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Yesterday's broadcast has had its issues. We all saw it. There are 10+ pages of whining. There is an entirely new cast going on now. Please keep whining about issues experienced yesterday to yourself going forward in the thread and allow other people to enjoy the games.
LedFarmer
Profile Joined October 2010
United States161 Posts
April 18 2011 18:07 GMT
#3081
On April 19 2011 03:02 Titorelli wrote:
LOL what douchebag Tyler is.... Being f-ing overrated and bad and BMing on top of that cause he lost due to being bad.... +1 Tyler anti-fan


First off Tyler is in no way a "douchebag" and he wasn't trying to BM Mana he was asking a question because he thought that they were playing on the wrong version of that map. He waited from for a response from most likely a referee, and didn't get one, hence what he said.

He left Mana with the GG.

Also Tyler isn't "overrated" or "bad", he has been in a slump as of late as all the Liquid guys have been. He is also a player that refines his builds so much, that the fact that 1 FF can block a ramp versus 2 FF is game changing, as we saw in Game 2.

Try to analyze what happened instead of acting like a schoolyard punk.
I don't read the script. The script reads me.
nRoot
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany928 Posts
April 18 2011 18:08 GMT
#3082
On April 19 2011 03:06 razy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2011 03:06 nRoot wrote:
Stream is running good so far but the sound quality is really bad somehow, gamesounds is too quiet

Not even the SC1 terran feels right :<


click the 480p button

I have, I tried 240p/360p too but didn't notice any difference (?)
Provocateur
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1665 Posts
April 18 2011 18:08 GMT
#3083
Agreed. All the different versions with small tweaks to the standard map are really causing confusion. Tournaments need to state exactly which version of the map is going to be played, I'm sure Tyler prepared his build meticulously for Crevasse with the standard ramp. It's sad but these things happen.
Weson
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Iceland1032 Posts
April 18 2011 18:09 GMT
#3084
I dont think tyler was mad at Mana i think he tried to get hold of the referees why the ramps were so small, when he didnt get any response from the referees he gets mad at them. You cant get mad at a opponent for you not knowing what version of the map you are playing.
"!@€#" - as some guy said
weaknurse
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia320 Posts
April 18 2011 18:09 GMT
#3085
Tyler had a right to be furious. I commend his passion.
Samhax
Profile Joined August 2010
1054 Posts
April 18 2011 18:10 GMT
#3086
There are thousands of version of each map (shakuras, crevasse, taldarim, etc.). Seriously they need to tell what map they choose to the players and spec and why they choose this maps. They need to fix it asap. Tyler not knowing which version they choose is ridiculous...
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
April 18 2011 18:10 GMT
#3087
Tyler noticed sometime during the game that the map was altered in a way that affected his gameplay, he asked the refs about it but they didn't respond so he got upset they didn't answer him. He never said anything bad to or about Mana.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
bashalisk
Profile Joined September 2010
102 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-18 18:16:00
April 18 2011 18:11 GMT
#3088
On April 18 2011 11:04 Telcontar wrote:
Tyler's always been a bad loser so it shouldn't come as a surprise.


As far as I'm concerned, he's got every right to be angry. The fact that every league out there now has their own stupid subtle changes in every map is taking the quality of the leagues back to pre-Lost-Temple SC matchmaking.
Kamate
Profile Joined May 2010
Romania580 Posts
April 18 2011 18:11 GMT
#3089
Thanks for the clarifications about the map and Tyler's comments, guys
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
April 18 2011 18:11 GMT
#3090
The games are not in the same order as US cast ? yesterday tuned in for pain vs cloud and boxer vs drewbie (last 2 series of the night) and now painuser is before sen vs zenio
Don't have the courage to rewatch that serie waiting for sen vs zenio, good night guys =)
phisku
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Belgium864 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-18 18:12:21
April 18 2011 18:12 GMT
#3091
Okay we get it but the fact to do it in the main in game chat was a little bit confusing.
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-18 18:17:16
April 18 2011 18:14 GMT
#3092
On April 19 2011 03:07 LedFarmer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2011 03:02 Titorelli wrote:
LOL what douchebag Tyler is.... Being f-ing overrated and bad and BMing on top of that cause he lost due to being bad.... +1 Tyler anti-fan


He left Mana with the GG.

Also Tyler isn't "overrated" or "bad", he has been in a slump as of late as all the Liquid guys have been. He is also a player that refines his builds so much, that the fact that 1 FF can block a ramp versus 2 FF is game changing, as we saw in Game 2.

Try to analyze what happened instead of acting like a schoolyard punk.


Pls, Tyler is most definitely overrated. Ppl just like him because of his SC1 career.

What has he won in sc2 so far ? Nothing. For him to be "slumping" he first had to win something.
oYsteR
Profile Joined April 2008
United Kingdom142 Posts
April 18 2011 18:14 GMT
#3093
What on earth is wrong with the music in NASL? How hard is it to just use the normal SC2 music? First nothing, then unrelated music (way worse than silence) and now they've got the wrong game? Jeez.

Don't get me wrong, SC1 music, esp the terran theme, is fantastic and incredibly evocative and atmospheric...but for SC1.

Anyway, excited to see Cloud play.
vrok
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden2541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-18 18:18:29
April 18 2011 18:14 GMT
#3094
Just checked in and wanted to mention that this is the first time that the EU rebroadcast hasn't been extremely laggy and unwatchable for me.

Also, game sounds are way, way too low. Even lower than usual, which is already too low.
"Starcraft 2 very easy game" - White-Ra
Titorelli
Profile Joined March 2011
2492 Posts
April 18 2011 18:15 GMT
#3095
On April 19 2011 03:07 LedFarmer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2011 03:02 Titorelli wrote:
LOL what douchebag Tyler is.... Being f-ing overrated and bad and BMing on top of that cause he lost due to being bad.... +1 Tyler anti-fan


First off Tyler is in no way a "douchebag" and he wasn't trying to BM Mana he was asking a question because he thought that they were playing on the wrong version of that map. He waited from for a response from most likely a referee, and didn't get one, hence what he said.

He left Mana with the GG.

Also Tyler isn't "overrated" or "bad", he has been in a slump as of late as all the Liquid guys have been. He is also a player that refines his builds so much, that the fact that 1 FF can block a ramp versus 2 FF is game changing, as we saw in Game 2.

Try to analyze what happened instead of acting like a schoolyard punk.


Yes lol, VERY professional and rational behaviour by Tyler. What did he expect the referee to do? Answer like "oh yeah, we were wrong, let's replay the game" or rather "oh sorry, we stated a couple of weeks ago that we are using these maps, but for you we make an exception" ? :D
"Everybody poops.... after Tasteless kills them" Artosis
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
April 18 2011 18:16 GMT
#3096
On April 19 2011 03:11 MrCon wrote:
The games are not in the same order as US cast ? yesterday tuned in for pain vs cloud and boxer vs drewbie (last 2 series of the night) and now painuser is before sen vs zenio
Don't have the courage to rewatch that serie waiting for sen vs zenio, good night guys =)

Going to sleep at 8:15 waaaaaaaaa? Stay up that bit longer .
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
bashalisk
Profile Joined September 2010
102 Posts
April 18 2011 18:17 GMT
#3097
On April 19 2011 03:15 Titorelli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2011 03:07 LedFarmer wrote:
On April 19 2011 03:02 Titorelli wrote:
LOL what douchebag Tyler is.... Being f-ing overrated and bad and BMing on top of that cause he lost due to being bad.... +1 Tyler anti-fan


First off Tyler is in no way a "douchebag" and he wasn't trying to BM Mana he was asking a question because he thought that they were playing on the wrong version of that map. He waited from for a response from most likely a referee, and didn't get one, hence what he said.

He left Mana with the GG.

Also Tyler isn't "overrated" or "bad", he has been in a slump as of late as all the Liquid guys have been. He is also a player that refines his builds so much, that the fact that 1 FF can block a ramp versus 2 FF is game changing, as we saw in Game 2.

Try to analyze what happened instead of acting like a schoolyard punk.


Yes lol, VERY professional and rational behaviour by Tyler. What did he expect the referee to do? Answer like "oh yeah, we were wrong, let's replay the game" or rather "oh sorry, we stated a couple of weeks ago that we are using these maps, but for you we make an exception" ? :D

There isn't just one version of the map out there. NASL has made changes to the maps.
Enox
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1667 Posts
April 18 2011 18:18 GMT
#3098
On April 19 2011 03:14 oYsteR wrote:
What on earth is wrong with the music in NASL? How hard is it to just use the normal SC2 music? First nothing, then unrelated music (way worse than silence) and now they've got the wrong game? Jeez.

Don't get me wrong, SC1 music, esp the terran theme, is fantastic and incredibly evocative and atmospheric...but for SC1.

Anyway, excited to see Cloud play.

exactly! i love the sc1 music but somehow it doesnt fit at all here. why cant they just use the sc2 music
If you think it's too hard there are solutions other than asking for a nerf, getting better is the first that comes to mind.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
April 18 2011 18:19 GMT
#3099
On April 19 2011 03:17 bashalisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2011 03:15 Titorelli wrote:
On April 19 2011 03:07 LedFarmer wrote:
On April 19 2011 03:02 Titorelli wrote:
LOL what douchebag Tyler is.... Being f-ing overrated and bad and BMing on top of that cause he lost due to being bad.... +1 Tyler anti-fan


First off Tyler is in no way a "douchebag" and he wasn't trying to BM Mana he was asking a question because he thought that they were playing on the wrong version of that map. He waited from for a response from most likely a referee, and didn't get one, hence what he said.

He left Mana with the GG.

Also Tyler isn't "overrated" or "bad", he has been in a slump as of late as all the Liquid guys have been. He is also a player that refines his builds so much, that the fact that 1 FF can block a ramp versus 2 FF is game changing, as we saw in Game 2.

Try to analyze what happened instead of acting like a schoolyard punk.


Yes lol, VERY professional and rational behaviour by Tyler. What did he expect the referee to do? Answer like "oh yeah, we were wrong, let's replay the game" or rather "oh sorry, we stated a couple of weeks ago that we are using these maps, but for you we make an exception" ? :D

There isn't just one version of the map out there. NASL has made changes to the maps.


Actually it's more that NASL is, for some bizarre reason, using earlier versions of the maps. None of the changes originate with them; the maps seem to be the ones used in the earliest testing stages, before significant changes were made.
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
April 18 2011 18:20 GMT
#3100
Stream looks pretty good now, working pretty smooth @ 480P, not 100% smooth but surely watchable and the quality is ok.
If they could make it a bit smoother the stream is perfect atleast
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