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Andamanen
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands915 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 17:32:04
April 12 2011 17:31 GMT
#5801
It's really tempting to throw your huge army into the fight, but it really doesn't seem to work against a protoss deathball.
MoreFaSho
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1427 Posts
April 12 2011 17:31 GMT
#5802
On April 13 2011 02:29 Spitmode wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 02:26 MYM.ClouD wrote:
idra outayed him left and right and still lost. sc2 is a fucking joke.


no he didnt. get real rofl

Okay, first of all, I'm pretty sure ClouD is trolling. And the only unit that is a fucking joke is the hydra, if you build more than 10 of them in a game, you lose. But.... There's a solution:
+ Show Spoiler +
Don't build hydras, they're terrible.
I always try to shield slam face, just to make sure it doesnt work
Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
April 12 2011 17:31 GMT
#5803
Idra wins against MC, but his mindset is that it is not possible, so he let MC back into the game, BG
Exley
Profile Joined April 2011
United States239 Posts
April 12 2011 17:31 GMT
#5804
MC didn't come back; he was in a great position for most of that game. Yes, IdrA nearly broke him, but MC held on and didn't lose colossi ----> forcing IdrA to make Corruptor -----> rest of the game is history.
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
April 12 2011 17:31 GMT
#5805
When they were on even bases, MC's 4th was gold so he was ahead

Idra never killed any of MC's buildings so he was never winning
Takuna
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany332 Posts
April 12 2011 17:31 GMT
#5806
Idra could have won that for sure if he engaged better imo
Theres no way stalkers can blink into the broodlords and survive long enough if the hydras guard them.
The spirits move me.
Macabre
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1262 Posts
April 12 2011 17:31 GMT
#5807
ZvP on Xel`Naga.Hmm GG MC 2-0 Good try IdrA
Those who know how to think need no teachers. Tasteless - I think I'll take my shirt off and let my muscles do the casting
soupchicken
Profile Joined October 2010
United States322 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 17:32:13
April 12 2011 17:31 GMT
#5808
Idra needed to keep up non-stop pressure after that first engagement.

Honestly the mistake was overmaking corruptors as usual. Though to be fair he scouted two robo. It's one of those terrible situations where you have no idea what the unit comp will be and if you don't have enough corruptors you lose. If you have too many you lose. With two robo, he can pump out colossi quick so you kindof have to guess.
ImHuko
Profile Joined December 2010
United States996 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 17:33:52
April 12 2011 17:31 GMT
#5809
MC said himself that he will never lose to a "zerg". He didn't even define a player, he said an entire race. Even MC knows its heavily favored for him even self admitted by MC. He even said I like the nerfs, because I want to win fairly in the July vs MC finals.
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
April 12 2011 17:31 GMT
#5810
On April 13 2011 02:30 zeru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 02:30 JoxxOr wrote:
On April 13 2011 02:28 Beyonder wrote:
On April 13 2011 02:26 MYM.ClouD wrote:
idra outayed him left and right and still lost. sc2 is a fucking joke.

So biased, Idra didnt really do much right in this game tbh -_-

He was 80 supply ahead in first fight.

He did things right, its just that after that he was a little bit too passive

Hi, roach supply.


Nobody ever remembers that Roaches are balanced in damage/hp/armor around being 1 supply.

A 200/200 Roach army will lose to a 150/200 Protoss or Terran army.
Funkatron
Profile Joined July 2010
United States725 Posts
April 12 2011 17:31 GMT
#5811
On April 13 2011 02:30 Kyuki wrote:
I was jumping in my chair when idra had the reiforcement roaches sitting at his own gold. HE WAS AT 185 supply vs 120 at that point... Had he just gone in again, he'd won. :<

Abit of a misscall, but still good game.

Totally agree. Idra was just a little too timid.
I also would have loved some harass of the 3rd.
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
April 12 2011 17:31 GMT
#5812
On April 13 2011 02:29 FinnGamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 02:28 Beyonder wrote:
On April 13 2011 02:26 MYM.ClouD wrote:
idra outayed him left and right and still lost. sc2 is a fucking joke.

So biased, Idra didnt really do much right in this game tbh -_-

he didn't attack/harras/drop ONE time when he was 40 food ahead....
Being 40 food ahead with roach/hydra is not ahead at all. Idra realistically lost that game to the phoenix harass. It set him back enough that he had no chance to deny the toss 3rd, ensuring a clear path to victory for MC, considering his general level of play.
JoeCrow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States167 Posts
April 12 2011 17:31 GMT
#5813
is this a bo5?
Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
April 12 2011 17:31 GMT
#5814

On April 13 2011 02:26 MYM.ClouD wrote:
idra outayed him left and right and still lost. sc2 is a fucking joke.

It's sad cause it's true
Mitchlew
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia428 Posts
April 12 2011 17:31 GMT
#5815
problem is that stalkers are so good against roaches


hahaha, cost effectiveness roaches OWN.
enemy2010
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1972 Posts
April 12 2011 17:31 GMT
#5816
On April 13 2011 02:30 RogerChillingworth wrote:
DeMuslim's pretty out of the loop to call broodlords an "i win" unit. Rofl.

He also said that Broodlords are good against Blink stalkers cause the broodlings make them stalkers stuck, so that they cannot blink away...

o.O
1on1 auf azze no he no flash no awp only holztor. | Ja, da meint der ich hätt' abgeschmatzt, aber dat is Quatsch, verstehste?
EvilSky
Profile Joined March 2006
Czech Republic548 Posts
April 12 2011 17:32 GMT
#5817
What stopped idra from taking his gold base high ground with the ground army to cover the broods while they sieged mcs gold? why did he send them alone and funnel his ground army through the passage???
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
April 12 2011 17:32 GMT
#5818
On April 13 2011 02:29 FinnGamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 02:28 Beyonder wrote:
On April 13 2011 02:26 MYM.ClouD wrote:
idra outayed him left and right and still lost. sc2 is a fucking joke.

So biased, Idra didnt really do much right in this game tbh -_-

he didn't attack/harras/drop ONE time when he was 40 food ahead....


He tried to attack but forcefields easily stopped him.
Harass with roach/hydra/corruptor?
Drop vs phoenixes and blink stalkers?
You obviously don't understand how this game is played.
Raiznhell
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada786 Posts
April 12 2011 17:32 GMT
#5819
GOD, IdrA fans are so damn ANGRY! like Jinro just lost to White-Ra 0-2 convincingly and us Terrans were like aw poor Jinro but GG White-Ra. IdrA loses 1 very close game that he had poor positioning with the Broodlords and "its a joke" or "fuck this game". It's kinda shameful.

I however LOVED MC's reaction to winning lolol.
Cake or Death?
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
April 12 2011 17:32 GMT
#5820
Imho Idra has sick macro, but his decisionmaking is somewhat lacking imho.
He went with his entire slow hydra army to chase blink stalkers and a warp prism up the ramp without creep, and he went in with brood lords first, and then came in with hydras when they were all dead..
The game is broken my ass.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
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