EPT[TSL] Ro16 Day 2 - Page 149
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Woony
Germany6657 Posts
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Sandro
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
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nucky
Canada43 Posts
I hope Boxer will do well in the next rounds. | ||
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kraut
374 Posts
On April 11 2011 05:35 AntiGrav1ty wrote: "Biggest upset in the TSL so far" just happened. Yes it did. such statements happens when u only watch protoss games and have no clue about tvt at all...like he always says. | ||
Chill
Calgary25993 Posts
On April 11 2011 05:40 p4NDemik wrote: How people can blame NaDa's loss on lag is beyond me, Kas is leaps and bounds better than him in TvT. Nada's banshee micro was great vs TLO @ Ro32. Nada lost a banshee to a turret in the GSL Teamleague. People just want an excuse. The reality is that latency may have been an issue, but Jinro already clarified that in a post. The bigger reality is that Kaz was significantly better today. | ||
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Logo2010
509 Posts
On April 11 2011 05:44 Woony wrote: Lag is not even an issue because Kas has high latency, too because Ukraine has shitty internet compared to SK with super fast internet. I don't know where to begin. | ||
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blackone
Germany1314 Posts
On April 11 2011 05:43 hugman wrote: Hmm, really? Naniwa's MLG performance was commanding. Unless he gets massively tilted I don't see him losing a Bo5 to someone who isn't spectacular. I like Goody, but I don't think he has what it takes. Really looking forward to the match though. Well if you look at pretty much all the previous TSL results, having played well in the past is not really good for you  | ||
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PieLieDie
Sweden172 Posts
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cuppatea
United Kingdom1401 Posts
On April 11 2011 05:33 Hot_Bid wrote: I think people are just so biased when it comes to this stuff. NOBODY blamed lag when Haypro lost to Kas. So many people blame lag when Nada loses to Kas. It's just in your head, what your expectations are. What was your refusal to acknowledge the very evident lag in the mvp vs Adelscott games if not pure pro-foreigner bias? I mean you were literally watching the best Terran in the world control his units like a Bronze league player and mocking anyone who suggested lag may be the reason (as opposed to the alternative, which is that he's absolutely terrible at SC2). | ||
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Gator
United States3432 Posts
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Belha
Italy2850 Posts
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Eury
Sweden1126 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On April 11 2011 05:43 GenoZStriker wrote: I hate to say this but it's not. The STOG crew hardly know who Kas is and don't follow the scene outside of GSL and major tournaments. Anyone who follows the scene outside of GSL knows he's the best Terran and TvTer in Europe. No surprise at all. NaDa's name should have no meaning in this match. yeah this idk why they said nada vs kas would be bigest upset, upset yes but not biggest. I would say MVP/Nestea games were bigger upsets ^^. | ||
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Titan999
Denmark67 Posts
People are supprised when they see Kas beating Nada, but if you follow the european turnaments you would have seen Goody, Sjow, Kas and Beastyqt duke it out time and time again. And among these guys even MVP and Marineking would get a run for their money. So you should not be suprised that Kas steamroled Nada 3-0, Kas is just that good. If you knew more about the European players, maybe you would not expect auto-win for the Koreans and then just maybe, we could stop the whining about lag. | ||
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Tracedragon
United States948 Posts
On April 11 2011 05:42 Derez wrote: Because pretty much every korean in the TSL is underperforming. We've all seen Nada, MC, MVP, Nestea play 15 times better in the GSL then in this TSL. I would love a situation where we could say that 'foreigners' are as good as koreans, but with the koreans playing like this it really doesn't mean all that much. I don't know what the cause of it is, but something is definately wrong on the korean side, either in terms of how much they actually care about winning or in terms of their playstyle being hampered by something. I was very much looking forward to this tournament but it's just not been living up to my expectations. This exactly sums up what I've been thinking. Most of the Korean progamers just don't seem to be doing so hot in TSL3. | ||
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AntiGrav1ty
Germany2310 Posts
How can you call Kas winning against Nada the biggest upset in the TSL... Right now, Kas is destroying every tournament he enters. | ||
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phisku
Belgium864 Posts
On April 11 2011 05:43 GenoZStriker wrote: I hate to say this but it's not. The STOG crew hardly know who Kas is and don't follow the scene outside of GSL and major tournaments. Anyone who follows the scene outside of GSL knows he's the best Terran and TvTer in Europe. No surprise at all. NaDa's name should have no meaning in this match. qft, absolutely right i dare say that kas is the best foreigner right now. | ||
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Arnfasta
United States183 Posts
On April 11 2011 05:43 Sickworld wrote: I give you that, but one would think that at this level of play and with so much money on the line, the players would take the time to get used to the servers. EU players didnt see to be affected by lag any slight bit. even if they had less lag than KOR players, it would have been noticeable if lag was throwing them off their game. as someone said before, the invitees dont seem to be taking this tournament quite as serious as the ones who had to try hard to qualify It's a fair point to say they should've played on the NA server, no excuse there. But I do think they MAY have though ( I certainly don't know for sure) that they would be fine if they practice diligently IN KOREA. So I think they did take this tournament seriously but didn't factor in the lag factor. Perhaps I'm mistaken but that would be thought. Oh sorry, I played on the NA server (only plat T_T) for 4 months in Korea while I was studying abroad so I have some sense of how bad it is/was. | ||
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
On April 11 2011 05:45 cuppatea wrote: What was your refusal to acknowledge the very evident lag in the mvp vs Adelscott games if not pure pro-foreigner bias? I mean you were literally watching the best Terran in the world control his units like a Bronze league player and mocking anyone who suggested lag may be the reason (as opposed to the alternative, which is that he's absolutely terrible at SC2). Because the best Terran in the world obviously didn't even bother to play on the NA server beforehand in order to prepare for his match. | ||
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