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ejac
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1195 Posts
April 16 2011 21:31 GMT
#4441
On April 17 2011 06:28 OnlineHero wrote:
Incredably bad play by Morrow.. He had a 60 supply lead, wtf.

Stalkers 125-50, 2 supply
Roaches 75-25, 2 supply

Obviously zerg is going to be ahead in supply when their main units are almost 1/2 the cost yet the same supply.
esq>n
daytrippers
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden223 Posts
April 16 2011 21:31 GMT
#4442
that game was a replica of MC vs Idra.
LoliKuma
Profile Joined June 2010
United States237 Posts
April 16 2011 21:31 GMT
#4443
Quad commercials o_O
The End DOES Justifiy the Means
radu_c
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania226 Posts
April 16 2011 21:31 GMT
#4444
Another macro fest incoming.
DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
April 16 2011 21:31 GMT
#4445
On April 17 2011 06:31 m0ck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 06:29 Uhh Negative wrote:
On April 17 2011 06:27 Dawski wrote:
On April 17 2011 06:26 rapture wrote:
i think hasu wins now. zerg was way too passiv the last 10 minutes


wtf are you talking about, zerg was as aggressive as anyone could POSSIBLY get. im sick of comments like this, same comments as idra vs MC game. he did 3 pushes in a row in the same FF choke just for the sake of pushing on aggression. That just pisses me off

Lol are you serious? Hardly any useful aggression at all by zerg. Pushing up to the Protoss deathball is not agression. As zerg you have to take advantage of protoss immobility which MorroW did exactly zero. Really terrible play by MorroW.


There is no protoss immobility


you never played protoss.
the deathballl needs to stay in 1 clump to be effective and safe vs attacks, drops on 2 ecolines while pushing the front is such an annoying thing for protoss to handle
European Ranking: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=182293
littlejunior
Profile Joined April 2011
Brazil50 Posts
April 16 2011 21:31 GMT
#4446
On April 17 2011 06:31 partisan wrote:
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On April 17 2011 06:28 Nakas wrote:
Neither of these casters knows a damn thing about zerg.



Really? Day9 knows nothing about zerg, you heard it here first everyone. :-/


My eyes! OHhhh. It hhhurt!

Thank you Day[9], and thanks Teamliquid.net. for everything!
Butcherski
Profile Joined April 2010
Poland446 Posts
April 16 2011 21:31 GMT
#4447
On April 17 2011 06:30 LEEKsc wrote:
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On April 17 2011 06:29 Butcherski wrote:
On April 17 2011 06:28 Sylvr wrote:
Morrow didn't micro during battles... I think he just 1-Aed in.



true, morrow should'be blinked his roaches, cast some ffs and pull back those 9 range hydras and he would win


very constructive indeed sir, very constructive.

and yes, he pretty much stayed on lowtier units for too long and got punished for it


what im trying to say is there is no micro for zerg, anything other than attack move hurts your dps while the superior range and ffs punish you for every move you are trying to do
"Well Tasteless, i once met a three-toed sloth with good marauder control " - Artosis
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
April 16 2011 21:31 GMT
#4448
On April 17 2011 06:29 entropius wrote:
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On April 17 2011 06:28 GoDLy MD wrote:
On April 17 2011 06:27 Rhokdar wrote:
Painful to watch how much better a 200/200 protoss army is compared to Zerg


painful to watch zerg engage in a choke vs collosus and psi storm.

seriously stop whining about imba.


How do you want the zerg to force a (good) engagement somewhere else?

It's not like he had much choice. You're damned if you do and damned if you don't in zvp.

He brought his overlords with his army to try and persuade Hasu that he was going to drop. He should have actually have been using them to drop.
Nakas
Profile Joined May 2010
United States148 Posts
April 16 2011 21:32 GMT
#4449
No good zerg rushes broodlord, day9.
Parsistamon
Profile Joined July 2010
United States390 Posts
April 16 2011 21:32 GMT
#4450
anyone else getting a hotels.com loop?
Vimsey
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2235 Posts
April 16 2011 21:32 GMT
#4451
On April 17 2011 06:29 ZeraToss wrote:
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On April 17 2011 06:28 Beyonder wrote:
On April 17 2011 06:27 Dawski wrote:
On April 17 2011 06:26 rapture wrote:
i think hasu wins now. zerg was way too passiv the last 10 minutes


wtf are you talking about, zerg was as aggressive as anyone could POSSIBLY get. im sick of comments like this, same comments as idra vs MC game. he did 3 pushes in a row in the same FF choke just for the sake of pushing on aggression. That just pisses me off

Oh come on, as agressive as anyone can get? Watch the Mondragon vs. tod games.


lol fail, beyonder is absolutely right

Oh ive not seen them Mondragon v ToD was in what competition?
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
April 16 2011 21:32 GMT
#4452
On April 17 2011 06:30 Roggay wrote:
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On April 17 2011 06:28 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Oh a protoss beat a zerg... incoming 50+ pages of balance QQ....


Stop martyring, what is worse than people whining about balance is people whining about people whining about balance, even when no one did.

Which universe are you looking at?
Also, I don't think you know what martyring means.
frostalgia
Profile Joined March 2011
United States178 Posts
April 16 2011 21:32 GMT
#4453
he shouldve mixed more hydras in with roaches earlier, and used roaches the way theyre meant to be against stalks.. as a meat shield for hydras.
also in late game he shoulda just massed hydra/roach, woulda had a better shot than getting a few brood lords.
we are all but shadows in the void
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
April 16 2011 21:32 GMT
#4454
why did I get 3 commercials in a row? During a game?
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
Vathus
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada404 Posts
April 16 2011 21:32 GMT
#4455
Ughh morrows hive was so late and there was such a lack of harass >.<
kasumimi
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Greece460 Posts
April 16 2011 21:32 GMT
#4456
Hasu played really well tbh, I thought morrow had it when he was so ahead in the mid game but Hasu barely lived and slowly took the upper hand.

Btw why didn't morrow deny Hasu's 4th when he was +70 pop and ahead in everything?
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
April 16 2011 21:32 GMT
#4457
I love how people conveniently forget 2 DT's and a Zealot killing 20 drones....
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
April 16 2011 21:32 GMT
#4458
On April 17 2011 06:30 RolleMcKnolle wrote:
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On April 17 2011 06:29 Onos wrote:
On April 17 2011 06:26 Moonwrath wrote:
Attacking head on against Protoss deathball just doesn't work, like ever. Why do these zergs keep trying to slam their roach/hydra army against it? You have to abuse the fact that Toss needs to keep their army in a clump. Throw some nydus worms up, drop the main, SOMETHING.


He had 60 freaking extra supply. That's close to 33% more. Or if you consider about 70 drones - 50 probes, it's 130 army to 90 army. That's 44% more army. And you still massively lose. Everyone says - oh just don't let the P get to 200. Um, that shows that doesn't work. So now we go to - oh he teched to slowly.

Morrow just played bad. He did nothing all game long, and that is just wrong against P oO


No, what went wrong is that he attacked into a choke directly against the protoss ball, he should have gone for multiprong attack to exploit the fact that his army was superior in number (and win both front, or one and retreat the other).
HuHEN
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom514 Posts
April 16 2011 21:32 GMT
#4459
On April 17 2011 06:30 imPERSONater wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 06:27 Dawski wrote:
On April 17 2011 06:26 rapture wrote:
i think hasu wins now. zerg was way too passiv the last 10 minutes


wtf are you talking about, zerg was as aggressive as anyone could POSSIBLY get. im sick of comments like this, same comments as idra vs MC game. he did 3 pushes in a row in the same FF choke just for the sake of pushing on aggression. That just pisses me off


Dude, I'm a zerg but Morrow was ridiculously passive. No drops, nydus, ANYTHING to try and force an engagement away from the choke. He had overlords all over Hasu's base and did nothing. He should have gotten roaches in the main, attacked the front, w/e. Make him split the death ball up.



We should also note how much damage the DTs did, that was huge.
echO [W]
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1495 Posts
April 16 2011 21:32 GMT
#4460
I saw watched like 5 or 6 hotels.com commercials in a row anyone else?
"Or a school bus over a bunch of kids" - Tasteless --- “A man's errors are his portals of discovery.” - James Joyce
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