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[IPL] Week 2 Day 4 - Grand Final - IdrA v KiWiKaKi - Page 44

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Do not caster bash.
ArghUScaredMe
Profile Joined July 2010
United States712 Posts
May 02 2011 01:21 GMT
#861
Someone wrote "InCholesterol" in chat and I just died.
TheLight
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia410 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 01:21:46
May 02 2011 01:21 GMT
#862
Why did IGN put an old Incontrol interview after the grand final? It makes no sense. If anything, it should be an idra interview.
A marine walks into a bar and asks: Where's the counter?
Deindar
Profile Joined May 2010
United States302 Posts
May 02 2011 01:21 GMT
#863
Ya, I think I would have liked a winner's interview. I mean, IdrA's pretty involved in the community, so you'd think he'd be totally up to a short interview. In any case, wonderful tournament and all the props in the world to IdrA!!
EG|Liquid|QxG|DTG fighting!
VoirDire
Profile Joined February 2009
Sweden1923 Posts
May 02 2011 01:21 GMT
#864
On May 02 2011 10:19 Mailing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 10:17 MrBitter wrote:
o.O

Yay Grack!

I totally called this playstyle developing a few months ago:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=203336



His drops did nothing. Getting 5 bases and keeping kiwi off a 4th won him the game.

After the drops failed, kiwi a-moved his army into idras creep and lost all his stalkers/colossus to roach hydra, and was in a basically un-winnable position from there. After losing so many units he could not defend all his bases, but that was his fault for attacking too early and not idra baiting it.

Maybe the last game, but the drops basically won him the game on shakuras.
ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
May 02 2011 01:21 GMT
#865
Grats idra and props to IPL for a great first season.
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 01:21:40
May 02 2011 01:21 GMT
#866
On May 02 2011 10:20 Karthane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 10:19 Mailing wrote:
On May 02 2011 10:17 MrBitter wrote:
o.O

Yay Grack!

I totally called this playstyle developing a few months ago:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=203336



His drops did nothing. Getting 5 bases and keeping kiwi off a 4th won him the game.

After the drops failed, kiwi a-moved his army into idras creep and lost all his stalkers/colossus to roach hydra, and was in a basically un-winnable position from there. After losing so many units he could not defend all his bases, but that was his fault for attacking too early and not idra baiting it.


His drops did nothing? Did you watch these games?


Obviously I meant game 5, where they in fact, did nothing.
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dofz
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway98 Posts
May 02 2011 01:21 GMT
#867
On May 02 2011 10:17 LEEKsc wrote:
highest apm ive seen coming out of idra in SC2, just showing whats doable with Z!



They've changed the APM into real APM and not sc2 apm, or that's what seems logical over the past few days of games that I've seen aswell as when they put up the average apm tabs in game 3 u could see it was average about 180 sc2 before game ended then average was shown as something around 250.

Wish we could've had an interview with idra, but lovely tournament thank you so much!
"I'm good at everything" Brett Hull
Fighter
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1531 Posts
May 02 2011 01:21 GMT
#868
?? Why the InControl interview? Why not Idra? I don't get it ign :p

Btw great tournament! I loved the style and presentation of the whole thing. As many people have said the only REAL downside was the player pool, but I think it was mainly such a small pool because this was a bit of a test run?

Anyways, can't wait for the next season of IPL :D
For Aiur???
DNA61289
Profile Joined August 2010
United States665 Posts
May 02 2011 01:21 GMT
#869
Nice comeback Idra, it's good to see some more aggressive play.
But yeah being a Korean gamer is very imba. If you're a non-korean gamer you have to balance your game playing with earning money and your real life. If you're Korean you just sit around playing games all day eating 2 cent ramyun and becoming gosu.
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
May 02 2011 01:21 GMT
#870
A wild Incontrol interview appears!
Tschis
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil1511 Posts
May 02 2011 01:22 GMT
#871
On May 02 2011 10:21 Mailing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 10:20 Karthane wrote:
On May 02 2011 10:19 Mailing wrote:
On May 02 2011 10:17 MrBitter wrote:
o.O

Yay Grack!

I totally called this playstyle developing a few months ago:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=203336



His drops did nothing. Getting 5 bases and keeping kiwi off a 4th won him the game.

After the drops failed, kiwi a-moved his army into idras creep and lost all his stalkers/colossus to roach hydra, and was in a basically un-winnable position from there. After losing so many units he could not defend all his bases, but that was his fault for attacking too early and not idra baiting it.


His drops did nothing? Did you watch these games?


Obviously I meant game 5, where they in fact, did nothing.


Keep telling yourself that =/
"A coward is not someone that runs from a battle knowing he will lose. A coward is someone who challenges a weak knowing he will win."
Oreo7
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1647 Posts
May 02 2011 01:22 GMT
#872
Good job Idra, once again proving you are the best foreign zerg and maybe player. Grats.
Stork HerO and Protoss everywhere - redfive on bnet
Nethermind
Profile Joined April 2011
New Zealand445 Posts
May 02 2011 01:22 GMT
#873
Great production IGN. As a result, I'll be keenly looking forward to the next. At that level of production, I'd be willing to pay for it too.

The only negative for me was the quality of the cast, but I appreciate not everyone has my tastes.

Grats IdrA and Kiwi; good finals!
Alex.IGN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1050 Posts
May 02 2011 01:22 GMT
#874
Poll: Would you recommend Game 5?

Yes! (89)
 
89%

No! (8)
 
8%

If you have time, it was alright (3)
 
3%

100 total votes

Your vote: Would you recommend Game 5?

(Vote): Yes!
(Vote): No!
(Vote): If you have time, it was alright

IGN eSports StarCraft 2 Division Manager
Slakter
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden1947 Posts
May 02 2011 01:22 GMT
#875
On May 02 2011 10:20 Aquafresh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 10:15 Staboteur wrote:
The Sauron Zerg references seem inappropriate. From what I understand, selecting all your hatcheries, holding a single key, and setting a single rally isn't anywhere near as impressive as I hear it was managing a ton of hatcheries in Brood War.

I mean, dropping the reference is sexy and all, but it almost seems like an insult to the few that could do it in Brood War.


Yeah rallying in Roaches from 4 hatches on 4 bases is in no way comparable to Sauron Zerg. Unfortunately casters and fans alike have referred to just about every situation where the Zerg has a bunch of reinforcements rallied in the general direction of his opponent as "Sauron Zerg" since about 2005.

For further reading see "Building a pylon at your natural = Bisu build" and "I saw a Goliath! = Fantasy build"

Lol, I remember when every fast-expand was a Bisu build <3

You cant really Sauron in SC2 unfortunately
Protoss, can't live with em', can't kill em'.
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
May 02 2011 01:22 GMT
#876
i wonder if they invited idra to do the IGN studio for the whole intro + interview thing but he refused.
Clog
Profile Joined January 2011
United States950 Posts
May 02 2011 01:23 GMT
#877
On May 02 2011 10:20 Karthane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 10:19 Mailing wrote:
On May 02 2011 10:17 MrBitter wrote:
o.O

Yay Grack!

I totally called this playstyle developing a few months ago:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=203336



His drops did nothing. Getting 5 bases and keeping kiwi off a 4th won him the game.

After the drops failed, kiwi a-moved his army into idras creep and lost all his stalkers/colossus to roach hydra, and was in a basically un-winnable position from there. After losing so many units he could not defend all his bases, but that was his fault for attacking too early and not idra baiting it.


His drops did nothing? Did you watch these games?


Did you? They didn't do crap in game 5. That was Kiwikaki's game to win until he decided to throw his army at Idra's fourth after losing every single sentry
NesTea | LosirA | MVP | CoCa | Nada | Ryung | DRG | YongHwa
Alex.IGN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1050 Posts
May 02 2011 01:23 GMT
#878
On May 02 2011 10:22 dtz wrote:
i wonder if they invited idra to do the IGN studio for the whole intro + interview thing but he refused.


He was busy that weekend unfortunately!
IGN eSports StarCraft 2 Division Manager
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
May 02 2011 01:23 GMT
#879
Absolutely dominant play by IdrA (after the first two games). He was playing so beastly in this entire tournament. It seems like he might have figured out a style of ZvP that he's comfortable with. I'm excited to see more of this level of play from him in the future.
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
May 02 2011 01:23 GMT
#880
On May 02 2011 10:21 Mailing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 10:20 Karthane wrote:
On May 02 2011 10:19 Mailing wrote:
On May 02 2011 10:17 MrBitter wrote:
o.O

Yay Grack!

I totally called this playstyle developing a few months ago:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=203336



His drops did nothing. Getting 5 bases and keeping kiwi off a 4th won him the game.

After the drops failed, kiwi a-moved his army into idras creep and lost all his stalkers/colossus to roach hydra, and was in a basically un-winnable position from there. After losing so many units he could not defend all his bases, but that was his fault for attacking too early and not idra baiting it.


His drops did nothing? Did you watch these games?


Obviously I meant game 5, where they in fact, did nothing.


They did, people really underestimate the effects drops have and how they can split an already very immobile protoss army and keep them defensive/make them invest in more static defence.
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