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Can't wait to see Rain play in this :D
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On June 25 2011 11:09 Mordiford wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2011 19:37 SuitGuy wrote:On June 24 2011 06:20 coL.CatZ wrote:
i dont see how xeris playing the 2v2 even makes a difference, drewbie and I are undefeated anyways, and lets pretend Minigun played Fenix in the Ace match, last showmatch I know of Minigun 4-0'd him Can't argue with that sound logic. o_O I mean, if Minigun 4-0d Fenix before why even play the games at all? I think his point was, people are making it sound like Fnatic had an easy win and threw it away, while in reality, even if Fenix had played instead of Xeris, Minigun has a decent record against him so it wasn't really a throwaway of a won game by Fnatic.
Of course it isn't an easy win for fnatic. But to make the claim that it made ZERO difference whether xeris played or not is an absolute joke, and trying to defend that claim is just shameless imo.
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On June 24 2011 11:36 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2011 11:29 crms wrote:
Why are you sponsoring players with such little care for the game that they will disconnect with no warning, that don't care about showing up or barely play enough to be competitive? All of this speaks to you as a manager and Fnatic as an entity. Have gamers gotten such big heads after some sponsorship they are all divas? Get your team under control. If they want to keep getting free laptops, paid travel and salary (if they do) they have to do their fucking job. Sorry but I really don't get it. Woe is me I suppose where I have to work for the people who pay me.
still not getting the excuse train from fnatic about why they couldn't field a competant roster or have had walkover issues in the past. the only conclusion is they don't think the egmc is a top priority and thats perfectly ok, but just say it. The lame excuses are just that, lame. Sure it's a top priority, it's a $10,000 clan league. We won GCPL, we want to win this one too. People who think we don't take this league seriously must be joking, we didn't get to the playoffs by not taking it seriously... Fnatic takes it very seriously, and I'm hoping we'll be able to win it all 
I'm sorry but I just don't buy that, if it's a top priority your players don't offrace and you don't let a diamond player play the ace match. The excuse that you couldn't find your players is just incredibly weak... you finish the 2v2 knowing that you'll still have to play another game and suddenly noone is available?
All of this just seems so incredibly disrespectful to sixjax, anyways, gl in the playoffs
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Is Rain allowed to play in the playoffs?
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On June 28 2011 00:11 najreteip wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2011 11:36 Xeris wrote:On June 24 2011 11:29 crms wrote:
Why are you sponsoring players with such little care for the game that they will disconnect with no warning, that don't care about showing up or barely play enough to be competitive? All of this speaks to you as a manager and Fnatic as an entity. Have gamers gotten such big heads after some sponsorship they are all divas? Get your team under control. If they want to keep getting free laptops, paid travel and salary (if they do) they have to do their fucking job. Sorry but I really don't get it. Woe is me I suppose where I have to work for the people who pay me.
still not getting the excuse train from fnatic about why they couldn't field a competant roster or have had walkover issues in the past. the only conclusion is they don't think the egmc is a top priority and thats perfectly ok, but just say it. The lame excuses are just that, lame. Sure it's a top priority, it's a $10,000 clan league. We won GCPL, we want to win this one too. People who think we don't take this league seriously must be joking, we didn't get to the playoffs by not taking it seriously... Fnatic takes it very seriously, and I'm hoping we'll be able to win it all I'm sorry but I just don't buy that, if it's a top priority your players don't offrace and you don't let a diamond player play the ace match. The excuse that you couldn't find your players is just incredibly weak... you finish the 2v2 knowing that you'll still have to play another game and suddenly noone is available? All of this just seems so incredibly disrespectful to sixjax, anyways, gl in the playoffs
You do when you're guaranteed a shot at the playoffs regardless and when both the players who offraced won. I would have love to see Fnatic out in full force competing with their top players throughout, I think they could have even won their match against Mouz and it was disappointing to me that they couldn't work out a schedule that allows them to bring their entire line-up more often.
However, what you're saying is kinda dumb, if they can win with what they have, then there's no issue, if they failed to qualify you could say, "You shouldn't have taken the Master's Cup so lightly" or "It clearly wasn't a top priority", but if they're confident they can win with half their team off at pottery class and the other half playing with their feet, and they actually pull it off, then good for them.
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On June 28 2011 01:35 Mordiford wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 00:11 najreteip wrote:On June 24 2011 11:36 Xeris wrote:On June 24 2011 11:29 crms wrote:
Why are you sponsoring players with such little care for the game that they will disconnect with no warning, that don't care about showing up or barely play enough to be competitive? All of this speaks to you as a manager and Fnatic as an entity. Have gamers gotten such big heads after some sponsorship they are all divas? Get your team under control. If they want to keep getting free laptops, paid travel and salary (if they do) they have to do their fucking job. Sorry but I really don't get it. Woe is me I suppose where I have to work for the people who pay me.
still not getting the excuse train from fnatic about why they couldn't field a competant roster or have had walkover issues in the past. the only conclusion is they don't think the egmc is a top priority and thats perfectly ok, but just say it. The lame excuses are just that, lame. Sure it's a top priority, it's a $10,000 clan league. We won GCPL, we want to win this one too. People who think we don't take this league seriously must be joking, we didn't get to the playoffs by not taking it seriously... Fnatic takes it very seriously, and I'm hoping we'll be able to win it all I'm sorry but I just don't buy that, if it's a top priority your players don't offrace and you don't let a diamond player play the ace match. The excuse that you couldn't find your players is just incredibly weak... you finish the 2v2 knowing that you'll still have to play another game and suddenly noone is available? All of this just seems so incredibly disrespectful to sixjax, anyways, gl in the playoffs You do when you're guaranteed a shot at the playoffs regardless and when both the players who offraced won. I would have love to see Fnatic out in full force competing with their top players throughout, I think they could have even won their match against Mouz and it was disappointing to me that they couldn't work out a schedule that allows them to bring their entire line-up more often. However, what you're saying is kinda dumb, if they can win with what they have, then there's no issue, if they failed to qualify you could say, "You shouldn't have taken the Master's Cup so lightly" or "It clearly wasn't a top priority", but if they're confident they can win with half their team off at pottery class and the other half playing with their feet, and they actually pull it off, then good for them.
But they didn't win... My point isn't that they didn't care about qualifying, obviously they did. I just think that by throwing their last game they ruined the chances of another team, which I think is disrespectful.
Also, they couldn't have known that their offrace players would win
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On June 28 2011 02:40 najreteip wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 01:35 Mordiford wrote:On June 28 2011 00:11 najreteip wrote:On June 24 2011 11:36 Xeris wrote:On June 24 2011 11:29 crms wrote:
Why are you sponsoring players with such little care for the game that they will disconnect with no warning, that don't care about showing up or barely play enough to be competitive? All of this speaks to you as a manager and Fnatic as an entity. Have gamers gotten such big heads after some sponsorship they are all divas? Get your team under control. If they want to keep getting free laptops, paid travel and salary (if they do) they have to do their fucking job. Sorry but I really don't get it. Woe is me I suppose where I have to work for the people who pay me.
still not getting the excuse train from fnatic about why they couldn't field a competant roster or have had walkover issues in the past. the only conclusion is they don't think the egmc is a top priority and thats perfectly ok, but just say it. The lame excuses are just that, lame. Sure it's a top priority, it's a $10,000 clan league. We won GCPL, we want to win this one too. People who think we don't take this league seriously must be joking, we didn't get to the playoffs by not taking it seriously... Fnatic takes it very seriously, and I'm hoping we'll be able to win it all I'm sorry but I just don't buy that, if it's a top priority your players don't offrace and you don't let a diamond player play the ace match. The excuse that you couldn't find your players is just incredibly weak... you finish the 2v2 knowing that you'll still have to play another game and suddenly noone is available? All of this just seems so incredibly disrespectful to sixjax, anyways, gl in the playoffs You do when you're guaranteed a shot at the playoffs regardless and when both the players who offraced won. I would have love to see Fnatic out in full force competing with their top players throughout, I think they could have even won their match against Mouz and it was disappointing to me that they couldn't work out a schedule that allows them to bring their entire line-up more often. However, what you're saying is kinda dumb, if they can win with what they have, then there's no issue, if they failed to qualify you could say, "You shouldn't have taken the Master's Cup so lightly" or "It clearly wasn't a top priority", but if they're confident they can win with half their team off at pottery class and the other half playing with their feet, and they actually pull it off, then good for them. But they didn't win... My point isn't that they didn't care about qualifying, obviously they did. I just think that by throwing their last game they ruined the chances of another team, which I think is disrespectful. Also, they couldn't have known that their offrace players would win
The game wasn't thrown, first of all. And secondly, nobody knew the results of Sixjax's last clanwar, so it would be impossible to know what the broader implications of losing to coL were. We only knew that if we won 1 game we were guaranteed for the playoffs regardless of any other score.
You can't look at something in retrospect and then call it a disrespectful act.
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On June 28 2011 02:51 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 02:40 najreteip wrote:On June 28 2011 01:35 Mordiford wrote:On June 28 2011 00:11 najreteip wrote:On June 24 2011 11:36 Xeris wrote:On June 24 2011 11:29 crms wrote:
Why are you sponsoring players with such little care for the game that they will disconnect with no warning, that don't care about showing up or barely play enough to be competitive? All of this speaks to you as a manager and Fnatic as an entity. Have gamers gotten such big heads after some sponsorship they are all divas? Get your team under control. If they want to keep getting free laptops, paid travel and salary (if they do) they have to do their fucking job. Sorry but I really don't get it. Woe is me I suppose where I have to work for the people who pay me.
still not getting the excuse train from fnatic about why they couldn't field a competant roster or have had walkover issues in the past. the only conclusion is they don't think the egmc is a top priority and thats perfectly ok, but just say it. The lame excuses are just that, lame. Sure it's a top priority, it's a $10,000 clan league. We won GCPL, we want to win this one too. People who think we don't take this league seriously must be joking, we didn't get to the playoffs by not taking it seriously... Fnatic takes it very seriously, and I'm hoping we'll be able to win it all I'm sorry but I just don't buy that, if it's a top priority your players don't offrace and you don't let a diamond player play the ace match. The excuse that you couldn't find your players is just incredibly weak... you finish the 2v2 knowing that you'll still have to play another game and suddenly noone is available? All of this just seems so incredibly disrespectful to sixjax, anyways, gl in the playoffs You do when you're guaranteed a shot at the playoffs regardless and when both the players who offraced won. I would have love to see Fnatic out in full force competing with their top players throughout, I think they could have even won their match against Mouz and it was disappointing to me that they couldn't work out a schedule that allows them to bring their entire line-up more often. However, what you're saying is kinda dumb, if they can win with what they have, then there's no issue, if they failed to qualify you could say, "You shouldn't have taken the Master's Cup so lightly" or "It clearly wasn't a top priority", but if they're confident they can win with half their team off at pottery class and the other half playing with their feet, and they actually pull it off, then good for them. But they didn't win... My point isn't that they didn't care about qualifying, obviously they did. I just think that by throwing their last game they ruined the chances of another team, which I think is disrespectful. Also, they couldn't have known that their offrace players would win The game wasn't thrown, first of all. And secondly, nobody knew the results of Sixjax's last clanwar, so it would be impossible to know what the broader implications of losing to coL were. We only knew that if we won 1 game we were guaranteed for the playoffs regardless of any other score. You can't look at something in retrospect and then call it a disrespectful act.
But can you call it respectful to the teams that faced your best lineup?
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On June 28 2011 02:54 najreteip wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 02:51 Xeris wrote:On June 28 2011 02:40 najreteip wrote:On June 28 2011 01:35 Mordiford wrote:On June 28 2011 00:11 najreteip wrote:On June 24 2011 11:36 Xeris wrote:On June 24 2011 11:29 crms wrote:
Why are you sponsoring players with such little care for the game that they will disconnect with no warning, that don't care about showing up or barely play enough to be competitive? All of this speaks to you as a manager and Fnatic as an entity. Have gamers gotten such big heads after some sponsorship they are all divas? Get your team under control. If they want to keep getting free laptops, paid travel and salary (if they do) they have to do their fucking job. Sorry but I really don't get it. Woe is me I suppose where I have to work for the people who pay me.
still not getting the excuse train from fnatic about why they couldn't field a competant roster or have had walkover issues in the past. the only conclusion is they don't think the egmc is a top priority and thats perfectly ok, but just say it. The lame excuses are just that, lame. Sure it's a top priority, it's a $10,000 clan league. We won GCPL, we want to win this one too. People who think we don't take this league seriously must be joking, we didn't get to the playoffs by not taking it seriously... Fnatic takes it very seriously, and I'm hoping we'll be able to win it all I'm sorry but I just don't buy that, if it's a top priority your players don't offrace and you don't let a diamond player play the ace match. The excuse that you couldn't find your players is just incredibly weak... you finish the 2v2 knowing that you'll still have to play another game and suddenly noone is available? All of this just seems so incredibly disrespectful to sixjax, anyways, gl in the playoffs You do when you're guaranteed a shot at the playoffs regardless and when both the players who offraced won. I would have love to see Fnatic out in full force competing with their top players throughout, I think they could have even won their match against Mouz and it was disappointing to me that they couldn't work out a schedule that allows them to bring their entire line-up more often. However, what you're saying is kinda dumb, if they can win with what they have, then there's no issue, if they failed to qualify you could say, "You shouldn't have taken the Master's Cup so lightly" or "It clearly wasn't a top priority", but if they're confident they can win with half their team off at pottery class and the other half playing with their feet, and they actually pull it off, then good for them. But they didn't win... My point isn't that they didn't care about qualifying, obviously they did. I just think that by throwing their last game they ruined the chances of another team, which I think is disrespectful. Also, they couldn't have known that their offrace players would win The game wasn't thrown, first of all. And secondly, nobody knew the results of Sixjax's last clanwar, so it would be impossible to know what the broader implications of losing to coL were. We only knew that if we won 1 game we were guaranteed for the playoffs regardless of any other score. You can't look at something in retrospect and then call it a disrespectful act. But can you call it respectful to the teams that faced your best lineup?
I already explained the circumstances that led to us playing with 3 players. If you don't want to believe it, then I can't do anything to convince you otherwise.
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On June 28 2011 02:56 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 02:54 najreteip wrote:On June 28 2011 02:51 Xeris wrote:On June 28 2011 02:40 najreteip wrote:On June 28 2011 01:35 Mordiford wrote:On June 28 2011 00:11 najreteip wrote:On June 24 2011 11:36 Xeris wrote:On June 24 2011 11:29 crms wrote:
Why are you sponsoring players with such little care for the game that they will disconnect with no warning, that don't care about showing up or barely play enough to be competitive? All of this speaks to you as a manager and Fnatic as an entity. Have gamers gotten such big heads after some sponsorship they are all divas? Get your team under control. If they want to keep getting free laptops, paid travel and salary (if they do) they have to do their fucking job. Sorry but I really don't get it. Woe is me I suppose where I have to work for the people who pay me.
still not getting the excuse train from fnatic about why they couldn't field a competant roster or have had walkover issues in the past. the only conclusion is they don't think the egmc is a top priority and thats perfectly ok, but just say it. The lame excuses are just that, lame. Sure it's a top priority, it's a $10,000 clan league. We won GCPL, we want to win this one too. People who think we don't take this league seriously must be joking, we didn't get to the playoffs by not taking it seriously... Fnatic takes it very seriously, and I'm hoping we'll be able to win it all I'm sorry but I just don't buy that, if it's a top priority your players don't offrace and you don't let a diamond player play the ace match. The excuse that you couldn't find your players is just incredibly weak... you finish the 2v2 knowing that you'll still have to play another game and suddenly noone is available? All of this just seems so incredibly disrespectful to sixjax, anyways, gl in the playoffs You do when you're guaranteed a shot at the playoffs regardless and when both the players who offraced won. I would have love to see Fnatic out in full force competing with their top players throughout, I think they could have even won their match against Mouz and it was disappointing to me that they couldn't work out a schedule that allows them to bring their entire line-up more often. However, what you're saying is kinda dumb, if they can win with what they have, then there's no issue, if they failed to qualify you could say, "You shouldn't have taken the Master's Cup so lightly" or "It clearly wasn't a top priority", but if they're confident they can win with half their team off at pottery class and the other half playing with their feet, and they actually pull it off, then good for them. But they didn't win... My point isn't that they didn't care about qualifying, obviously they did. I just think that by throwing their last game they ruined the chances of another team, which I think is disrespectful. Also, they couldn't have known that their offrace players would win The game wasn't thrown, first of all. And secondly, nobody knew the results of Sixjax's last clanwar, so it would be impossible to know what the broader implications of losing to coL were. We only knew that if we won 1 game we were guaranteed for the playoffs regardless of any other score. You can't look at something in retrospect and then call it a disrespectful act. But can you call it respectful to the teams that faced your best lineup? I already explained the circumstances that led to us playing with 3 players. If you don't want to believe it, then I can't do anything to convince you otherwise.
I just had a hard time believing it all and wanted some clarification.
I hope I didn't offend you or anything, I have nothing but respect for you and your team and the things you do for the community.
Gl in the playoffs
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On June 28 2011 03:01 najreteip wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 02:56 Xeris wrote:On June 28 2011 02:54 najreteip wrote:On June 28 2011 02:51 Xeris wrote:On June 28 2011 02:40 najreteip wrote:On June 28 2011 01:35 Mordiford wrote:On June 28 2011 00:11 najreteip wrote:On June 24 2011 11:36 Xeris wrote:On June 24 2011 11:29 crms wrote:
Why are you sponsoring players with such little care for the game that they will disconnect with no warning, that don't care about showing up or barely play enough to be competitive? All of this speaks to you as a manager and Fnatic as an entity. Have gamers gotten such big heads after some sponsorship they are all divas? Get your team under control. If they want to keep getting free laptops, paid travel and salary (if they do) they have to do their fucking job. Sorry but I really don't get it. Woe is me I suppose where I have to work for the people who pay me.
still not getting the excuse train from fnatic about why they couldn't field a competant roster or have had walkover issues in the past. the only conclusion is they don't think the egmc is a top priority and thats perfectly ok, but just say it. The lame excuses are just that, lame. Sure it's a top priority, it's a $10,000 clan league. We won GCPL, we want to win this one too. People who think we don't take this league seriously must be joking, we didn't get to the playoffs by not taking it seriously... Fnatic takes it very seriously, and I'm hoping we'll be able to win it all I'm sorry but I just don't buy that, if it's a top priority your players don't offrace and you don't let a diamond player play the ace match. The excuse that you couldn't find your players is just incredibly weak... you finish the 2v2 knowing that you'll still have to play another game and suddenly noone is available? All of this just seems so incredibly disrespectful to sixjax, anyways, gl in the playoffs You do when you're guaranteed a shot at the playoffs regardless and when both the players who offraced won. I would have love to see Fnatic out in full force competing with their top players throughout, I think they could have even won their match against Mouz and it was disappointing to me that they couldn't work out a schedule that allows them to bring their entire line-up more often. However, what you're saying is kinda dumb, if they can win with what they have, then there's no issue, if they failed to qualify you could say, "You shouldn't have taken the Master's Cup so lightly" or "It clearly wasn't a top priority", but if they're confident they can win with half their team off at pottery class and the other half playing with their feet, and they actually pull it off, then good for them. But they didn't win... My point isn't that they didn't care about qualifying, obviously they did. I just think that by throwing their last game they ruined the chances of another team, which I think is disrespectful. Also, they couldn't have known that their offrace players would win The game wasn't thrown, first of all. And secondly, nobody knew the results of Sixjax's last clanwar, so it would be impossible to know what the broader implications of losing to coL were. We only knew that if we won 1 game we were guaranteed for the playoffs regardless of any other score. You can't look at something in retrospect and then call it a disrespectful act. But can you call it respectful to the teams that faced your best lineup? I already explained the circumstances that led to us playing with 3 players. If you don't want to believe it, then I can't do anything to convince you otherwise. I just had a hard time believing it all and wanted some clarification. I hope I didn't offend you or anything, I have nothing but respect for you and your team and the things you do for the community. Gl in the playoffs
It's alright, thanks!
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EG not making their own tournament playoffs? Ouch. Time to inject some new blood into the lineup? Most of the other teams strengthened their lineup in the last couple months (in fact, only Millenium, Dignitas and EG didn't).
Looking forward to the playoffs. Mousesports looking like the team to beat, but Dignitas and fnatic also have the lineup to take this. Complexity with outside chances.
On June 23 2011 13:54 Sadistx wrote:Great writeup, This situation isn't likely to repeat itself in the near future. It sucks that the stars lined up to screw over Sixjax this one time, but I'm sure next season they can get a top2 spot.
Great writeup indeed.
That's the perfect mindset to have. Look at the most unfortunate of situations, but assess what you could have done better, and improve upon that. That's the way winners handle matters like that.
Huge respect to evoli and sixjax.
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Updated OP with Finals Weekend info.
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Series A Loser vs. Series B Loser (Winner goes to Series C) - July 2 18:00 EDT (Casters: djWHEAT & IdrA)
Series A Winner vs. Series B Winner (Loser goes to Series D) - July 3 12:00 EDT (Casters: djWHEAT & IdrA)
Series C Winner vs. Series D Loser - July 3 15:00 EDT (Casters: djWHEAT & IdrA)
Grand Finals (Winner of Series D picks all 4 starting maps from official MCSL map pool) - July 3 18:00 EDT (Casters: djWHEAT & IdrA)
Can you reword this because its incredibly ambiguous. Depending on what you meant to write I get the impression that in the Grand Finals the winner of series of D should be at a disadvantage not an advantage.
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is this live or recorded with live cast ?
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I would hope it's live since it starts sooner than usually
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I wonder how many potential fans Fnatic alienated with this shitty move, it's getting harder and harder to like that team. Sen deserves better tbh.
In the end I hope it was worth it.
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Rain said he already played his game, so its not live.
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On July 02 2011 11:49 TMOUllrich wrote:Show nested quote +
Series A Loser vs. Series B Loser (Winner goes to Series C) - July 2 18:00 EDT (Casters: djWHEAT & IdrA)
Series A Winner vs. Series B Winner (Loser goes to Series D) - July 3 12:00 EDT (Casters: djWHEAT & IdrA)
Series C Winner vs. Series D Loser - July 3 15:00 EDT (Casters: djWHEAT & IdrA)
Grand Finals (Winner of Series D picks all 4 starting maps from official MCSL map pool) - July 3 18:00 EDT (Casters: djWHEAT & IdrA)
Can you reword this because its incredibly ambiguous. Depending on what you meant to write I get the impression that in the Grand Finals the winner of series of D should be at a disadvantage not an advantage.
It's a double elimination bracket where winners bracket advantage is map choice.
edit: nvm, he edited OP i guess.
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