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On June 12 2011 15:44 Azarkon wrote:Hope you're not suggesting Tyler sucks  If this were a Bo3, XiaoT would be in a similar position to Tyler, which is about right from what I've seen of his PvP. His PvZ seems to be better, though, and from what I saw of his PvT in the MKP match it's at least as good. As far as foreigners go, I'd put XiaoT somewhere around Socke and Naniwa.
Well you can't say Tyler is hot shit either, xiaOt is definitely not at the level of Tyler :') First you rate him around a level of Tyler, then moments after you rate him equal to the best foreign protoss player. You sir, make no sense.
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probably MC will take this easy 4-1. Not easy to beat this guy right now when he's back to practice in good shape. This kid makes more moneys than any guys in the world right now 
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On June 12 2011 15:53 whersmyspacebar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 15:44 Azarkon wrote:Hope you're not suggesting Tyler sucks If this were a Bo3, XiaoT would be in a similar position to Tyler, which is about right from what I've seen of his PvP. His PvZ seems to be better, though, and from what I saw of his PvT in the MKP match it's at least as good. As far as foreigners go, I'd put XiaoT somewhere around Socke and Naniwa. Well you can't say Tyler is hot shit either, xiaOt is definitely not at the level of Tyler :') First you rate him around a level of Tyler, then moments after you rate him equal to the best foreign protoss player. You sir, make no sense.
I rate him as a better PvZer than Tyler, and probably a better PvTer. Whether that puts him at the level of Socke and Naniwa depends on how highly you rate Tyler and how highly you rate Socke and Naniwa. Personally, the difference between Tyler and other top foreign Protoss players isn't that great in PvP, and with good preparation I think Tyler can hang with the best.
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On June 12 2011 16:02 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 15:53 whersmyspacebar wrote:On June 12 2011 15:44 Azarkon wrote:Hope you're not suggesting Tyler sucks If this were a Bo3, XiaoT would be in a similar position to Tyler, which is about right from what I've seen of his PvP. His PvZ seems to be better, though, and from what I saw of his PvT in the MKP match it's at least as good. As far as foreigners go, I'd put XiaoT somewhere around Socke and Naniwa. Well you can't say Tyler is hot shit either, xiaOt is definitely not at the level of Tyler :') First you rate him around a level of Tyler, then moments after you rate him equal to the best foreign protoss player. You sir, make no sense. I rate him as a better PvZer than Tyler, and probably a better PvTer. Whether that puts him at the level of Socke and Naniwa depends on how highly you rate Tyler and how highly you rate Socke and Naniwa. Personally, the difference between Tyler and other top foreign Protoss players isn't that great in PvP, and with good preparation I think Tyler can hang with the best.
I think you misunderstood my post, I rate him far above Tyler on every PvX matchup. And I rate naniwa (much) higher then Tyler
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Just got done watching MC vs Xiaot and wow, this guy deserves to be called KraToss.
It is almost like chinese server is still playing 1.2 patch. 4 straight 4 gate into blink Xiaot? Really?
Put that in contrast with MC going 3 gate robo, dt -> archon bust, then modified defensive 4 gate. That series was a seminar on how to stop 4 gate. Beautiful play.
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On June 12 2011 16:23 nokz88 wrote:
Just got done watching MC vs Xiaot and wow, this guy deserves to be called KraToss.
It is almost like chinese server is still playing 1.2 patch. 4 straight 4 gate into blink Xiaot? Really?
Put that in contrast with MC going 3 gate robo, dt -> archon bust, then modified defensive 4 gate. That series was a seminar on how to stop 4 gate. Beautiful play.
VODs are online? Where?
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On June 12 2011 16:24 whersmyspacebar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 16:23 nokz88 wrote:
Just got done watching MC vs Xiaot and wow, this guy deserves to be called KraToss.
It is almost like chinese server is still playing 1.2 patch. 4 straight 4 gate into blink Xiaot? Really?
Put that in contrast with MC going 3 gate robo, dt -> archon bust, then modified defensive 4 gate. That series was a seminar on how to stop 4 gate. Beautiful play. VODs are online? Where?
http://www.justin.tv/iccuptv/b/287827240
Skip to 1:20:00
I don't know why but for me it lagged like crazy. I had to buffer for like 30 minutes before I could watch it. Still, a treat to watch if you are a MC fan ^^
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One of the mods on the stream said it should switch to SC 2 in 90 minutes. Is that normal? The calender says otherwise.
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sc2 doesnt start for a while
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Is there a reliable schedule anywhere? Would be nice to know if I should be staying up or not =(
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its not starting for another hour at least
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Damn, I want it to start now!
/entitledness.
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The finals is probably starting any moment now!
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On June 12 2011 15:41 AndAgain wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 15:31 Caesarion wrote:On June 12 2011 15:05 TopOgi wrote:
azakon as much as ud like mc to win the tourny, hell have to sweat a lot to do so. Love and xiaot are insanely good. i am pretty sure the latters micro is better than mcs. expect close series mc vs xiaot in finals. Hasn't MC already beaten XiaoT in the semis yesterday, outmicro-ing and outplaying him too. You can't deduce any sense of relative skill from PvP. Even Tyler almost took a BO3 off of MC (sorry, had to go there.)
Ofcourse you can get a sense of relative skill from a PvP.
It just uses different skills than the other matchups. With a focus on Micro, luck and being adaptable.
In a BO5 the better player will win 90% of the time.
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Hey was the 3rd/4th match played and casted? If so has it already finished? What were the results?
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On June 12 2011 17:08 Rarak wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 15:41 AndAgain wrote:On June 12 2011 15:31 Caesarion wrote:On June 12 2011 15:05 TopOgi wrote:
azakon as much as ud like mc to win the tourny, hell have to sweat a lot to do so. Love and xiaot are insanely good. i am pretty sure the latters micro is better than mcs. expect close series mc vs xiaot in finals. Hasn't MC already beaten XiaoT in the semis yesterday, outmicro-ing and outplaying him too. You can't deduce any sense of relative skill from PvP. Even Tyler almost took a BO3 off of MC (sorry, had to go there.) Ofcourse you can get a sense of relative skill from a PvP. It just uses different skills than the other matchups. With a focus on Micro, luck and being adaptable. In a BO5 the better player will win 90% of the time.
There is skill required for PvP. The skillset required, however, is quite a bit different from the skillset required for non mirror matchups.
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As if LoL wasn't already a joke of a game, they're showing gold-level LoL play = =
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This is worse than MLG Dallas. Lol
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EPT
