[GSL] Up & Down groups. - Page 21

MVP_Keen vs. TSL_Trickster

Keen revealed some of his high level play in the Code A semi finals and wasn't much to disappoint. He seems to be a strong up and coming terran with some serious potential. He really does seem to lack some confidence in longer macro games, willing to base trade and often losing confidence in his macro.

Trickster in his group play managed to crush one of the best Terrans in the business of TvP, oGs Ensnare, and to make it worse for Keen, it was a very one sided macro game. Trickster then got knocked in double PvP's, a still volatile match up.

Keen has some work cut out for him if he hopes to take Trickster out of Code S and I can't really see it happening. It's Trickster's game to lose, and he likes him some cheese every once in a while, but if the game goes macro I really think that Trickster has it.

Loser vs. NSHoSeo_san

(Assuming Keen) San did lose to the unorthadox play of Liquid'Jinro in his group play, and seems to be vulnerable to unpredictable play like that. Keen will likely be doing something unpredictable going by his code A games. San also lost to the standard play of TSL_Clide, the high temp nerf really hurting his style of the matchup. San seems to be really having issues with the matchup right now, and Keen has a legitimate chance of taking San's spot from him.

(Assuming Trickster) There are no recent tournament results from San regarding his PvP, but he lost to White-ra in the World Championship and Trickster's PvP does seem to be a little bit better than White-ra's when directly compared. Trickster lost to the Protoss who went on to the round of 8 so skill in the matchup is difficult to predict, honestly this is a tossup, just as the matchup is.

ZeNEXCoCa vs. Liquid'Jinro

All that needs to be said is that Jinro is going to roll this whole series, obviously. But on a more serious note: Keen managed to beat CoCa in the round of 8 using some big drop play into standard marine tank thor play, from what I've seen of Jinro's play, this is a similar style to what he likes to do. I personally am more impressed by Jinro's execution of the same style as Keen, and think that on paper Jinro should have this, but anything can happen.

Loser vs. Zenio

(Assuming Jinro) Zenio showed some sick play against Nada in his group play, and if Jinro tries to go standard play, Zenio has a good chance of winning. Zenio then lost against MarineKing in some very non standard play. Again, the only thing guarenteed in this matchup is that it will be close. Zenio and Jinro probably play a standard game at about the same level TvZ and it will be one to watch.

(Assuming CoCa) With Coca, there are no recent ZvZs to judge skill by, similarly, there are few games of Zenio, but from what I remember, Zenio has a pretty good standing in the matchup. Zenio hasn't played a ZvZ in GSL since before March (due to Idra dropping out). Really this matchup is a complete tossup, but just going on pure reputation, Zenio probably has a better chance, but there are no real grounds to prove that.

TSL_Alive vs. ZeNEXByun

Alive managed to beat Boxer in a pretty standard TvT in his code A play and seems to show some pretty uncreative, but solid marine tank viking play. Boxer is pretty beastly at micro and creative Terran play, but Alive was able to shut it all down and come out ahead through pure solid play. ZeNEX Byun got knocked out of his all Terran group and didn't demonstrate truly great play. That being said his group was against a lot of very skilled terran's such as Top and Sc. Byun seems to have some issues once the game goes past 2 base play. Judging purely by performance this season, I wouldn't be surprised if Alive beat Byun.

Loser vs. CheckPrime.WE

Check hasn't played a TvZ this season but will no doubt have prepared for either of these terrans. Similarly, neither terran has played a TvZ this season, so I'm forced to go purely on reputation, which makes me think CheckPrime has an edge. If the game goes macro against either of these players, Check seems to be stronger, but in short games, the other two players in this group seem to have some incredibly strong timing push oriented style.

SlayerS_Ryung vs. oGsMC

MC seems to be cursed against PoltPrime, going 0-4 against him so far. MC seems to go for super greedy play against terrans as of late, I'm sure he's changed his style since his group play back to his incredibly strong timing push style. An interesting note on MC is that from what I've noticed if his timing attack doesn't work he seems to fall very far behind for the rest of the game. Ryung has the incredibly solid SlayerS clan style of TvP, making him predictable, but not any less scary. I did a write up on the SlayerS style here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=215454 I wouldn't be surprised to see Ryung use this same opening. CreatorPrime, who was Ryung's protoss opponent in the Code A never really pressured Ryung all game long and Ryung never did any special against him. I think that MC's timing oriented play will be able to crush through Ryung as long as MC doesn't take too many risks.

Loser vs. HongUnPrime.WE

(assuming Ryung) This match will be close, this is because Ryung plays a pretty solid macro TvP while HongUn plays a pretty solid macro TvP but throws in some cheeses from time to time. HongUn doesn't have a TvP from this season so I'm unsure about its current success, but from past games he seems to be solid, and due to pure reputation I'd have to give an edge to HongUn.

SlayerS_MMA vs. MarineKingPrime.WE

MMA played against oGsTop and ST_Bomber in his path to the up down matches, and he has a lot of pressure and expectations to make his way up to code S. From MMA's five games played before this match, his biggest strength seems to be macro and his weakness seems to be positioning. He often engages, or finds his army out of position and loses that way but usually has more than his opponent economically and army size. MarineKing is the King of positioning in this matchup and he will abuse anything that is miss placed. This game will likely be close due to the nature of the players, MMA will have more but MarineKing will be more abusive of positioning. I would expect MarineKing to win due to that positioning factor and because if he can abuse Nada's very meticulous positioning, than he can probably abuse MMA's.

Loser vs. Liquid'Huk

Both terrans in this group play a similar style TvP, the Prime and oGs guys tend to no gas expand while the SlayerS guys get a fast reactor and get faster drops. This style means that Huk should be prepared for both styles, more so for MMA as he tends to cheese a lot less. Huk has a tough time going into this, both of these guys play a solid, standard TvP. Huk at least doesn't need to worry about non standard unit compositions from these guys like he does against someone like Thorzain or Jinro. A lot of people are counting Huk out of this one, but if he's been preparing for standard, drop heavy, terran play, than he has a good chance of making it out alive.

MVP_Violet vs. ZeNEX Kyrix
Well, Kyrix cheesed Losira twice ZvZ, showing his confidence in the matchup. Violet managed to beat Ace, illustrating his overall skill. Violet's games vs. SlayerS_Yugioh were both 20+ minute macro ZvZ's that he won convincingly, judging purely on GSL play, Violet has a big edge over Kyrix who seems to lack confidence in the matchup.

Loser vs. oGsTheWind

The Wind has no games played ZvZ this season and so there are no recent tournament results to go by. From memory he seems to be solid in the matchup and has a good chance against either player. The Wind has a reputation of being a very solid Zerg, more so than Violet and especially Kyrix.
Assuming Kyrix: Win for the wind
Assuming Violet: Small edge to The Wind

IMMvp vs. TSL_Rain

I'm almost certain that Mvp is banking on beating Rain to secure back his code S position. Mvp just got finished with his second place finish in Code A, losing by one game to Bomber and dominating Keen in the semifinals. Mvp has a well practiced TvT from code A while Rain hasn't played a TvT this season. The safe choice is Mvp, but Mvp does tend to under react to aggressive infantry builds, so if the cheese factory is back open for business, he could lose.

Loser vs. ST_Rainbow

A lot of people will immediately assume the Rainbow would win over Rain; however, Rainbow was coming out of a group of all terrans and was just purely out played in each game. This game will be a lot closer than expected…well unless it's Mvp: who has no real business losing either of these matches.

ST_Bomber vs. FoxLyn

Interestingly, Bomber chose an all terran group like Mvp, both players are, and deserve to be, confident in TvT. Lyn didn't play a TvT at all this season and so naturally any sane person has to assume that Bomber will take this match. Bomber is coming off a hot streak of great TvT play, and no one should expect Lyn to take this series off of him.

Loser vs. oGs Ensnare

Assuming Lyn: This match has potential to be very close. Lyn hasn't played TvT in a while so there's potential for an upset, but based on pure reputation Ensnare has an edge. Neither player is spectacular at the matchup from past games, but both are definitely good enough to entertain.

Assuming Bomber: bomber seems to play a lot tighter TvT then ST_Virus who Ensnare lost to, going by this GSL alone, I have to give Bomber an edge, his TvT is looking very strong. Ensnare lost to some pretty basic drop play, and against Bomber's well planned positioning and drop play, he should take the win.

Group A: Keen vs. Trickster: both of these guys want code S and neither wants to face San. Both like macro games and should give some good ones.

Group B: Loser vs. Zenio if it's Jinro, but. Well. Basically Jinro. We all have to root for our Swedish hero and he has a very good chance to make it out of the group with his solid TvZ style. His best chance is against CoCa so best of luck.

Group C: Loser vs. CheckPrime: Neither Terran seems particularly dominant at TvT so the TvZ should be more exciting

Group D: Ryung vs. MC: MC should debut some very strong timing attacks and it will be interesting to see if Ryung is skilled enough to hold them.

Group E: The whole damn thing: MMA vs. MarineKing will be very close, with MMA having superior macro and MarineKing having superior game sense. Also Loser vs. Huk will be very good, as both terrans play similar styles so Huk should be well prepared.

Group F: Loser vs. TheWind. Kyrix plays a very cheesy ZvZ and doesn't seem confident in the matchup, if the matchup is Violet vs. TheWind, the game should be a very exciting macro ZvZ

Group G: Mvp vs. Rain, I'll be surprised if Rain doesn't cheese just because Mvp has proven to still be a beast of the matchup. The one sided roflstomps are usually the best games to learn from, so this should be good.

Group H: Bomber vs. Lyn, for the same reasons as group G

i saw game one of HuK vs MMA (think HuK played pretty well, not sure why he didnt pull probes earlier though. He knew it was an all in from MMA he was obviously gonna have the economic lead. I feel like he could have won a bit earlier if he had probes in too.

Does anyone know the final result? i only got to see game 1

HuK won.

did he 2-0 him?

so that means huk and mvp in code s?

still love to see idra there tbh